One saved always saved (Eternal Security)

[sdowney717]

An attack on eternal life for the believer is of antichrist, so such ideas are set on fire by hell, it is a demonic teaching.

In John 5, Jesus speaking says

24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

If my salvation was dependent on me I would most miserably be unable to save myself. We come to Christ to get eternal life, but it's the power of God that draws us and we who are so called can not resist Him, His will is to make those He foreknew willing to come to Him. God's work is to re-make you to believe in the Son.

John 6:29
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”

No one is willing to come to Christ unless God creates them so by changing their heart, giving them the new heart, necessity requires us to be born of God in order to see and believe in Christ.

John 3
Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

Psalm 23:3
He restores my soul; He leads me in the paths of righteousness For His name’s sake.

John 5:40
But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.

John 6:35
And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.

John 6:37
All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.

John 6:38
For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.

John 6:44
No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:45
It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.

John 6:65
And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”

 

[jerry kelso]

Everlasting life, eternal life is something to which we are appointed. All those so appointed will then believe! So the appointment comes first, then the believing. Those who refuse to believe have not been appointed - chosen to become believers. And they judge their own selves as unworthy of everlasting life.

Acts 13
46 Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, “It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles. 47 For so the Lord has commanded us:

‘I have set you as a light to the Gentiles,
That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.’”

48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

Jesus saves to the utmost, which means He DOES save ALL His people from their sin since HE is eternally alive and He is the source of our life and He cannot deny Himself.

Hebrews 7:24-25New King James Version (NKJV)
24 But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.

sdowney717,
1. I understand your position which is Calvinism.

2. Actually it is one of the better arguments I have heard.
Chuck Missler teaches the same thing about Christ the intercessor, except he said the reason for Christ making intercession for the believers was a type of Moses who interceded for Israel and God forgave them even though he still killed them because of their sin. Hebrews is about the better promises of the NC Hebrews 8:6-7.
Also, he based it on John 17:2;12.
about keeping all the disciples in his name except Judas that the scripture might be fulfilled.

3. If I was going to be a Calvinist I would go all the way to sinless perfection doctrine based on 1 John 3:9 because God hates sin 1 John 3:15 and he saves us from sin Romans 5:8.

4. 1 Corinthians 3:1-15 is about being judged for Christian works of how we built on the foundation of the church.
Vs 15: If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
This is an inference to believers who change masters Roman’s 6:16; whoever one yields to is their master.
No one can serve two masters at one time Matthew 6:24.
It is also a contrast to 1 Corinthians 3:16-17: Know ye not that ye are the temple of God and that the Spirit Of God dwelleth in you? Vs 17: If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
Now if you use Moses and some of those Jews at Korah example then this would fit your narrative but it is out of sync with vs 15.

5. Hebrews 7:25: Wherefore he is able to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
He is able is different than he will which brings up a condition.
God will not move without a man interceding to God because of freewill choice.
1 Corinthians 10:1-11 tells us that Israel who was baptized by the cloud and sea and drank of the rock who was Christ and yet sinned and was destroyed because of sin is our example to not be like vs. 12: Wherefore let him thinketh he standeth lest he fall.
There again if you equate it with Moses and Israel and Christ the intercession then you would be correct.
However, vs. 13 seems to be more in line with Hebrews 7:25 he is able which brings a condition.
Vs. 13: There hath no temptation taken you but such as common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that he are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape that ye may be able to bear it.
God has given us every tool to overcome but we must give faith legs to walk by cooperating with God James 2:26 and without faith it is impossible to please God Hebrews 11:6; But without faith it is impossible to please him; for he that come th to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarded of them that diligently seek him.

