Noah's Ark

[TagliatelliMonster]

Is faith proper?

If "faith" means "belief without rational evidence", then no.

 

[lesliedellow]

Like the Sumerian empire, built by a backslider? an empire that wrote its own version of the Flood in order to mock it? an empire so evil the Antichrist will resurrect it in the Tribulation?

Or the Egyptian empire? an empire that, in Bible typology, is a type of the world? an empire that enslaved the Hebrews and attempted genocide by prolicide? the one God calls the "iron furnace"? the one that was placed off-limits to Old Testament saints?

You are trying to dodge the fact that 2348BC is a date within recorded history,

 

[AV1611VET]

I've always wondered why you think the white cliffs of Dover were formed by a flood? I'm sure you've explained it before but I must have missed it.

I believe that, when God cleaned up after the Flood, He swept up the coccolithophores into piles and left them there for our use.

 

[AV1611VET]

If "faith" means "belief without rational evidence", then no.

Faith is believing something, even if science says otherwise.

 

[AV1611VET]

You are trying to dodge the fact that 2348BC is a date within recorded history,

2348 BC is the year of the Flood.

 

[Goonie]

2348 BC is the year of the Flood.

Not according to recorded history, or the archaeology on the ground.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Faith is believing something, even if science says otherwise.

Indeed, that's not proper nore rational.

 

[AV1611VET]

Not according to recorded history, or the archaeology on the ground.

Where the Bible disagrees with recorded history, recorded history is wrong.

What's the recorded history of the Promised Land, according to your lying journals?

Can you answer that?

Is Israel the Promised Land?

Or is your anti-Semitic garbage you worship as recorded history wrong?

 

[Goonie]

Where the Bible disagrees with recorded history, recorded history is wrong.

What's the recorded history of the Promised Land, according to your lying journals?

Can you answer that?

Is Israel the Promised Land?

Or is your anti-Semitic garbage you worship as recorded history wrong?

Wrong side of bed this morning AV?

 

[AV1611VET]

Indeed, that's not proper nore rational.

Our martyrs died for refusing to believe what you believe.

And they'd do it again today if they could.

 

[VirOptimus]

Physical reality talks funny: often saying contradictory things.

How does physical reality say we got our moon?

And of all the ways, which one does physical reality say is the best one?

Irrelevant, and only shows that you dont understand science, or for that matter, faith.

 

[lesliedellow]

2348 BC is the year of the Flood.

It is also the year Pharoah Unas in Egypt appeared to live through without drowning in a great flood, or even getting his feet wet a puddle.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

Our martyrs died for refusing to believe what you believe.

And they'd do it again today if they could.

I'm actually genuinely curious.

Which martyrs died for refusing to believe in evolution and/or for insisting that Noah's flood literally occurred?

 

[Colter]

Where the Bible disagrees with recorded history, recorded history is wrong.

What's the recorded history of the Promised Land, according to your lying journals?

Can you answer that?

Is Israel the Promised Land?

Or is your anti-Semitic garbage you worship as recorded history wrong?

Meanwhile, back on earth:

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling! Look, your house is left to you desolate."

 

[Colter]

It is also the year Pharoah Unas in Egypt appeared to live through without drowning in a great flood, or even getting his feet wet a puddle.

Its the Bible that is misleading him not apocrypha.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Our martyrs died for refusing to believe what you believe.

Everybody that dies for whatever ideology is called a martyr.

I'm sure you're not impressed by islamist martyrs. Why would I be impressed when the ideology of choice happens to be (your version of) christianity?

And they'd do it again today if they could.

They could do it a thousand times over and it still wouldn't have any relevance to their beliefs being accurate or justified.

 

[AV1611VET]

Meanwhile, back on earth:

Earth?

Where's that?

 

[AV1611VET]

Everybody that dies for whatever ideology is called a martyr.

I said "refusing to believe."

I was talking to an atheist ... remember?

Our martyrs would rather die than believe in atheism.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I said "refusing to believe."

Because it was incompatible with what they already believed.

I was talking to an atheist ... remember?
Our martyrs would rather die than believe in atheism.

It doesn't matter in what type of sentence you wish to package this.
Throughout history, people have been giving their lives in vain because they were deceived in whatever ways.

The fact that christians in iraq prefered beheading instead of converting to islam, only says something about how serious they were about their beliefs.

It doesn't say anything about how accurate (or not) their beliefs are.

The accuracy of a belief isn't determined by how many people believe nore by how hard they believe it.

 

[Jimmy D]

I believe that, when God cleaned up after the Flood, He swept up the coccolithophores into piles and left them there for our use.

Gotcha, thanks.

 

[GondwanaLand]

Here's a groovy video I found that talks about Noah's Ark, which happens to be my minor forté.

So I though I'd post it and then pick it apart over time; but not necessarily in chronological order.

The first thing I would like to point out is that Noah's Ark is not a boat, it is an ark.

A containment vessel.

Calling it a boat or a ship shows a disrespect for its true identity.

More later.

Noah's ark, no matter what name you call it by - boat, ship, ark, containment vessel, simply would not have been able to float. Physics and mechanics of materials preclude its ability to do so.