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Hey Christian-Catholic,

I remember when I used to feel the same way. All I wanted to do was believe and all the thoughts seemed like they were trying to do was to keep me from the Lord, the doubts, the aggression, the negativity toward Him it truly hurt me. And it felt like I was going to perish, it felt like I was alone, it felt like I was doomed. . .but I had to learn to rely on His word and not my feelings. It may feel like I'm alone, but He says that He will not leave us comfortless, it might feel like I'm going to perish but He says that we can't be plucked out His hand. It's hard and day and night, I'd be restless, tossing and turning, just so distracted from life. But you know, yes we are weak, but He is strong, and yes we are incapable, but the Lord is capable, so don't worry what you can't do, focus on what the Lord can do, has done, and will do. Look at how many hours He spent healing the sick and those who had hardships and illnesses that were keeping them from having joy. He wants us to be whole. And I used to ask if you have all the power, why not take this away from me now. It's because sometimes He wants us to know that He has enough power to keep us in a situation, that seems unbearable, that seems impossible, that is so painful. . .and I remember the thoughts, I remember the restless nights, the tears, the anguish, I thought He was mad at me, I thought it was over but honestly as much as it hurts to say this, I'm glad that they happened. Because they taught me to trust in the Lord, when all seems wrong, and my faith has increased. THey showed me that no matter what it seemed, the Lord knows my heart and won't punish me for something that I want deliverance from and that I don't want. They taught me that He is always with me, even if it doesn't feel like it, He hears us. I know this is a difficult time for you and I just want to let you know that I understand where you are, because when they first came and came on strong, I just couldn't think about nothing else but getting rid of them. But I had to learn to trust in the Lord and His word despite my feelings. And it's hard. But if you ask Him to help you, whether it's every second, every hour, He will. The Lord is with you. He doesn't clock in and clock off, He is there with you. Trust in His word. Don't rely on your feelings. Spend time with Him daily, read, and believe, no matter how painful and hard it is, and when those thoughts come, don't worry. They flash across your mind but He will print His word in your heart and that outlasts all. When they come, you just have to tell yourself, I know what is happening, but I know what the Lord says, feelings can be misleading but the Lord never lies. He never has, never will. He loves you so much and He is so proud that you continue to seek Him and fight against this, but give it to Him daily. Put it in His hands. And have faith and trust in Him. I know you're weak and you're time but is willing and able. Don't be discouraged. I read Acts and was just amazed at all that Paul went through. He went through a lot of hardships, but the Lord was constantly with Him, the Holy Spirit, guiding and directing Him. Giving Him encouragement and helping Him through it all. And He will do the same for you. Kay Kay is right, focus on the Lord. and Zingiber as well when he says feelings can be misleading. I know it's so hard because all you want is for them is to go away, and I still get some from time to time, but I know way more and have way more faith than I had before. I pray more than even before. Read the word more than ever before. And praise much harder than ever before. Oh He is so good and He will hold you in His hands. Even if it feels like you're slipping, He has you in His hands. Continue to seek Him with your heart and give it up to Him daily, He hears you and is with you.

I remember Mitzi posting on here that once Paul had a thorn in the flesh and he prayed for the Lord to remove it three times--this is in 2 Corinthians 12:8. And he just wanted it to leave Him and the Lord told Him in the next verse, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. The Lord's grace is enough for you as well, and although you are weak, He has enough strength to bring you through the situation.

Spend some time in the four gospels with Him and believe what He has done and that He can still do the same for you. His compassion, His love, fill your mind with these things, positive things, things of truth and substance, and be encouraged. I pray for you and will continue to do so. I don't know if you're going to church tomorrow but I pray that you find peace =]

Also, listen to this song by Donnie McClurkin "STAND" it is encouraging and uplifting. Gospel music is truly amazing and uplifts the soul.
 
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Thanks ShelovesChrist, im trying my best but the feelings have grown so strong that im getting confused. I dont know what to think, its like the thoughts have set up a scenario of an illusion that seems so real based on the debates that I cant even get any sleep at night. It feels so real. Now im shaking in bed because im scared that this could really be me thinking this. Im so scared, frightened and so alone.

My thyroid test came back and it was normal but my therapist/md found something he called revealing that could have something to do with my sensitivity to the cold.
My average red blood cell size is smaller then usual and they are more pale in color then usual. This could indicate thallasemia. If it is thallasemia minor im ok but if its thallasemia major there is no known cure:(.

