Pagans

[Dark_Lite]

Well, if you want to go that route, Christianity probably has the most holes in it's story than any other religion. But lets not get into that.

Most religions, including yours, can have "holes" found if you try hard enough.

 

[Merlin]

>In fact, almost all Christian holidays and beliefs come from the Nordic belief system because when the Romans started to spread the word of your god, they adapted to our celebrations. I.E. they plopped "Christmas" on Yule and so forth. Christmas trees and santa claus have their roots in Paganism, not Christianity.

Fortunately, Christianity is not based on beliefs about holidays, but in the King of kings.

>Hello. I am a proud Pagan

Good.
God prefers choice/free will.

>and I'm wondering what are your TRUE AND HONEST opinions on Paganism is.

I know my Lord.
I'm not interested in Peganism beyond curiosity

 

[talitha]

And what is your knowledge in Paganism? If any?

I know some things.... but I won't bore you with details which you would obviously also know.

Here's what I believe in more detail - probably some of this you have not heard before.

The Bible says that Jesus is the Lamb "Slain from the foundation of the World." You can't get much older than that. His sacrifice at a precisely selected time in history was God's plan from The Beginning.

Helel, aka Lucifer, aka Satan, etc., was cast out of Heaven along with 1/3 of the angelic host because they rebelled against God; they began to inhabit this planet.

This group of fallen angels knew something of the plan of God, and before humans were ever created, they began to lay in place signs and "evidences" to deceive us and lead us astray from the truth. This was the real beginning of the Paganistic and Shamanistic religions.

God made a place and a way for us to live on this planet, and He set us upon it intending to use us to destroy the works of His would-be rival, whom He will cast into the Lake of Fire along with his followers both angelic and human.

In the meantime God welcomes all who seek Him. Now that the Lamb has been slain in the natural realm, He has become the sole mediator between the one and only real God and all of mankind.

Paganistic and Shamanistic religions are not the only deceptive religions out there. They were originated by spirits; other religions were originated by mankind.

may the Lord Jesus bless you
tal

 

[BigToe]

I actually don't know much, so if you would like to tell me more about your beliefs, I would appreciate it. But then I also see no problem in our beliefs being different. I enjoy learning new things about various people.

 

[Adstar]

Well you ask what i think of paganisim, but are you also asking how i feel about pagans? There is a difference Yggdrasil, one that is often not precieved because of the emotional attachment pagans often have for paganisim. It is the same for many who hold to a faith.

paganism

I believe the Word of My God on paganism:

Romans 1
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible [attributes] are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man -- and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. 24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.


paganisim is the worship of the sun, of nature, of forces, of satan, the created rather than the Creator. It is a vain waste of time in relation to eternity (forever) becuase no matter what "power" real or imagnined that one recieves from worshiping the created eternity is in the control of the Creator. The Creator Has made His will clear though His Word. Worship of anything other than the Creator is an abomination to the Creator and all who die without rejecting rejecting worship of the created will have no part With God in eternity.

So i hate paganisim





Pagans

Well my feelings for pagans are not of hate but of compassion and the want for them to be with me in eternity surounded by the perfect love of our perfect Creator. I do not wish harm or suffering to pagans i wish eternal life and joy to pagans. It saddens me to read your words of pride. But you should come to the knowledge that the thing you loyal too hates you and the One you resist loves you and is seeking your eternal good. In the end Yggdrasil each one of us must decide whom we will believe. Take your time and seek earnestly for the truth Yggdrasil because your eternal destiny depends on the genuineness of your seeking.

I love pagans







All Praise The Ancient Of Days

 

[talitha]

well said, Adstar

 

[Yggdrasil]

Well you ask what i think of paganisim, but are you also asking how i feel about pagans? There is a difference Yggdrasil, one that is often not precieved because of the emotional attachment pagans often have for paganisim. It is the same for many who hold to a faith.

paganism

I believe the Word of My God on paganism:

Romans 1
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible [attributes] are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man -- and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. 24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.


paganisim is the worship of the sun, of nature, of forces, of satan, the created rather than the Creator. It is a vain waste of time in relation to eternity (forever) becuase no matter what "power" real or imagnined that one recieves from worshiping the created eternity is in the control of the Creator. The Creator Has made His will clear though His Word. Worship of anything other than the Creator is an abomination to the Creator and all who die without rejecting rejecting worship of the created will have no part With God in eternity.

