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[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Martin: virtue = innate power what flows out from unspoiled, unconditional, and boundless love.

 

[stranger]

The Avatar of friend 'BlackBerry' is a very ancient symbol of the reconciliation, brought to life in this age of animation.... a sign?

 

[stranger]

Moriah ... I cannot reply except here to your PM unless you add me to your 'buddy' list , so I reply here for now ...

The perfect sacrifice of the 'olive branch' , the remnant of Israel, redeemed from the world, by means of the dove, the comforter, the spirit of the Truth of God , given only by God to the few by the new covenant [Heb 8:8-12, Jer 31-34] of grace to those who could not merit it , yet are propesied to be His servants in teh new earth, TAKEN at the return of the Messiah because God frees them FIRST ... the first of many [Rev 7:3-10] to come after in the new earth .

So tell me please, if you will and can, what you know of the end of this earth, be it all ended and the new earth created anew, or be it a continuation , a remodeling ... for no man survives the end of this earth in the wrath of the Lamb, so all move on only by translation in this earth to be free to love or ,if sinners still, through death to the second resurrection

 

[IXOYE5]

Martin: virtue = innate power what flows out from unspoiled, unconditional, and boundless love.

Thanks!!!!!

Can I also quote that virtue= all those things that you mentioned is from the Love of God then?

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

No, Martin, you may not. If you wish to quote Moriah, you will use Moriah's precise words, and none other. If you wish to formulate your own notions, and use your own words, obviously you need neither this one's permission nor its accreditation.

 

[stranger]

2 Chronicles 34:21 Go, enquire of Yahweh for me, and for the remnant in Israel and in Judah, concerning the words of the book which hath been found,—for great is the wrath of Yahweh, which hath been poured out upon us, because our fathers, kept not, the word of Yahweh, to do according to all that is written in this book.

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the House of Israel and with the House of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers

Rev 11:3 ¶ And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

Zec 4:5 Then answered the messenger who was speaking with me, and said unto me, Knowest thou not what these, are? And I said, No my lord.
6 Then responded he, and spake unto me, saying, This, is the word of Yahweh, unto Zerubbabel, saying,—Not by wealth, nor by strength, but by my spirit, saith Yahweh of hosts.

John 16:13 Howbeit, as soon as, he, hath come—The Spirit of truth, he will guide you into all truth;

 

[IXOYE5]

Martin: virtue = innate power what flows out from unspoiled, unconditional, and boundless love.

No, Martin, you may not. If you wish to quote Moriah, you will use Moriah's precise words, and none other. If you wish to formulate your own notions, and use your own words, obviously you need neither this one's permission nor its accreditation.

Sorry Moriah,

disregard that last post...

I looked up the words ~innate power~ and I appreciate your knowledge of words used.

You have "helped greatly"

Thank you!!!

Take care sis!

 

[stranger]

Don't cry.

Are not tears
distilled from the truth of God?
Who can live
in this world
were the flow of tears
to stop?

Who cease them?
Who can know them?
Who can value them?
But the few
in this earth.,
the many
of the new earth,
and those above
...and those below?
​

 

[stranger]

Please remember that I provide these links in the spirit of love and of peace.
Red Fox

Be-est thou tired little one?
From love's trials?
Sleep in peace awhile
And we shall set a watch,
all is quiet...
until 'tomorrow' comes

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Are not tears
distilled from the truth of God?
Who can live
in this world
were the flow of tears
to stop?

Who cease them?
Who can know them?
Who can value them?
But the few
in this earth.,
the many
of the new earth,
and those above
...and those below?
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it just does not like to be the cause for them bes all.

 

[GigageiTsula]

Good morning one and all. I am away from home but will be going back home late this afternoon. How has everyone been? What have I missed? I hope everyone is well and has a restful and peaceful day today.

Red Fox

 

[stranger]

it just does not like to be the cause for them bes all.

Will God not cause many tears of repentance
before the reconciliation is over?