6. Moses interceded for Israel Exodus 32:9-14; Deuteronomy 9-20 and if he had not God would have destroyed them because of their sin. Later, God did destroy the ones who did not believe Jude 1:5: I will therefore put you in remembrance though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward that destroyed them that believe not.
Aaron and all sinners regained sinned and regained God’s favor and were blessed spiritually and physically Exodus 29:43; 44; 31:13; Leviticus 11:44, 45; 20:8; 15, 23; 22:9; Exodus 15:26; 33:12-17.
Moses testified that they were begotten of God Deuteronomy 32:18 and their names written in Heaven Exodus 32:32,33.
When they sinned God said, Whosoever hath sinned against me, Him will I blot out of my book Exodus 32:33.
Verse 32: Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin and if not, blot me out of my book which thou hast written.
Verse 33; And the Lord said to Moses, whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
A relationship takes two to cooperate of freewill choice on both parties.
There is no problem with God but with man.
Romans 8:35 Paul asks the question Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation or distress or persecution or famine or nakedness or peril or sword? These things don’t affect God's power but man’s cooperation and free will choice is another story.
Paul had a made up mind because he cooperated with God, not because God was going to force him or that his grace was irresistible in every case otherwise we would be sinless and overcome in every situation.
There is no reason to sin to learn a lesson. God hates sin and saved us from sin. But because we know we can sin we need Christ intercession Hebrews 4:15-16 touches with the feelings of our infirmities and us come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace in time of need.
Paul had infirmities in his life that didn’t deal with sinning unless you believe 2 Corinthians 11:29 is saying that about being offended and he burns not?
2 Corinthians 11:30 says; If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities.
He was given a messenger of Satan to buffet him so he wouldn’t swell up with pride of his revelations. His trials was his thorn in the flesh 2 Corinthians 12:7-11. He not only was a fool in glorying vs. 11 and gloried only in the cross Galatians 6:14.
Paul also mortified his members in his body so he wouldn’t be a castaway 1 Corinthians 9:27.
So Paul was cooperating with God. by free will choice to trust God by faith and allow God to give him the power to be able to overcome Romans 8:37, Nay, in all these things are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
Christ is the source of our power but we must put legs to faith which is cooperating with him James 2:26.
The Old covenant shows no eternal security without man’s cooperation in Moses day Jude 1:5
and Ezekiel 18 shows and James 5:19-20 which was talking to Christian backsliders for the sinner has nothing to backslide from as they are already in sin.
Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth and one convert him. Let him know that he which converterth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from a multitude of sins. I have to take a break but I’ll come back to address your scriptures. Jerry kelso

 

[jerry kelso]

Everlasting life, eternal life is something to which we are appointed. All those so appointed will then believe! So the appointment comes first, then the believing. Those who refuse to believe have not been appointed - chosen to become believers. And they judge their own selves as unworthy of everlasting life.

Acts 13
46 Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, “It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles. 47 For so the Lord has commanded us:

‘I have set you as a light to the Gentiles,
That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.’”

48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

Jesus saves to the utmost, which means He DOES save ALL His people from their sin since HE is eternally alive and He is the source of our life and He cannot deny Himself.

Hebrews 7:24-25New King James Version (NKJV)
24 But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.

sdowney717,

Nobody was predestined to go to hell 1 Timothy 2:4-5. The wicked go to hell because of their wickedness Revelation 20:15-20; 21:8.
In Ephesians 1:5, what is predestined was the plan of God to save man from sin not the personal choice of specific people of God choosing whom he wants and diss others.

2. Romans 8:28 the predestination of the conforming to be conformed to God’s image has to be understood of the predestined plan of redemption Ephesians 1:5.
God foreknew the plan of redemption of people being saved if they believe of their own free will choice Joshua 24:15; choose you this day whom you will serve.
It is because of the redemptive plan that God predestined us to be conformed to God’s image. This sounds like double talk and contradiction but it is not.
Reformed theology of Calvinism can’t be right because God would be a respect of persons to choose some and not others. This is why Calvin didn’t believe in evangelism, because you were either chosen or not and would eventually come to God.
It is true that people in Romans 8 are Christians that love God who are the called according to his purpose.
Roman’s 9:11 says the purpose of God according to election not of works.
This election is the plan of redemption not the free will choice of certain people and not others.

