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Once Saved Always Saved: True, False, or Misrepresented?

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Jesus told me to give a word, and I do as told. Backing up the word that I was told to give with the written Word of God.

Yet most people will do is voice his or her opinion telling me I am wrong. Most ignore the written word that tells them that their opinion is wrong.

Only a few seem to want to even see how being sinless is possible.


I didn't say I don't believe your statement. It's just not an accurate 'whole' view of yourself.

What is also somewhat strange is that even though you claim to be sinless, you also claim that given the slightest sin, off to the fire you may go.

I've found that to be a consistent belief, that combo you hold. You are sinless and one sin and yer done.


It is a shame people can’t see that God wants his Children to be obedient. I feel so sorry for those who have been convinced that he or she need not be concerned about being spotless.
Depends on what one is holding up for measures.

The warriors of Israel were obedient to God when murdering children of their enemies. You mean that obedient?

I think Paul said it well in the following verse.

(Ephesians 2-2) “ As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient."


It's also odd you see that in RED and you don't see that 'spirit' as something different than the person upon whom that spirit resides. But that's pretty typical.


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Just for fun and flavor.

What are we 'saved from?:


[FONT=&quot]-enemies (Luke 1:71- 74)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-Gentiles (Acts 26:17)[/FONT]
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-money (Luke 19:8-10)[/FONT]
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-sinking (Mat 8:24-25,Mat 14:30)[/FONT]
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-earthly trials (2 Pet 2:9)[/FONT]
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-Egyptians (Jude 1:5)[/FONT]
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-war (Luke 1:79)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]-Death (Mark 15:30-31,Mark 3:4,Luke 6:9,Luke 23:35-39,John 12:27,Acts 27:43; 2 Tim 1:8-10,Heb 5:7; James 5:15,James 5:20). Many of the references to being [/FONT][FONT=&quot]saved[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]from[/FONT][FONT=&quot] death seem to refer to a kind of spiritual death
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]-sickness (Luke 7:50,Luke 13:16,John 3:16)
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]-loosing one’s life to save it, in effect saved from ourselves (Mark 8:34-38,Luke 9:23-25)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]-sins (Mat 1:21,Luke 1:77,John 1:29,John 8:33-36,Acts 5:31,Acts 13:36-39,Acts 26:18; 1 Pet 2:21-25)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-slavery to evil behaviour and passions (Tit 3:3-5)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-slavery to sin (Rom 6:16-23,Rom 7:21-25, 8:1-4, 1 Tim 1:15)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-slavery to futility and bondage to decay
(Rom 8:19-21)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-slavery to the mastery of darkness (Col 1:13-14)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-captivity to the present evil age (Gal 1:3-4)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-slavery to the elemental spirits of the universe (Gal 4:3-6,Gal 4:31-5:1)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-impiety and worldly passions (Tit 2:11-14)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-a corrupt generation (Acts 2:40)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-the defilements of this world (2 Pet 2:20)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-a pointless life following the ruling powers of evil (Eph 2:1-5)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-futile ways of living (1 Pet 1:18-19, 1Pet 2:1-2?).[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-the devil (my personal favorite of course) (Mat 6:13,Luke 13:16,Acts 26:18; Heb 2:14-15; Rev 12:10; 2 Tim 4:18)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-our fleshly bodies (Phil 3:20-21)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-going astray (1 Pet 2:21-25)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
-not being in the Kingdom of God (Mat 19:23-26)[/FONT]


Ah, refreshed this morning just reading through the list again.

Yeah, once saved always saved on every count above.

Sometimes we view the subject as only a matter of heaven's surety.

enjoy!

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The following are just a few of the verses that OSAS believers need to ignore to continue to follow his or her false belief.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-19) “You know perfectly well that people who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God: people of immoral lives, idolaters, adulterers, catamites, sodomites, thieves, usurers, drunkards, slanders and swindlers will never inherit the kingdom of God.”