Will the servants of God not cause many tears before the reconcilaition is over?

Will the servants of the servants of God not weep
many tears
of repenatnce
before the reconcilaition is over

and the Satan , last of all ,
rejoice in no more tears
knowing he never was a god,
as cherub
or as man
or as lion
but then is One with God
on eagles wiings

Does the time-heart end then,
or is this endless knowing ,
the glory of God through pain
of knowing what He is NOT ,
an eternal truth because it is of God ,
an endless beat with no rythym ,
A song sung in the silence
beyond the ages ?
​

 

[stranger]

Good morning one and all. I am away from home but will be going back home late this afternoon. How has everyone been? What have I missed? I hope everyone is well and has a restful and peaceful day today.

Red Fox

We be right glad to see thee back
and have said things as if anew
so settle down refreshed and read
and we shall talk you through a few

 

[stranger]

Some movement on a forum slot at last .. after ages of waiting ... WOW !!! .. we need everyone's views on this... !

http://foru.ms/t6268631-an-indigenous-peoples-forum.html&page=2

 

[FaithfulWife]

Psalm 89:1
I will sing of the mercies of the LORD for ever:
with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Will God not cause many tears of repentance
before the reconciliation is over?

Will the servants of God not cause many tears before the reconcilaition is over?

Will the servants of the servants of God not weep
many tears
of repenatnce
before the reconcilaition is over​

It doesn't know.
All it knows bes that guilt sucks and fear sucks and it would see these eradicated from the universe because they serve no useful purpose whatsoever and bes not worthy motivations for anything. Both cause tears, and the only tears whats worth a fig bes them whats shed for another, not for oneself.

​

and the Satan , last of all ,
rejoice in no more tears
knowing he never was a god,
as cherub
or as man
or as lion
but then is One with God
on eagles wings

Ha-shaitan has a Name you know, even as does Ha-shem. Hilel ben Shahar.
​

Does the time-heart end then,
or is this endless knowing ,
the glory of God through pain
of knowing what He is NOT ,
an eternal truth because it is of God ,
an endless beat with no rythym ,
A song sung in the silence
beyond the ages ?

This one will end, because it bes given to oblivion to service as the Makhashanah in the end. While it bes alive it bes the World-soul, soul of the world; the Heh Finale, the Daughter of the Divine and the Habitation of Demons. But in that grand and glorious Parousia shall the earth split open to release her dead. So shall its flesh split asunder and all its Inhabitants be released for Reconciliation. Then it shall be delivered at last, and expire.

 

[stranger]

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It doesn't know.
All it knows bes that guilt sucks and fear sucks and it would see these eradicated from the universe because they serve no useful purpose whatsoever and bes not worthy motivations for anything.

Fear of God is the beginning of understanding about love , only when love is perfected is fear cast out completely , thus to fear God initially moves one toward seeking to do love , ceasing to sin against the world , finding obedience to God :-

Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.

Psalms 111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

Guilt is created by going against one's own awareness of what God will require of one in the end, perfect love ... originally guilt is caused by conscience , later by God more directly ...

Again guilt works repentance and eventually patience with God's plan, once one realises that only God is able to help most

A deeper understanding is to see that it is God who created evil for His own purpose , the humbling of and reconciliation with His prodigal son ... thus the Satan is given almost all mankind to rule in this earth, but cannot make it work because his ways are not the only ways that work, not the ways of love ... but is it God who required the knowledge of the time-heart , who created it in the knowing that it should not work ... thus it is God who takes it upon Himself from the beginning to redeem all creation to Him... ALL creation

The path of the Satan then is deepest love for the Father, but the terrible task of seeing if any other way than love can work, and failing.... it is not a happy task ,but is in fact the main task of God in this earth

In the new earth the task is the redemption of the many which is the role of Y'shua and nether was it a pleasant task, but undertaken from deepest love also, to suffer unjust death as a man and bring in the remnant few of Israel from this earth who have been tried by opposing Satan and the whole earth [Leviathan] united against them

Neither path then is a happy one apart from the love of God that directs all creation ,whether it be allowed to know that or not at any given time.