3. The reason that Romans 8:28 has to be understood in the light of the predestination of the redemptive plan which was predestined before the foundation of the world Ephesians 1:4 is because God demands obedient faith cooperation James 2:26 out of free will choice Joshua 24:15.
But it is not merely because of freewill choice because freewill Calvinists believe you can have free will choice and still be predestined to be conformed to his image.
I would agree, except for the fact of the examples of believers that show they believed and sinned and backslid and went into apostasy which I showed in the last post in the case of Moses day Exodus 32-33; Jude 1:5 and Ezekiel’s day Ezekiel 18 and the backslidden Christian in James 5:19-20.
There are more and many warnings as well. Ephesians 5:1-7.
All the scriptures have to be reconciled and cannot contradict each other.
I am sorry but I have to take another break. Jerry Kelso

 

[lismore]

These are all verses stating that you CAN lose your salvation-

I believe that it's not your salvation, it's God salvation given as a free gift.

 

[bbbbbbb]

I believe that it's not your salvation, it's God salvation given as a free gift.

Yes, having that perspective completely shifts the argument away from what I need to do to earn or keep my salvation to what has Jesus Christ done in giving me His gift of salvation.

 

[jerry kelso]

Everlasting life, eternal life is something to which we are appointed. All those so appointed will then believe! So the appointment comes first, then the believing. Those who refuse to believe have not been appointed - chosen to become believers. And they judge their own selves as unworthy of everlasting life.

Acts 13
46 Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, “It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles. 47 For so the Lord has commanded us:

‘I have set you as a light to the Gentiles,
That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.’”

48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

Jesus saves to the utmost, which means He DOES save ALL His people from their sin since HE is eternally alive and He is the source of our life and He cannot deny Himself.

Hebrews 7:24-25New King James Version (NKJV)
24 But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.

sdowney717,

1. Acts 13:45 Paul and Barbara’s were speaking to the Jews that were mad at him going to the Gentiles.
It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you but seeing you put it from you and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
The Jews made the wrong choice and judge themselves unworthy of eternal life. There is nothing about being appointed in that verse like picking and choosing which is Calvinistic in nature.

2. Vs. 47; the Jews were to be a light to the Gentiles for they were given the oracles of God Romans 3:2.
Some use this being a light to the Gentiles was the KoH reign on earth being offered to Israel again but this doesn’t agree with Acts 1:6-7. It was not for them to know and only the Father knew.
The real reason was it took 7-10 years after the Day of Pentecost before the mystery of the church was manifested when Peter had the vision of the clean and unclean Acts 10; Ephesians 2:14-15:3:3-6. It was ratified at the cross Ephesians 2:14-15 but manifested in Acts 10 with the vision of the clean and unclean shows gradual revelation.

3. Jesus saves to the utmost and he is the source of life.
I have already explained about Hebrews 7:24:25 because of man’s freewill choice of cooperation.
You can’t reconcile all the scriptures together and prove UES. Jerry Kelso

 

[bbbbbbb]

sdowney717,

1. Acts 13:45 Paul and Barbara’s were speaking to the Jews that were mad at him going to the Gentiles.
It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you but seeing you put it from you and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
The Jews made the wrong choice and judge themselves unworthy of eternal life. There is nothing about being appointed in that verse like picking and choosing which is Calvinistic in nature.

2. Vs. 47; the Jews were to be a light to the Gentiles for they were given the oracles of God Romans 3:2.
Some use this being a light to the Gentiles was the KoH reign on earth being offered to Israel again but this doesn’t agree with Acts 1:6-7. It was not for them to know and only the Father knew.
The real reason was it took 7-10 years after the Day of Pentecost before the mystery of the church was manifested when Peter had the vision of the clean and unclean Acts 10; Ephesians 2:14-15:3:3-6. It was ratified at the cross Ephesians 2:14-15 but manifested in Acts 10 with the vision of the clean and unclean shows gradual revelation.