I asked him if a condition like this could be making my thoughtsworse and he said that the anemia part could be. From what I read thallasemia is the mediterranean version of sickle cell anemia:(
The thing is now im not scared of any desease. All i want is for these thoughts to go away. I just want my lord and savior ::crying so hard::, in my whole being nothing else matters but Jesus:(
 
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Thanks ShelovesChrist, im trying my best but the feelings have grown so strong that im getting confused. I dont know what to think, its like the thoughts have set up a scenario of an illusion that seems so real based on the debates that I cant even get any sleep at night. It feels so real. Now im shaking in bed because im scared that this could really be me thinking this. Im so scared, frightened and so alone.

I'm glad that you're trying your best. And you are going to have days where you feel stronger than others, days where the thoughts are minimal and days where they really flare. But just remember that despite everything, the Lord is still with you. We know that confusion doesn't come from Him and in the beginning I had panic attacks too because I felt like they were coming from me. Now I realize that some things flash across my mind but at the end of the day its whats imprinted in the heart that matters. Put your trust in Him. I've had so many thoughts flash across disrespecting Him, taunting Him, oh they sucked back but at the end of day, despite it all, I still find strength to get on my knees and pray and read the word and praise Him in the midst of and no matter what, these thoughts aren't going to keep me from doing that. We are weak sometimes but He is strong always. John 14 truly touches my heart. And that helped me get through nights, along with the scripture that says we can't be plucked out His hands. Because I told myself, if the Lord never lies and He has this power, then no matter what it looks like, I know I have to be alright because He won't allow me, no matter if I feel like im perishing, to be plucked out His hands.

My thyroid test came back and it was normal but my therapist/md found something he called revealing that could have something to do with my sensitivity to the cold.
My average red blood cell size is smaller then usual and they are more pale in color then usual. This could indicate thallasemia. If it is thallasemia minor im ok but if its thallasemia major there is no known cure.

I'm going to continue to pray for you. We've all heard stories about what the doctors have said, yet, the Lord has the final say so in all of this. I've heard people say that doctors told them they weren't going to have kids, or ever walk again, and die from cancer, but there are so many miracles that still occur today, just like in the Biblical times. I can only imagine how hard it must be to hear some news like that, I'd be fearful too, but just continue to put your trust in the Lord. And pray okay.

I asked him if a condition like this could be making my thoughtsworse and he said that the anemia part could be. From what I read thallasemia is the mediterranean version of sickle cell anemia
The thing is now im not scared of any desease. All i want is for these thoughts to go away. I just want my lord and savior ::crying so hard::, in my whole being nothing else matters but Jesus

And He knows that you love you. Don't you know He sees how hard, despite what's being thrown at you, that you continue to seek Him and continue to cry out to Him. He knows your heart. And He is truly proud that you are determined not to let anything get in the way of you walk with Him. It's hard but know that you are not alone in this, others as I still have such thoughts, and that He is righteous and fair and wont condemn you for these things, an that He knows you and your situation more than yourself. I pray for you all the time and will continue to do so. Listen to the gospel song, "I Need You Know" by Smokie Norful. It's truly uplifting. I'm praying for you okay.
 
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Praying for you as well, physically and emotionally.:prayer: I totally agree with what ShelovesChrist said about diagnosis. First of all, don't sweat it till you know something for sure and even then, just like she said, as Christians, we don't always have to just docilely accept something. Like one of my former pastors used to say, "there is the facts and then there is the truth!" When I was in my late twenties, for example, a doctor told me he thought I had progressive myopia which would mean my eyes would just get worse and worse. When I told my husband, he said, you know, we don't have to just accept that and he prayed for me. From that time on, my eyes did NOT get any worse than what they were. Actually, they improved slightly.
 
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Well, My therapist called me up and said that it can only be thallasemia minor at most. I missed my appointment with him:(. I had so much on my mind that i forgot the time. Plus its almost impossible to get a hold of him because he always has his answering machine popping up, always on a trip somewhere and on vacation at times.
I finally had a free consultation with a therapist from my faith. She seemed so nice and understanding, but she cannot prescribe meds. Im gonna try to get a primary care doctor that could work in concert with her. The feelings have become so strong that they really feel like they are my thoughts. I dont remember when I have had a restfull day. The other day me and my aunt were praying to god in her car and my whole body was shaking during the prayer. The thoughts came back stronger then ever. I feel nothing but darkness, no joy, no laughter, no happiness.
The debates keep coming back and they are only taking the other side now.
Im shaking all over fighting the darkness despite the fact that my mind believes I am being illogical.