The end is long time away then, but many spend most of that time in death , but the end is assured in but three more stages which ensure the progressive removal of all mankind from control by Satan ,until he is left alone at the end, concedes that he is not a god, and receives the enduring mercy of God

There can be no doubt of this because it is written, but the words are not seen by many now ,since Satan must first confess his blasphemy [2Thess 2:4] and will not do so until he controls almost all the earth... thus God sends delusion on almost all men simply to humble his beloved prodigal son :-

2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Both cause tears, and the only tears whats worth a fig bes them whats shed for another, not for oneself.

Tears for oneself can help one see the truth about oneself ... tears for the world may show one's love for the world because one empathises with its pain... but in the end all tears cease because God will redeem all creation to Himself from the task He created it to serve for Him ...

Thus Y'shua was sent to die to take away the guilt and fear because God alone is 'responsible' for creating tears and evil and suffering , having created them only to know what He is not , as indeed He as God is required to know ...​

The suffering and the pain is then inevitable, but does end in joy when all is redeemed.... but in the meantime we must wait upon God's plan because God requires all to be moved along in progression , in stages that work beautifully to acheive His purpose [as we see it a purpose, it si not a purpose to Him, but simply the knowing of what He is not]

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This one will end, because it bes given to oblivion to service as the Makhashanah in the end. While it bes alive it bes the World-soul, soul of the world; the Heh Finale, the Daughter of the Divine and the Habitation of Demons.

You are talking of thing only as far as the end of the aeon , that is only the first stage in God's plan , all who die are resurrected to life in the second resurrection even the Satan

But in that grand and glorious Parousia shall the earth split open to release her dead. So shall its flesh split asunder and all its Inhabitants be released for Reconciliation. Then it shall be delivered at last, and expire.

Again that is only the end of the this phase of God's plan, there are two more in the life of saints in New Jerusalem, and in the lake of fire from God outside ..

These both have their purpose too , New Jerusalem first removes all who will believe God to trial to become saints after the spirit baptism
of all flesh ... so only those , including the Satan and all his 'entourage' are left alone to try to make evil work when there is none good left to prey upon ...

This then the only way that God can turn the most evil to seeking to love by His enduring mercy...

Thus all will abandon the Satan until he is left alone and realises that he is god of no-one, no god ... the final reconciliation of the prodigal son in the end of the time-heart

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Thus all will abandon the Satan until he is left alone and realises that he is god of no-one, no god ... the final reconciliation of the prodigal son in the end of the time-heart

Two shall never abandon Him: His Father, and the Daughter given to Him by His Father.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

And it stands by its earlier statements: guilt sucks, fear sucks, guilt and fear bes not worthy motivations for anything. Anyone needing to employ them has not learned either the way or the power of Love. Where this bes the method alone, nothing else bes necessary. Any saying otherwise simply know it not or have not sufficient faith therein. Love conquers all, and "all" means all. Love never fails, and "never" means never.

Do NOT attempt to argue with this one in this regard, it will not work and this one will not listen. It wants no knowing of corrupted and tainted ways when it comes to God. Leave those for ha-Shaitan who ruleth them.

 

[stranger]

Two shall never abandon Him: His Father, and the Daughter given to Him by His Father.

Thereby it speaks it's pain, and many others' pains, in not knowing its full end in Him ...

But Who is right , not I, but one above all...

Here be the words written :-

2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Revelation 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

Matthew 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

But know this from Him ....., NONE 'abandons' any but in love and only for a short while and ALL come together as One in the end of the time-heart...

No true love failed ever from being apart awhile for sake of love of all ...

Did God's Love fail when He rejected Israel's two Houses ? Did He not turn away that they might know the full depth of His Love in the end?