(Romans 6:11) “In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus”

(Galatians 5:16)“Let me put it like this if you are guided by the Spirit you will be in no danger of yielding to self-indulgence....”.

(1 Corinthians 5:11) “What I wrote was that you should not associate with a brother Christian who is leading an immoral life, or is a usurer, or idolatrous, or a slander, or a drunkard, or is dishonest; you should not even eat a meal with people like that.”

(Romans 6: 1-2) “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?

(1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people?”


(Ephesians 2-2) “ As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.”


(John 14:23) “Jesus replied: Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

New American Bible
(1 John 3-10) “Everyone who has this hope based on him makes himself pure, as he is pure. Everyone who commits sin commits lawlessness, for sin is lawlessness. You know that he was revealed to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who remains in him sins; no one who sins has seen him or known him. Children, let no one deceive you. The person who acts in righteousness is righteous, just as he is righteous. Whoever sins belongs to the devil, because the devil has sinned from the beginning. Indeed, the Son of God was revealed to destroy the works of the devil. No one who is begotten by God commits sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot sin because he is begotten by God. In this way, the children of God and the children of the devil are made plain; no one who fails to act in righteousness belongs to God, nor anyone who does not love his brother.”

(1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work”

(1 John 3:4-6) “Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.”

(1 John 3:9) “No one, who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.”

(1 John 5:17) “Every kind of wrongdoing is sin, but not all sin is deadly.”


(1 John 3:4-6) “Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.”

(1 John 3:9) “No one, who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.”

Jerusalem Bible

(Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”
 
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The following are just a few of the verses that OSAS believers need to ignore to continue to follow his or her false belief.

It might be fair to say that believers who think they might not be saved...
might not be saved right now as they speak.

They 'could' technically be unbelievers.

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It might be fair to say that believers who think they might not be saved...
might not be saved right now as they speak.

They 'could' technically be unbelievers.

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Can you show me using the written Word of God where it tells one what saved means? Does the Word of God ever say saved means one will enter the kingdom of God?

Paul tells us that a sinner will never enter the kingdom of God.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-19) “You know perfectly well that people who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God: people of immoral lives, idolaters, adulterers, catamites, sodomites, thieves, usurers, drunkards, slanders and swindlers will never inherit the kingdom of God.”


Jesus told us only those who show God they love him by living the Word of God will be in the kingdom of God. By the way you should know where God’s home is that is the kingdom of God.

(John 14:23) “Jesus replied: Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

 
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Can you show me using the written Word of God where it tells one what saved means?


I just posted several observations about it. Did you miss it?

Does the Word of God ever say saved means one will enter the kingdom of God?


Luke 17:21

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.


Paul tells us that a sinner will never enter the kingdom of God.
I totally agree. Paul also said he was the chief of sinners post salvation.

Jesus told us only those who show God they love him by living the Word of God will be in the kingdom of God. By the way you should know where God’s home is that is the kingdom of God.


What I said in the last post IS that those who claim they might not be saved might not actually be saved right now as they speak and could technically be speaking as an unsaved unbeliever.


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Did you give the wrong verse reference, or are you telling me that my theology is so flawed that I'll have to rely on my fruitful uterus for salvation? ^_^

Your being ridiculous. You are so trying to prove your point that you feel like you have to say a vile thing like that. You haven't even used one scripture to prove what you say is truth. But the way you have been speaking, is clear that you merely have an interpretation, and not any truth.
 
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The following are just a few of the verses that OSAS believers need to ignore to continue to follow his or her false belief.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-19) “You know perfectly well that people who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God: people of immoral lives, idolaters, adulterers, catamites, sodomites, thieves, usurers, drunkards, slanders and swindlers will never inherit the kingdom of God.”

(Romans 6:11) “In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus”

(Galatians 5:16)“Let me put it like this if you are guided by the Spirit you will be in no danger of yielding to self-indulgence....”.