Im only praying now for god to spare me this pain and take me to him before it engulfs me completely:(
Thank you so much for ur prayers ShelovesChrist
 
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Praying for you as well, physically and emotionally.:prayer: I totally agree with what ShelovesChrist said about diagnosis. First of all, don't sweat it till you know something for sure and even then, just like she said, as Christians, we don't always have to just docilely accept something. Like one of my former pastors used to say, "there is the facts and then there is the truth!" When I was in my late twenties, for example, a doctor told me he thought I had progressive myopia which would mean my eyes would just get worse and worse. When I told my husband, he said, you know, we don't have to just accept that and he prayed for me. From that time on, my eyes did NOT get any worse than what they were. Actually, they improved slightly.

KayKay, I will try to remember that, and im so glad that ur eyes got better.
Even though they said that I dont have thallasemia major for sure, I really didnt care. How can any illness or hardship compare to having god with you? My heart is in agony and my soul feels so invisible and empty, but even if im on my death bed I will still cry out to him.
I wish I could get myself institutionalized to save my dad from seeing me like this. He is my best friend and the best dad on earth.
Why does he have to see me suffer so?
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KayKay, I will try to remember that, and im so glad that ur eyes got better.
Even though they said that I dont have thallasemia major for sure, I really didnt care. How can any illness or hardship compare to having god with you? My heart is in agony and my soul feels so invisible and empty, but even if im on my death bed I will still cry out to him.
I wish I could get myself institutionalized to save my dad from seeing me like this. He is my best friend and the best dad on earth.
Why does he have to see me suffer so?
:(
Well, I can only tell you that I personally went through about two really bad flares with my OCD. I'm talking really bad like you seem to be going through now.(There have been many other more minor ups and downs.) Once was in my twenties and once in my forties. (I am 54 now.) I did get through them but it was a tough ride.:eek: I had not even been diagnosed at that time with battling OCD. But the encouragement from that is~ I DID get throught them!:clap: Hang in! If necessary, get yourself a good apologetic book and read it (NOT that forum you've been on! Avoid that like the plague!) Some would say that reassurance only feeds the OCD, but that (doing the apologetic book) helped me manage for awhile and settle down a bit. (If you need one to read and don't have access/finances to a good one, pm me an address, and I will personally mail one to you.) Just don't dwell on the intrusive thoughts too much and don't try to argue them out. That doesn't work. The OCD will just morph into other questions/issues. The thing is if you truly battle OCD, that will usually only be a band-aid unless you also seek further help...which you seem to be doing.:thumbsup: And then I just advise, seeing your therapist and he/she isn't helping, look for another one. Consider meds as well and it sounds like you are, and hang in and keep walking it out one day at a time calling on the Lord for help, of course.:prayer::hug:
 
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The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth. He will fulfil the desire of them that fear him: he also will hear their cry, and will save them. Psalm 145:18-19

What an encouraging testimony Kay Kay ! Such a blessing.

And CC, you just have to take it one step at a time. I love the determination you have while in this. No matter obstacle, you won't allow these thoughts to get in the way of your love for the Lord. And I truly believe that nothing can. My auntie sends a word of the day to me daily and I think this scripture could be very fruitful to you:

The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth. He will fulfil the desire of them that fear him: he also will hear their cry, and will save them. Psalm 145:18-19

And remember no matter how we feel, we are always in the Lord's hands. You have to believe that He wont forsake you and that He is always with you. Sometimes we have to continue to push through even when it feels like all is wrong and against us and that we're alone. But our God never lies. If He says it, then it is, despite how we may feel.


Hope you have a blessed day. Will continue to pray for you as always =]
 
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Thank you so much ShelovesChrist and Kaykay. It has been a challenge just to even sleep lately but I have been praying every day at least an hour for god to deliver me from this affliction. I finally got a new therapist that loves the lord. She wants to try to expose me to the root of my ocd but feels that Im still in a very weakened condition to take it right now. She noticed off the bat that im grabbing at my sides to try to massage the stress pains out of them.

