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stranger · Nov 24, 2007

I have written to '4Everloved' since she clearly has no idea whatever of the pain she caused and her mistakes through listening to sinners in the world, [not by reading God's holy scriptures of the saints of Israel].... and I can only apologise for not acting earlier ,even though I saw this problem and foolishly thought we would ride over it ... and even that we would grow stronger ,through it ,together , and it might bond people ... it was too soon for that I see , far too fast .... let us then retire to a more private place, PM me or use my e-mail ....

stranger · Nov 24, 2007

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Moriah_Conquering_Wind said:
With all due respect sir you do not seem interested in talking with daimonizomai.

You know this is not so.

It seems you bes interested in opposing this one, seeking to undermine its truths and reinforce its terrors, or redefine it as something it bes not, and it has no interest in such games at the moment.

It was '4Everloved' who said those things, not me , and she foolishly assumed i agreed with her, which I do not, as I explained above

It has its own things to attend and best not bes bringsy them here, for they be dark things indeed whats owning this one, and moreso especially this day.

I am aware of that of course and deeply value you taking the trouble and bearing the pain to try to speak your truth in a world where so few can hear ... this one is not unblinded, but sees some things that daimonizomai may wish to understand and you have many things which this one would like to understand ... if you have time and wish to bear the pain now a little, not save it all 'til later ... this one will do the same ...

Under such conditions it has no method of determining the cause of such things -- whether issuing from 3d world and its denizens or from its own mind confusing things or from the Abyss -- it knows only it perceives harm intended and it flees.

I seek the understanding of the reconciliation and my role in it, same as you, and at this time I see some things not all... we can then share , or go our own ways to meet again later on... but do not let those who have mistaken ideas for a while come between our knowing what the other knows ... you know there is freedom, it is only a matter of how much pain and when one faces the 'fire' of God's truth...

Not before shrouding itself of course.

I know that you will disappear if you want to enough

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Besides the which, the feral has no place in a place of peace. It bes sure to bring trouble soon enough if it stays, for its nature bes chaotic and volatile.

Very well then, but please let us retire a while to private conversation, not here in open forum, and speak... becuase reconciliation has to be eventually, and you have come so far already ,not without cause, not without almost unbearable pain I know, to just turn back again... and feel even worse , but still have to face the pain again eventually .... there is no pain in the end, but Y'shua offers only baptism of fire in perfection of love , even to those who would be saints now in this earth ....
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IXOYE5 · Nov 24, 2007

Moriah_Conquering_Wind said:
that does not change the veracity of its statements. but since it bes not welcome here, it will take itself elsewhere.
walk with virtue, outlanders.

Hiya Moriah!!

Can you share with me what is and how you understand ~virtue~?

This is very important to me if you wish please, answer ok?

FaithfulWife · Nov 24, 2007

Moriah~

Sadly I have no other way of contacting you as all other ways have been blocked but this. I think I may have some ideas why you have cut off all, but I do hope that you do not leave our discussion as you are valuable here.

I offer you a gift to once again pique your interest. I'm sure you will see some of the symbolisms involved and hope you will see hope for some reconciliation with the people here:

Please note the Asherah headband, the bread and wine on Magdalene's side, she is in blue (mind, not just body), their hands in union, and the Mount of Transfiguration-Mt. Tabor. Please consider the meaning of all these symbols that I'm sure you are familiar with.

I offer this as a gift to you as a gift of friendship once again. I offer it as a visual image of what I hope is happening here--Y'shua and Magdalene in unity--openly, lovingly and respectfully talking.

~Faithful

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Nov 24, 2007

stranger said:
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Can this not be a beginning to the reconciliation, can we not bear that much pain , we two alone if necessary ?[/FONT]

So be it, but the old rules apply: NO TORTURE.

IXOYE5 · Nov 24, 2007

Moriah and stranger sorry for the interuption,

Moriah, I believe Stranger in sincere what he speaks to her. If you wish to take to heart what I said, for I speak from my heart to a friend!

FaithfulWife · Nov 24, 2007

I am not laughing at your pain--that would be a meanie! But I admit I'm laughing at your bluntness.

We are in agreement--NO TORTURE!

stranger · Nov 24, 2007

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Moriah_Conquering_Wind said:
So be it, but the old rules apply: NO TORTURE.

I can hardly say how pleased I am at your decision and I am sad for my mistaken idea that we were ready to face the world .

No TORTURE is sought by this one, but I do make mistakes because this is new ground for me , not that I have not always sought new ground because of the stink of old ground...

I do not say this will not hurt both of us most terribly , only that the end is no pain any longer , whenever that will be , with the One...

You are an adventurer as I , and not truly of our own cause , but of His...

Let us seek a little peace then and reflect and then talk some more about what we each can give the other

be assured though there is more pain before it ends and I myself cannot handle all pain that God can give me yet , it is not so yet ... we may perhaps help each other know better how to live with pain in peace ...in trust in His promise of reconciliation of all things created ... This the promise to all of us by Y'shua , the means by which even the Satan in the end is accepted back with the Father as His prodigal son... there is room for us before then ... :-

Revelation 5:13 And, every created thing which was in heaven, and upon the earth, and under the earth, and upon the sea, and, all the things in them, heard I, sayingUnto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb, be the blessing, and the honour, and the glory, and the dominion, unto the ages of ages!