(1 Corinthians 5:11) “What I wrote was that you should not associate with a brother Christian who is leading an immoral life, or is a usurer, or idolatrous, or a slander, or a drunkard, or is dishonest; you should not even eat a meal with people like that.”

(Romans 6: 1-2) “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?

(1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people?”


(Ephesians 2-2) “ As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.”


(John 14:23) “Jesus replied: Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

New American Bible
(1 John 3-10) “Everyone who has this hope based on him makes himself pure, as he is pure. Everyone who commits sin commits lawlessness, for sin is lawlessness. You know that he was revealed to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who remains in him sins; no one who sins has seen him or known him. Children, let no one deceive you. The person who acts in righteousness is righteous, just as he is righteous. Whoever sins belongs to the devil, because the devil has sinned from the beginning. Indeed, the Son of God was revealed to destroy the works of the devil. No one who is begotten by God commits sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot sin because he is begotten by God. In this way, the children of God and the children of the devil are made plain; no one who fails to act in righteousness belongs to God, nor anyone who does not love his brother.”

(1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work”

(1 John 3:4-6) “Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.”

(1 John 3:9) “No one, who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.”

(1 John 5:17) “Every kind of wrongdoing is sin, but not all sin is deadly.”


(1 John 3:4-6) “Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.”

(1 John 3:9) “No one, who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.”

Jerusalem Bible

(Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”

Scripture says to aim for perfection. Did Christ ever call Himself perfect? Did Paul, or Peter, or any of the apostles ever call themselves perfect? No, they did not. Paul said that sin was living in Him, and everything that He did, sin was right there with Him. There was no point in Christ saying that if we follow Him, we must deny ourselves daily, if we didn't always have sin, and flesh to deal with. Satan will be put down in the end, but now, scripture says that your adversary the devil, goes about seeking anyone whom he may devour.

Hebrews 12:2
Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

He perfects our faith. It doesn't say that He perfects the old man, He perfects the new man, living in us, which is the Spirit. As we sow to the Spirit, and put to death daily, that old man, which is always there, we are being perfected in our faith, not in our flesh, but the Spirit. The flesh, is waging war against the Spirit, and we must sow to the Spirit, rather than the flesh. We can be made perfect, but only in the Spirit, and that in no way means that at times we do not stumble, because we all do, since the flesh is always there, right along the Spirit, and we must choose to put to death the sinful nature. This is the only way, all of the scriptures go together, not some, without the others.

James 3:2
2 We all stumble in many ways. If anyone is never at fault in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to keep his whole body in check.
 
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Scripture says to aim for perfection. Did Christ ever call Himself perfect? Did Paul, or Peter, or any of the apostles ever call themselves perfect? No, they did not. Paul said that sin was living in Him, and everything that He did, sin was right there with Him. There was no point in Christ saying that if we follow Him, we must deny ourselves daily, if we didn't always have sin, and flesh to deal with. Satan will be put down in the end, but now, scripture says that your adversary the devil, goes about seeking anyone whom he may devour.

Hebrews 12:2
Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

He perfects our faith. It doesn't say that He perfects the old man, He perfects the new man, living in us, which is the Spirit. As we sow to the Spirit, and put to death daily, that old man, which is always there, we are being perfected in our faith, not in our flesh, but the Spirit. The flesh, is waging war against the Spirit, and we must sow to the Spirit, rather than the flesh. We can be made perfect, but only in the Spirit, and that in no way means that at times we do not stumble, because we all do, since the flesh is always there, right along the Spirit, and we must choose to put to death the sinful nature. This is the only way, all of the scriptures go together, not some, without the others.

James 3:2
2 We all stumble in many ways. If anyone is never at fault in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to keep his whole body in check.

If you can 'eternally lose' your salvation, what makes you think you are saved right now?

If you only 'might' be saved
how is it that you 'might not be' right now as you speak?

You certainly might NOT be right from your own mouth.