She wants me to try somantic experiencing (if this is spelled correctly) such as trying to notice things that bring pleasure and joy to my site and really smell things too. She also wants me to stop arguing with the thoughts and find a way to put them in a vault or in time out for a few minutes so that I could get some relief. I feel more comfortable with this woman and she seems to know what shes doing . I dont feel like a number anymore.
I just wanted you all to know that I put every one of you into my prayer intentions each day.
I havent forgotten about anyone
God bless you all
Keep praying for me please
 
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Thank you so much ShelovesChrist and Kaykay. It has been a challenge just to even sleep lately but I have been praying every day at least an hour for god to deliver me from this affliction. I finally got a new therapist that loves the lord. She wants to try to expose me to the root of my ocd but feels that Im still in a very weakened condition to take it right now. She noticed off the bat that im grabbing at my sides to try to massage the stress pains out of them.

She wants me to try somantic experiencing (if this is spelled correctly) such as trying to notice things that bring pleasure and joy to my site and really smell things too. She also wants me to stop arguing with the thoughts and find a way to put them in a vault or in time out for a few minutes so that I could get some relief. I feel more comfortable with this woman and she seems to know what shes doing . I dont feel like a number anymore.
I just wanted you all to know that I put every one of you into my prayer intentions each day.
I havent forgotten about anyone
God bless you all
Keep praying for me please
Glad you found a therapist you feel comfortable with and who loves the Lord!:thumbsup: I think it is very important to try to find someone who "seems a fit" to you. Sometimes this takes some doing. I totally agree with her about not arguing with the thoughts. This sometimes seems like it wouldn't help but for most, it is the quickest way out of them. Thanks for your prayers and continuing to pray for you as well.:hug::prayer:
 
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Hey Christian,
Wow.. sounds like you have a great therapist. That is an answer to prayer. When my OCD is bad my hands are always on my gut due to the tension and abdominal pain.
It's fine and good and right to ask for deliverance from this affliction but it's also important to remember that the scriptures tell us that "we are more than conquerors IN these things." This means that no disorder or illness impedes the work of God in us through Jesus Christ, His Spirit and His Word. We are not to look on our affliction like... "oh well I suppose God can use me in spite of this", but rather, "God is going to use me in and through and even because of this affliction." Paul: "His strength is made perfect in my weakness.. I will therefore glory in my affliction that the power of Christ may rest more fully upon me, for when I am weak, I am strong." That strength was not Paul's but Christ's in and through Him. The affliction only drove Paul to be even more dependant on Christ's strength instead of his own. This is a good thing.
Do you feel adequate for the work of God? I don't. If I did I think I'd be more apt to forget Him. I might be busy doing His work but I wouldn't be depending on Him I'd be depending on my own strength and that's a dangerous thing to do.
Praying for you.
Mitzi
Thank you so much ShelovesChrist and Kaykay. It has been a challenge just to even sleep lately but I have been praying every day at least an hour for god to deliver me from this affliction. I finally got a new therapist that loves the lord. She wants to try to expose me to the root of my ocd but feels that Im still in a very weakened condition to take it right now. She noticed off the bat that im grabbing at my sides to try to massage the stress pains out of them.

She wants me to try somantic experiencing (if this is spelled correctly) such as trying to notice things that bring pleasure and joy to my site and really smell things too. She also wants me to stop arguing with the thoughts and find a way to put them in a vault or in time out for a few minutes so that I could get some relief. I feel more comfortable with this woman and she seems to know what shes doing . I dont feel like a number anymore.
I just wanted you all to know that I put every one of you into my prayer intentions each day.
I havent forgotten about anyone
God bless you all
Keep praying for me please
 
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Hello Grace, you are really right on this, so a few days back during some intense praying, I asked god to give me some closure to understand for sure that it was the OCD 100% and not me ( i was 99% sure but you know how ocd can blow up that 1% into gigantic proportions). I came across an appologetics post from a believer that brought me some type of closure from the constant analytical thoughts of Causation etc. This was when I truely realized that it was the ocd all the way. Im still getting the attacks but since I realize its ocd, I am dealing with them a tiny bit better.
Gracealone, yea you sure do understand what I am going through with the abdominal and side pain plus we both went through an almost identical situation. This is just one of many reasons why I felt comfortable talking to you about this. You also have a friend if you ever get into this situation again:).
I am starting to rely more on the lord now than ever before.
Plus I have never p[rayed so much in my life:clap:.