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Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Nov 24, 2007

FaithfulWife said:
Moriah~

Sadly I have no other way of contacting you as all other ways have been blocked but this. I think I may have some ideas why you have cut off all, but I do hope that you do not leave our discussion as you are valuable here.

We had to close those avenues when the sun still burned long and the air bes stifling hot instead of crisp and cold as it bes now, so hot it bes like cotton in the throat. They bes not closed simply from nearby time.

I offer you a gift to once again pique your interest. I'm sure you will see some of the symbolisms involved and hope you will see hope for some reconciliation with the people here:

Please note the Asherah headband, the bread and wine on Magdalene's side, she is in blue (mind, not just body), their hands in union, and the Mount of Transfiguration-Mt. Tabor. Please consider the meaning of all these symbols that I'm sure you are familiar with.

I offer this as a gift to you as a gift of friendship once again. I offer it as a visual image of what I hope is happening here--Y'shua and Magdalene in unity--openly, lovingly and respectfully talking. ~Faithful

it bes wanting to findsy good image to share back but cannot find what it seeks right now. it thanks you though for this thoughtful gift.

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Nov 24, 2007

4Everloved said:
Moriah. I remember searching everywhere. I remember too that as much as I protested, I felt cold and alone inside. I wonder if you are lonely. If you are lonely as I was, I know you could use some friends, and I would like to be one of your friends. Thanks for considering what I say.

The world of humans makesy lonely, and among its inhabitants there bes them what makesy cold as well, what with chills rising inside making it shudder. As lonely as it bes at times, still to come too close into proximity with humans makesy it seek solitude anew often. O'odvaresthai kharethium i'a choroht n'iochthen. Shohqu'un n'iocht n'i'en n'i'est. Arlocht n'i'en-taesc o'odvoth avarim. Many reasons. Too numerous to bear. 7[sup]4[/sup]

if you seek its friending you may have it but know the peril bes your own because of what it bes. this for all.

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Nov 24, 2007

stranger said:
I have written to '4Everloved' since she clearly has no idea whatever of the pain she caused

4EverLoved caused this one no pain. It knowsy not whence that impression bes derived. She simply sought befriending it with a kind heart she has.

stranger · Nov 24, 2007

Moriah_Conquering_Wind said:
4EverLoved caused this one no pain. It knowsy not whence that impression bes derived. She simply sought befriending it with a kind heart she has.

What caused the pain then , unless you have no wish to tell [so we might avoid causing it]

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Nov 24, 2007

You did. Or rather your words.

it means for answering only what transpired here in this thread of recent. it meansy no blaming for all the torture whats been .... shtnom lareves tsap eseht U4/FC ta ereh ti nopu depaeh ylsselicrem

stranger · Nov 24, 2007

Please, I ask the circle to attend to Moriah's prayer, and take it seriously to understand it as well as one might :-

Many here bes afflicted with most horrible demon(s) of all,
them whats they cannot detect for they takesy them to be God.
this one had that before and knows how horrible it bes
and how much torment these ppls be in,
just look at how hard they strive to makesy others miserable.
so please instead of getsy angry with them
please pray for them and pray
for this one daimonizomai to be spared
the fruits of their lies and hostilities
so she too may pray for them and love them
as God commands us to do.

Please then say now if you cannot agree with this prayer, else let us speak with one voice toward reconciliation of ALL things, or this circle be broken by the world ... will you pray with me ?

But if you agree then let us pray for this in the spirit of reconciliation promised by Y'shua [Jesus] Messiah of Israel ,who will establish the true holy priesthood in this world by whose ministry all are redeemed to God through him

Revelation 5:13 And, every created thing which was in heaven, and upon the earth, and under the earth, and upon the sea, and, all the things in them, heard I, saying—Unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb, be the blessing, and the honour, and the glory, and the dominion, unto the ages of ages!

Amen ... Let it be so .

FaithfulWife · Nov 24, 2007

Hi IXOYE5! I see you reading along!

How are you today?? By the way thank you for your kindness and generosity toward me. I was most happy!

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Nov 24, 2007

[bible]Revelation 10:7[/bible]
[bible]Revelation 15:3-4[/bible]

stranger · Nov 24, 2007

Moriah_Conquering_Wind said:
You did. Or rather your words.

it means for answering only what transpired here in this thread of recent. it meansy no blaming for all the torture whats been .... shtnom lareves tsap eseht U4/FC ta ereh ti nopu depaeh ylsselicrem

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Nov 24, 2007

Don't cry.

FaithfulWife · Nov 24, 2007

Finally! I join with stranger for the past pains FC ta ereh ti nopu depaeh ylsselicrem. That is NOT what we are about here, but I can see how it would be unsure of that intent until some time has gone by.

We will try very hard not to trip on our own feet here on this thread.

stranger · Nov 24, 2007

1 Timothy 2:1 ¶ I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

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