So i hate paganisim





Pagans

Well my feelings for pagans are not of hate but of compassion and the want for them to be with me in eternity surounded by the perfect love of our perfect Creator. I do not wish harm or suffering to pagans i wish eternal life and joy to pagans. It saddens me to read your words of pride. But you should come to the knowledge that the thing you loyal too hates you and the One you resist loves you and is seeking your eternal good. In the end Yggdrasil each one of us must decide whom we will believe. Take your time and seek earnestly for the truth Yggdrasil because your eternal destiny depends on the genuineness of your seeking.

I love pagans







All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Well, there's one thing. Pagans do not believe in the Christain devil. He does not exist in our faith or world. That is one of the biggest misconceptions about Paganism. We DO NOT belive or worship the devil in anyway. And no, Satanism is not paganism.

 

[calidog]

Well, there's one thing. Pagans do not believe in the Christain devil. He does not exist in our faith or world. That is one of the biggest misconceptions about Paganism. We DO NOT belive or worship the devil in anyway. And no, Satanism is not paganism.

Belief in a real Devil will ultimately lead to belief in the true God.

 

[BigToe]

How does belief in a devil bring you to believe in a God?

 

[Yggdrasil]

Belief in a real Devil will ultimately lead to belief in the true God.

So what are you saying? That pagans do not know good if they do not believe in one true evil?

 

[calidog]

How does belief in a devil bring you to believe in a God?

If one believes that the bible story is a fairy tale, and it speaks about heaven and hell, and God and the devil; if one were to discover any one of these were indeed real, one would likely consider the reality of the others.

 

[Yggdrasil]

If one believes that the bible story is a fairy tale, and it speaks about heaven and hell, and God and the devil; if one were to discover any one of these were indeed real, one would likely consider the reality of the others.

Well, most of the OT are just moral stories made to teach a lesson, but didn;t really take place. Such as Noahs arc.

 

[calidog]

Well, most of the OT are just moral stories made to teach a lesson, but didn;t really take place. Such as Noahs arc.

Case in point.

 

[Yggdrasil]

Case in point.

Come on. Even my THEOLOGY professor has said time and again that most of the OT is a moral handbook meant to teach moral lessons and has little truth in it. I'm not trying to bash it, but you can't seriously believe stories like Noahs arc.

 

[BigToe]

Isn't it possible that if someone believes there is one of those factors, they might believe any given number of the religions out there that claim the same or related truths to what they discover to be real? I don't believe in God because I found the devil sitting on my doorstep one afternoon. Nor does my belief in God make me believe Noah's Ark actually happened to the degree it is told in the Bible.

 

[calidog]

Come on. Even my THEOLOGY professor has said time and again that most of the OT is a moral handbook meant to teach moral lessons and has little truth in it. I'm not trying to bash it, but you can't seriously believe stories like Noahs arc.

I agree that moral is shown throughout all of scripture (the "stories"). If anyone has come to faith in Christ, through the gospels, the bible was effective. The church (body of believers) are ripped apart on the other issues. I can almost picture us in heaven one day pointing fingers at each other saying "see, I told you so".(not really). God bless you brother

 

[calidog]

Isn't it possible that if someone believes there is one of those factors, they might believe any given number of the religions out there that claim the same or related truths to what they discover to be real? I don't believe in God because I found the devil sitting on my doorstep one afternoon. Nor does my belief in God make me believe Noah's Ark actually happened to the degree it is told in the Bible.

Yes, that would not be the best way to come to faith, although some have.(I believe Noah built an ark)

 

[Yggdrasil]

I agree that moral is shown throughout all of scripture (the "stories"). If anyone has come to faith in Christ, through the gospels, the bible was effective. The church (body of believers) are ripped apart on the other issues. I can almost picture us in heaven one day pointing fingers at each other saying "see, I told you so".(not really). God bless you brother

And may Odin give you guidence.

 

[notanordinarygirl]

Hello. I am a proud Pagan and I'm wondering what are your TRUE AND HONEST opinions on Paganism is.

That you believe in the same God I do, only you believe it's more than one and you have different ways of expressing your faith in Him (or to you, them). Then again, I pretty much believe that about any religion (except for the "plural God" part when the religion believes in only one God).

 

[talitha]

Well, there's one thing. Pagans do not believe in the Christain devil. He does not exist in our faith or world. That is one of the biggest misconceptions about Paganism. We DO NOT belive or worship the devil in anyway. And no, Satanism is not paganism.

Neither Adstar nor I implied in any way that Pagans believe in the "Christian devil" (wow, how oxymoronic can you get - Christian devil? lol). But according to what I believe(and I think he believes), the devil exists in the one and only version of actual reality that there is, whether you believe in him or not, and what many of us are saying is that he has concocted an elaborate and pretty successful (so far) plan to deceive as many people as possible to the point that they will not believe what is actually true but instead will choose to believe false things that do not yield life.

blessings in Christ
tal