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I submit, for our mutual edification, the following words from the Lord Jesus Christ, as recorded in John 10 -

27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
 
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I submit, for our mutual edification, the following words from the Lord Jesus Christ, as recorded in John 10 -

27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
Yes Jesus did say he would call his people out by name, and they would follow no other.

Do any of you believe Jesus would lead you to sin?

Also how many of you all have heard Jesus actually call you out by name?
 
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This post is for my brothers and sisters in Christ who believe in the assurance of our salvation. I used the following message in another thread similar to this one but I wanted my brothers and sisters in Christ (who believe in the assurance of our salvation) here in this thread to read it, too. And for the information of those who believe in conditional salvation, I will not be responding to any of your posts or rebuttals against what I have written below. I am done dealing with arguing and debating over my belief in the assurance of my salvation. I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day (2 Timothy 1:12).

If God said WHOEVER believes in Jesus should not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16) and Jesus also said that WHOEVER believes in Him has everlasting life (John 6:47-51), then how is it possible for us to lose our salvation? If it is God's will that EVERYONE who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and Jesus WILL raise them up on the last day (John 6:40), then how is it possible for us to lose our salvation? Jesus explicitly said that WHOEVER hears His word and believes in God who sent Him has eternal life (John 5:24). He said NOTHING can snatch us out of His hand OR out of the hand of God (John 10:27-30). What could we possibly do that would cause us to be snatched out of the hand of Jesus' hand or out of the hand of God, when Jesus said that there is NOTHING that can snatch us away from Him? Jesus said that all the Father gives Him will come to Him, and the one who comes to Him He will by no means cast out (John 6:37) and He will not lose them. (John 6:39). If we can lose our salvation because of the sins we commit after coming to Christ, then He did NOT bear those sins and nail them to the cross, ONCE AND FOR ALL (Isaiah 53:5-6; Colossians 2:14; Hebrews 7:27; 9:21-28; 1 Peter 2:24; 3:18). If His sacrifice on the cross was not sufficient enough to atone for our sins (Romans 3:25; 5:8-9; Hebrews 7:27; 1 Peter 1:18-19; 1 John 2:2; 4:10), then which of our sins did He die for? If Jesus did not atone for our sins on the cross and His suffering and death was not sufficient enough to appease God's wrath against us, then we are still eternally condemned. And if we are still eternally condemned, then the Gospel cannot be the power of God unto salvation for EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES (Romans 1:16). If we can lose our salvation and be eternally condemned after making our confession for Christ, would that not make God out to be a liar, because He said the Gospel is His power unto salvation for EVERYONE who believes? And what about His testimony He gave of Jesus (1 John 5:9-13)?

Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this” (John 11:25-26). God demonstrated His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us (Romans 5:8) and in whom we have redemption through His blood and the forgiveness of our sins (Colossians 1:13-14). God made Him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God (2 Corinthians 5:21). We have been saved from the wrath of God through the cross of Jesus Christ (Romans 5:9-10; 1 Corinthians 1:30; Galatians 3:13-14; Colossians 3:3; 1 Thessalonians 5:9-10). Scripture tells us that Jesus bore our sins and nailed them to the cross once and for all (Isaiah 53:5-6; Colossians 2:14; Hebrews 7:27; 9:21-28; 1 Peter 2:24; 3:18) and that His suffering and death was sufficient enough to atone for our sins and appease God's wrath against our sins (Isaiah 53:4-6; Romans 3:24-26; 5:8-9; 11:6; Hebrews 2:17; 7:27; 9:26; 10:10-18; 1 Peter 1:18-19; 2:24; 1 John 2:2; 4:10). It is the POWER OF GOD that WILL justify us because of our belief and our faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 3:21-26, 5:1-11, 10:9-10; Ephesians 1:7-10, 2:4-10; Galatians 3:21-25; 1 Peter 1:3-9; 1 John 5:9-13, 20). In Him we also trusted, after we heard the word of truth, the gospel of our salvation; in whom also, having believed, we were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory (Ephesians 1:13-14). It will be the POWER OF GOD that WILL present us faultless before the presence of His glory (Romans 8:28-30; Jude 1:24-25).
 