3. Jesus saves to the utmost and he is the source of life.
I have already explained about Hebrews 7:24:25 because of man’s freewill choice of cooperation.
You can’t reconcile all the scriptures together and prove UES. Jerry Kelso

I always find "gradual revelation" to be a curious theological construct. Has, therefore, "revelation" ended and, if so, when? If not, which forms of "revelation" are valid?

 

[jerry kelso]

I always find "gradual revelation" to be a curious theological construct. Has, therefore, "revelation" ended and, if so, when? If not, which forms of "revelation" are valid?

bbbbbb,

1. Revelation of doctrinal issues have been revealed.
This comes down to understanding immediate contexts, sometimes a book context to understand the big picture and taking all the scriptures across the board and have to be reconciled together in harmony.

2. Contexts in the Old and New Covenants and before the law have different contexts at times on the same subject.
For example, moral law was before and after the law of Moses.
Before the law there was no written law for the murder when Cain killed Abel. It was still wrong and God worked through their conscience and people would want to kill him and that is why Cain asked God for protection. Read Genesis 4:1-15.

3. The written law was only to Israel and had a specific program of blessings and cursing.
If they committed adultery they could be physically stoned Leviticus 20:10; John 8:3-11.
This is not true for the church of Jews and Gentiles under the NC and we are not to be subdued by the law 1 Timothy 1:9-10.
We do because of who we are in Christ and the power of the finished work of Christ Read the book of Hebrews and the better promises of the NC Hebrews 8:6-7.

4. Revelation can be given through personal experiences etc. but they all have to line up with the word of God Isaiah 28:10; Precept upon precept line upon line. Jerry Kelso

 

[bbbbbbb]

bbbbbb,

1. Revelation of doctrinal issues have been revealed.
This comes down to understanding immediate contexts, sometimes a book context to understand the big picture and taking all the scriptures across the board and have to be reconciled together in harmony.

2. Contexts in the Old and New Covenants and before the law have different contexts at times on the same subject.
For example, moral law was before and after the law of Moses.
Before the law there was no written law for the murder when Cain killed Abel. It was still wrong and God worked through their conscience and people would want to kill him and that is why Cain asked God for protection. Read Genesis 4:1-15.

3. The written law was only to Israel and had a specific program of blessings and cursing.
If they committed adultery they could be physically stoned Leviticus 20:10; John 8:3-11.
This is not true for the church of Jews and Gentiles under the NC and we are not to be subdued by the law 1 Timothy 1:9-10.
We do because of who we are in Christ and the power of the finished work of Christ Read the book of Hebrews and the better promises of the NC Hebrews 8:6-7.

4. Revelation can be given through personal experiences etc. but they all have to line up with the word of God Isaiah 28:10; Precept upon precept line upon line. Jerry Kelso

Hi Jerry,


Precisely where is the "moral law" spelled out for us in scripture?

 

[SBC]

Post # 462
Sdowney717

A Non-Calvinist - telling another Non-Calvinist their beliefs are based on Calvinism ~ funny!

A Non-Calvinist attempting to teach tenants of Calvinism ~
Belief in permanent Saving
And
Belief in Sinnless Perfection of a human

Funny how some people make outrageous claims for others, AS IF, that justifies their own rejection of Gods own Word.

S Downey ~ enjoyed your post, but found the response to it without merit.