I am also using a combination of Rhodiola, 5-htp, passion flower,S-ame and a liquid magnesium drink.




Hey Christian,
Wow.. sounds like you have a great therapist. That is an answer to prayer. When my OCD is bad my hands are always on my gut due to the tension and abdominal pain.
It's fine and good and right to ask for deliverance from this affliction but it's also important to remember that the scriptures tell us that "we are more than conquerors IN these things." This means that no disorder or illness impedes the work of God in us through Jesus Christ, His Spirit and His Word. We are not to look on our affliction like... "oh well I suppose God can use me in spite of this", but rather, "God is going to use me in and through and even because of this affliction." Paul: "His strength is made perfect in my weakness.. I will therefore glory in my affliction that the power of Christ may rest more fully upon me, for when I am weak, I am strong." That strength was not Paul's but Christ's in and through Him. The affliction only drove Paul to be even more dependant on Christ's strength instead of his own. This is a good thing.
Do you feel adequate for the work of God? I don't. If I did I think I'd be more apt to forget Him. I might be busy doing His work but I wouldn't be depending on Him I'd be depending on my own strength and that's a dangerous thing to do.
Praying for you.
Mitzi
 
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Thanks Kaykay, Its good to know that I have so many warriors of our lord and savior praying for me. I have included you all in my prayer intentions also:)


Glad you found a therapist you feel comfortable with and who loves the Lord!:thumbsup: I think it is very important to try to find someone who "seems a fit" to you. Sometimes this takes some doing. I totally agree with her about not arguing with the thoughts. This sometimes seems like it wouldn't help but for most, it is the quickest way out of them. Thanks for your prayers and continuing to pray for you as well.:hug::prayer:
 
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Yes.. the one percent doubt will always rise to the surface with OCD... that's it's nature. It needs something to feed on in order to expend all that excess adrenaline.
Remember it's often two steps forward and one step back when you're learning to manage OCD. Don't let that discourage you just keep at it and follow the advice of your therapist.
Thank you for your offer of prayers for me. I still have bad days from time to time and a future flare is not out of the realm of possibility. I don't try to convince myself that I'll never get debilitated with OCD again because as soon as I start to go there I make that possibility an OCD theme and begin to look for reassurance that I won't get "sick" again. Crazy disorder... trips me up time and again.. but I'm getting better at recognizing it's tactics. When it says "BOO" I just say... "whatever.. is that the best you can do?" Sometimes I offer some even scarier ideas than the original "boo". I call this a "controlled burn" as it's like fighting fire with fire. It really helps me a lot, but I couldn't manage that at first. Just letting the thoughts be there without attending to them is the best I could manage at first. Then, when I felt calmer I began to one up the thoughts and that really empowered me against the disorder. I'm sure your therapist will eventually teach you about that too. But for now I think you're doing a great job. Hope the supplements benefit you too. Be patient with them - it can take some time to feel the benefits.
Praying,
Mitzi

Hello Grace, you are really right on this, so a few days back during some intense praying, I asked god to give me some closure to understand for sure that it was the OCD 100% and not me ( i was 99% sure but you know how ocd can blow up that 1% into gigantic proportions). I came across an appologetics post from a believer that brought me some type of closure from the constant analytical thoughts of Causation etc. This was when I truely realized that it was the ocd all the way. Im still getting the attacks but since I realize its ocd, I am dealing with them a tiny bit better.
Gracealone, yea you sure do understand what I am going through with the abdominal and side pain plus we both went through an almost identical situation. This is just one of many reasons why I felt comfortable talking to you about this. You also have a friend if you ever get into this situation again:).
I am starting to rely more on the lord now than ever before.
Plus I have never p[rayed so much in my life:clap:.

I am also using a combination of Rhodiola, 5-htp, passion flower,S-ame and a liquid magnesium drink.
 
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I thought that I had found closure but I have rellapsed back stronger then ever. Yesterday when someone on my job mentioned that my machine is only working sometimes by the grace of god, the anxiety came back with full intensity and at that point I just wanted to go home:(.

I cant wait to get a primary care doctor, but my brother follows me around no matter where I go. He has tortured me my whole life and even now wont leave me alone, and the last time he found out they were testing me for thallasemia he started ocding about himself being sick. Its like he is asking for more ocd on purpose.