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This post is for my brothers and sisters in Christ who believe in the assurance of our salvation. I used the following message in another thread similar to this one but I wanted my brothers and sisters in Christ (who believe in the assurance of our salvation) here in this thread to read it, too. And for the information of those who believe in conditional salvation, I will not be responding to any of your posts or rebuttals against what I have written below. I am done dealing with arguing and debating over my belief in the assurance of my salvation. I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day (2 Timothy 1:12).

If God said WHOEVER believes in Jesus should not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16) and Jesus also said that WHOEVER believes in Him has everlasting life (John 6:47-51), then how is it possible for us to lose our salvation? If it is God's will that EVERYONE who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and Jesus WILL raise them up on the last day (John 6:40), then how is it possible for us to lose our salvation? Jesus explicitly said that WHOEVER hears His word and believes in God who sent Him has eternal life (John 5:24). He said NOTHING can snatch us out of His hand OR out of the hand of God (John 10:27-30). What could we possibly do that would cause us to be snatched out of the hand of Jesus' hand or out of the hand of God, when Jesus said that there is NOTHING that can snatch us away from Him? Jesus said that all the Father gives Him will come to Him, and the one who comes to Him He will by no means cast out (John 6:37) and He will not lose them. (John 6:39). If we can lose our salvation because of the sins we commit after coming to Christ, then He did NOT bear those sins and nail them to the cross, ONCE AND FOR ALL (Isaiah 53:5-6; Colossians 2:14; Hebrews 7:27; 9:21-28; 1 Peter 2:24; 3:18). If His sacrifice on the cross was not sufficient enough to atone for our sins (Romans 3:25; 5:8-9; Hebrews 7:27; 1 Peter 1:18-19; 1 John 2:2; 4:10), then which of our sins did He die for? If Jesus did not atone for our sins on the cross and His suffering and death was not sufficient enough to appease God's wrath against us, then we are still eternally condemned. And if we are still eternally condemned, then the Gospel cannot be the power of God unto salvation for EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES (Romans 1:16). If we can lose our salvation and be eternally condemned after making our confession for Christ, would that not make God out to be a liar, because He said the Gospel is His power unto salvation for EVERYONE who believes? And what about His testimony He gave of Jesus (1 John 5:9-13)?

Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this” (John 11:25-26). God demonstrated His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us (Romans 5:8) and in whom we have redemption through His blood and the forgiveness of our sins (Colossians 1:13-14). God made Him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God (2 Corinthians 5:21). We have been saved from the wrath of God through the cross of Jesus Christ (Romans 5:9-10; 1 Corinthians 1:30; Galatians 3:13-14; Colossians 3:3; 1 Thessalonians 5:9-10). Scripture tells us that Jesus bore our sins and nailed them to the cross once and for all (Isaiah 53:5-6; Colossians 2:14; Hebrews 7:27; 9:21-28; 1 Peter 2:24; 3:18) and that His suffering and death was sufficient enough to atone for our sins and appease God's wrath against our sins (Isaiah 53:4-6; Romans 3:24-26; 5:8-9; 11:6; Hebrews 2:17; 7:27; 9:26; 10:10-18; 1 Peter 1:18-19; 2:24; 1 John 2:2; 4:10). It is the POWER OF GOD that WILL justify us because of our belief and our faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 3:21-26, 5:1-11, 10:9-10; Ephesians 1:7-10, 2:4-10; Galatians 3:21-25; 1 Peter 1:3-9; 1 John 5:9-13, 20). In Him we also trusted, after we heard the word of truth, the gospel of our salvation; in whom also, having believed, we were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory (Ephesians 1:13-14). It will be the POWER OF GOD that WILL present us faultless before the presence of His glory (Romans 8:28-30;Jude 1:24-25).
And not one place in any of the verses you quoted does it say that being saved, and having eternal life means one who sins will ever enter the kingdom of God.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-19) “You know perfectly well that people who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God: people of immoral lives, idolaters, adulterers, catamites, sodomites, thieves, usurers, drunkards, slanders and swindlers will never inherit the kingdom of God.”