God Bless,
SBC

 

[jerry kelso]

Hi Jerry,


Precisely where is the "moral law" spelled out for us in scripture?

bbbbbb,

1. Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel Genesis, the 1st 4 chapters.
9 out of the 10 Commandments
were written moral law Exodus 20.
Jesus taught them in the Sermon on the Mount Matthew 5.
1 Timothy 1:9-11.
God is the moral governor of the universe. He created earth and man still has moral laws despite much degradation today. Got to go and work. Jerry Kelso

 

[bbbbbbb]

bbbbbb,

1. Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel Genesis, the 1st 4 chapters.
9 out of the 10 Commandments
were written moral law Exodus 20.
Jesus taught them in the Sermon on the Mount Matthew 5.
1 Timothy 1:9-11.
God is the moral governor of the universe. He created earth and man still has moral laws despite much degradation today. Got to go and work. Jerry Kelso

None of those texts distinguish these commandments as being the "moral law". Search as you might, you will not find the term "moral law" used anywhere in scripture. The Law is one Law, not several from which some are applicable and others are not.

 

[jerry kelso]

None of those texts distinguish these commandments as being the "moral law". Search as you might, you will not find the term "moral law" used anywhere in scripture. The Law is one Law, not several from which some are applicable and others are not.

bbbbbb,

1. I expected that to be your response which is incorrect.

2. The term Moral law doesn’t have to be their because it is plain in the scriptures I gave which you disagreed with but didn’t prove wrong.

3. If you think there is one law then you don’t understand gradual revelation and you didn’t debunk it either and you don’t understand the eternal plan of God.

4. I have to go but you are welcome to explain your side and definition of one law. Got to go. Jerry Kelso

 

[bbbbbbb]

bbbbbb,

1. I expected that to be your response which is incorrect.

2. The term Moral law doesn’t have to be their because it is plain in the scriptures I gave which you disagreed with but didn’t prove wrong.

3. If you think there is one law then you don’t understand gradual revelation and you didn’t debunk it either and you don’t understand the eternal plan of God.

4. I have to go but you are welcome to explain your side and definition of one law. Got to go. Jerry Kelso

Hi Jerry,

I will ask you some questions about the "Moral Law". These are based on the fact that there has been a wide diversity of opinions among theologians who do teach that there is a division in God's commandments along those lines.

1. Is the fourth commandment (the Sabbath) moral or not?
2. If the fourth commandment is moral, are all of the Sabbath commandments part of the moral law.
3. If not, why are some moral and some not?

 

[jerry kelso]

Hi Jerry,

I will ask you some questions about the "Moral Law". These are based on the fact that there has been a wide diversity of opinions among theologians who do teach that there is a division in God's commandments along those lines.

1. Is the fourth commandment (the Sabbath) moral or not?
2. If the fourth commandment is moral, are all of the Sabbath commandments part of the moral law.
3. If not, why are some moral and some not?

bbbbbb,

1. The sabbath is not moral. It is ceremonial
2. The other nine are moral:

a) Thou shalt have no other Gods before me
b) Thou shalt not make any graven image
c) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain
d) Honor thy father and thy mother
e) Thou shalt not kill
f) Thou shalt not commit adultery
g) Thou shalt not steal
h) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
i) Thou shalt not covet

3. Before I address your last question, I will ask you a couple questions since you think and say there is only one law; what is your definition of one law and how do you prove that the Old Covenant has not been abolished? Jerry Kelso

 

[bbbbbbb]

bbbbbb,

1. The sabbath is not moral. It is ceremonial
2. The other nine are moral:

a) Thou shalt have no other Gods before me
b) Thou shalt not make any graven image
c) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain
d) Honor thy father and thy mother
e) Thou shalt not kill
f) Thou shalt not commit adultery
g) Thou shalt not steal
h) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
i) Thou shalt not covet

3. Before I address your last question, I will ask you a couple questions since you think and say there is only one law; what is your definition of one law and how do you prove that the Old Covenant has not been abolished? Jerry Kelso

Thanks. Precisely why do you think the Sabbath is not a moral commandment when many fine theologians have thought the opposite?