Maybe im just fooling myself into thinking these thoughts will ever go away:(
My soul feels so empty and dark
Im praying every day and it feels like im totally numb and empty inside:(
 
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I thought that I had found closure but I have rellapsed back stronger then ever. Yesterday when someone on my job mentioned that my machine is only working sometimes by the grace of god, the anxiety came back with full intensity and at that point I just wanted to go home:(.

I cant wait to get a primary care doctor, but my brother follows me around no matter where I go. He has tortured me my whole life and even now wont leave me alone, and the last time he found out they were testing me for thallasemia he started ocding about himself being sick. Its like he is asking for more ocd on purpose.

Maybe im just fooling myself into thinking these thoughts will ever go away:(
My soul feels so empty and dark
Im praying every day and it feels like im totally numb and empty inside:(
Don't be discouraged. Battling OCD and finding healing is usually a process that takes some time. Till then it may be a few steps forward and then one back etc. I was with a woman last night who was sharing how the Lord had healed her from fear. Great testimony but it wasn't all at once. It was more "line upon line, precept upon precept." as Isaiah 28:10 says. I think in one of my really bad flairs (back in my twenties I felt like you do, now but it did get better!) Like any illness, I think we can certainly seek and believe for healing/deliverance, but in the meantime, just keep seeking treatment and walking towards Jesus! Praying for you~:hug:
 
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My soul feels so empty and dark
Im praying every day and it feels like im totally numb and empty inside


Dont give up. Remember no matter how you feel, He is there because He says He is. I know sometimes we just want to feel Him and curl in His arms and cry and we feel alone but His Spirit abides with us and whenever we feel burdened we can get on our knees and pray and He hears our cry. Who else knows are current pains and causes more than we do ourselves. no one else but Him. it hurts so bad because all you want to do is get closer and the thoughts seem like they're tearing you apart and no one around really seems to understand but remember we are in His hand and He has never failed. He will not leave you comfortless. Praying for you and I hope you have a good day =]
 
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My soul feels so empty and dark
Im praying every day and it feels like im totally numb and empty inside

Dont give up. Remember no matter how you feel, He is there because He says He is. I know sometimes we just want to feel Him and curl in His arms and cry and we feel alone but His Spirit abides with us and whenever we feel burdened we can get on our knees and pray and He hears our cry. Who else knows are current pains and causes more than we do ourselves. no one else but Him. it hurts so bad because all you want to do is get closer and the thoughts seem like they're tearing you apart and no one around really seems to understand but remember we are in His hand and He has never failed. He will not leave you comfortless. Praying for you and I hope you have a good day =]

ShelovesChrist, you describe the feeling perfectly. Sorry I didnt post in a while but im still around. I have been praying every day without fail and even though it feels so dark and empty at times I will not leave my lord.


I finally felt just enough energy to go mountain hiking up my favorite mountain. It was in the high 70 degrees today and even though it is warm to most people its on the chilly side for me. So I put on my sweat pants and my heavy sweater and started up the trail. I didnt know if I would make it up the mountain but I was going to give it my best. A quarter of the way up I ran into a 50 year old born again Christian gentleman who thought I was a boxer or runner that was trying to sweat off some pounds lol. I told him no, that I had a big problem with the cold weather due to a past illness that kept me bedridden for 2 years and almost killed me. Turned out that he also had some problems for a while with the cold and hot weather. The conversation went on until he brought up the Lord and how he saved him during his darkest moments. This was when I opened up to him and explained what I was going through. Turns out he went through times of doubt also (and still gets them at at times). We both agreed that we hated the thoughts with all our heart. He then said something that completely baffled me. He said when I spoke he could sense a grace within me. This totally confused me because how could a person have grace with the lord and have these thoughts. He said everytime I spoke about the lord he would feel it within.


Im lost folks. How can this be. To me im grasping for faith.
Can someone please explain this:confused:.

Other then that I can say that it felt like a small victory that I made it all the way up the mountain. I made the sign of the cross, Thanked the Lord with all my heart, then came back home. I know the thoughts would come back but at least I had an hour that they werent that strong.

I love everyone here and I have put you all on my special prayer list which I do every day. Only problem is that list is growing so far im gonna need a page 3 soon:D

Thanks everyone:)
 
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