 
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"Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, (Isaiah 1:18). So we reason!

If anyone sees his brother (note 1) commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life (note 2). I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death (note 3). There is a sin (note 4) that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that (note 5). All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death. (1 John 5:16,17).

note 1: "a brother" - refers to a christian.
note 2: "life" - this is a brother who is physically alive, this life must be referring to spiritual life.
note 3: "death" - if the life is spiritual, death must also be spiritual.
note 4: "a sin" - that is one sin, and this sin is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. This is the sin, God will not forgive.
note 5: John tell us not to pray about it because intercession is not possible - an unforgivable cannot become forgivable.

A brother can commit this sin and be LOST! OSAS is a false teaching.

What about all those verses that eternal security advocates quote?
Our relationship with God is through the New Covenant. There are promises made by both parties to the covenant. Those passages are God's covenant promises. When a person fails to deliver on his promises or walks out of the covenant; I doubt God is obligated to keep those covenant promises.

God terminated the Covenant with the nation of Israel; he can likewise end a New Covenant relationship - for God shows no favoritism.
 
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Where in Scripture does it say He terminated the Covenant with Israel?

Good question, indeed. Our brother Paul seemed to think otherwise. This is what he had to say about it in Romans 11 -

11 I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3 “Lord, they have killed Your prophets, they have torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they are seeking my life.” 4 But what is the divine response to him? “I have kept for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” 5 In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God’s gracious choice. 6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.
7 What then? What Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were hardened; 8 just as it is written,
“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
Eyes to see not and ears to hear not,
Down to this very day.”

9 And David says,
“Let their table become a snare and a trap,
And a stumbling block and a retribution to them.
10 “Let their eyes be darkened to see not,
And bend their backs forever.”

11 I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous. 12 Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their fulfillment be! 13 But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14 if somehow I might move to jealousy my fellow countrymen and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too.
17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; 21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. 22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,
“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
He will remove ungodliness from Jacob.”
27 “This is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”

28 From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers; 29 for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
 
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God terminated the Covenant with the nation of Israel; he can likewise end a New Covenant relationship - for God shows no favoritism.
Nor does He repent of His gifts like the gift of showing mercy & giving eternal life to those who were His enemies. Salvation is about God's mercy, not man's performance. Performance earns rewards in heaven, not entrance therein.
 
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Good question, indeed. Our brother Paul seemed to think otherwise. This is what he had to say about it in Romans 11 -

11 I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3 “Lord, they have killed Your prophets, they have torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they are seeking my life.” 4 But what is the divine response to him? “I have kept for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” 5 In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God’s gracious choice. 6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.
7 What then? What Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were hardened; 8 just as it is written,
“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
Eyes to see not and ears to hear not,
Down to this very day.”

9 And David says,
“Let their table become a snare and a trap,
And a stumbling block and a retribution to them.
10 “Let their eyes be darkened to see not,
And bend their backs forever.”

11 I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous. 12 Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their fulfillment be! 13 But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14 if somehow I might move to jealousy my fellow countrymen and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too.
17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; 21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. 22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,
“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
He will remove ungodliness from Jacob.”
27 “This is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”

28 From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers; 29 for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

It is obvious, God has not rejected the Jews; disciples were Jews, Paul was a Jew, many Jews believed and were saved. God divorced Israel, the Old Covenant is terminated.

A merciful God introduced a new Covenant, and is opened to all people; including the Jews.

Heb 8:13, By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear."
 
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