I do not believe at all that any of the Law has been abolished. It was fulfilled entirely by Jesus Christ, who did not come to abolish, but to fulfill the Law (note that He Himself did not divide the Law in any way, shape, or form). The Law serves two purposes - as the tutor to lead the believer to the glorious liberty which comes through faith in Jesus Christ (Galatians 2) and as the means of judgement of unbelievers, who will be judged according to their works (Revelation 20).

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Thanks. Precisely why do you think the Sabbath is not a moral commandment when many fine theologians have thought the opposite?

I do not believe at all that any of the Law has been abolished. It was fulfilled entirely by Jesus Christ, who did not come to abolish, but to fulfill the Law (note that He Himself did not divide the Law in any way, shape, or form). The Law serves two purposes - as the tutor to lead the believer to the glorious liberty which comes through faith in Jesus Christ (Galatians 2) and as the means of judgement of unbelievers, who will be judged according to their works (Revelation 20).

A moral command deals with anything that we know instinctively to be right or wrong without a specific command telling us that this is so. The Scriptures say,

“For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law,” (Romans 2:14).

The dictionary says,

“a general rule of right living; especially : such a rule or group of rules conceived as universal and unchanging and as having the sanction of God's will, of conscience, of man's moral nature, or of natural justice as revealed to human reason.”

Source:
Definition of MORAL LAW

 

[bbbbbbb]

A moral command deals with anything that we know instinctively to be right or wrong without a specific command telling us that this is so. The Scriptures say,

“For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law,” (Romans 2:14).

The dictionary says,

“a general rule of right living; especially : such a rule or group of rules conceived as universal and unchanging and as having the sanction of God's will, of conscience, of man's moral nature, or of natural justice as revealed to human reason.”

Source:
Definition of MORAL LAW

Interestingly, most cultures rest on one day out of seven. They seem to know instinctively that it is right. By your definition that would make the sabbath a moral law.

However, that begs the point that the Law is one Law and not several. What law did God promise to write on the hearts of His people, according to Jeremiah 31:33, Ezekiel 11:19, Ezekiel 36:26, Hebrews 8:10, and Hebrews 10:16?

 

[Ron Gurley]

Can True born again BELIEVERS lose their spiritual POSITION in Christ?

Can a Christian Lose His Salvation?

Willful Sin after Salvation and Eternal Security

OP: "One saved always saved (Eternal Security)"

 

[jerry kelso]

Thanks. Precisely why do you think the Sabbath is not a moral commandment when many fine theologians have thought the opposite?

I do not believe at all that any of the Law has been abolished. It was fulfilled entirely by Jesus Christ, who did not come to abolish, but to fulfill the Law (note that He Himself did not divide the Law in any way, shape, or form). The Law serves two purposes - as the tutor to lead the believer to the glorious liberty which comes through faith in Jesus Christ (Galatians 2) and as the means of judgement of unbelievers, who will be judged according to their works (Revelation 20).

bbbbbb,

1. Hermeneutics. Proper exegesis is necessary to learn the truth. Of course this is basic and basis for all theologians.

2. The Law Of Moses was abolished 2 Corinthians 3:13-16.
Israel had to do 613 Commandments and a 1000 or more other statutes and commandments.
There were specific penalties if certain commandments were not done like for committing adultery was death by stoning Leviticus 20:10; John 8:1-11.
I am sure you don’t keep all those laws and you couldn’t if you wanted to and even the Jews can’t because they have no temple to sacrifice the blood of bulls and goats.
Christ came to fulfill the law is true Matthew 5:17-18
He had to fulfill what was said to him as Messiah and he did at the cross.

3. Galatians 4 not 3:24; Wherefore the law was as our schoolmaster to bring us into Christ that we might be justified by faith.
This is in the past tense which verse 23 bears out.
But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
The faith which should afterwards be revealed was speaking of the New Covenant which is different than the Old Covenant Hebrews 8:6-7.

4. Revelation 21:8 is New Covenant and the Old Covenant was abolished 1 Corinthians 3:13-16, Hebrews 8:6-7.
Jerry Kelso