No Law = No Transgression = Sin no longer exists

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I am not being ambiguous. Your question was ambiguous, thus my response.

I believe that priests are all equal. There is no "Aaronic priesthood" as opposed to "Melchizedek's priesthood" or otherwise. They are all simply and equally priests. Their ultimate purpose is the same, to worship and glorify YHVH and minister to His people.

YHVH's Law is fixed in my view, so your question as to "WHAT LAW" is irrelevant to my worldview.

I also agree that every jot and tittle of the LAW stands fully secure and fully applicable.

Do you actually believe Jesus and the writings in the Gospels, seeing as how you don't believe Paul?

???

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[ananda]

I also agree that every jot and tittle of the LAW stands fully secure and fully applicable.

Do you actually believe Jesus and the writings in the Gospels ...

I believe Messiah's Words in the Gospels of Matthew and John (primary witnesses), and in Luke and Mark as secondary witnesses.

 

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I believe Messiah's Words in the Gospels of Matthew and John (primary witnesses), and in Luke and Mark as secondary witnesses.

So I presume then you believe Jesus here? I do:

Luke 4:4
And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

(Matthew said basically the same thing)

And of course we all should know that it is WHO'S Word in the Old Testament? God's, right? Every RED LETTER of same is GODS WORD.

Right?

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[ananda]

So I presume then you believe Jesus here? I do:

Luke 4:4
And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

(Matthew said basically the same thing)

And of course we all should know that it is WHO'S Word in the Old Testament? God's, right? Every RED LETTER of same is GODS WORD.

Right?

s

Life comes from YHVH's Word, yes.

 

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Life comes from YHVH's Word, yes.

Was it the Spirit of Christ who spoke Gods Word in the Old Testament?

John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

 

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I had no malicious intent or combativeness behind any of my posts in this thread, nor did I ever possess any negative feelings when I wrote any of my words. I never said "you are wrong" as you claim I state; this is false witness against me. I was simply presenting my own personal perspective of the data as Messiah commanded me to do. I care not if nobody chooses to listen to what I have to say.

On the other hand, as evidenced by your choice of clearly offensive words and statements, I will bow out of this discussion, shake the dust off my feet, and hit the "ignore" button.

(Some might imagine I'm bowing out to "save face" because I have no answer. But the regulars here will witness to the oppositive; they know that I have prayed about and thought out my position for years, and I have and am more than willing to engage anyone in lengthy, civil, debates when there is no name-calling, presumptions, or pettiness.)

For the record I think it is very unreasonable to think any believer could cast aside a single Word of God. It's quite a ridiculous request.

Do Buddhists cast away the words of Buddha? Uh no.

That approach doesn't compute.

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[TannarDarr]

What is so unique about your perspective?

This was to NET, not me????

 

[ananda]

Was it the Spirit of Christ who spoke Gods Word in the Old Testament?

John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

YHVH spoke His Words in the Tanak.

 

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YHVH spoke His Words in the Tanak.

Do you consider the Words of Jesus Christ to be in One Accord with the Words of God of the O.T?

 

[ananda]

For the record I think it is very unreasonable to think any believer could cast aside a single Word of God. It's quite a ridiculous request.

Do Buddhists cast away the words of Buddha? Uh no.

That approach doesn't compute.

s

No Pharisee's words are the Word of God, per Messiah (Mt 16).

 

[ananda]

Do you consider the Words of Jesus Christ to be in One Accord with the Words of God of the O.T?

They emanate from the same person, YHVH, so yes.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I had no malicious intent or combativeness behind any of my posts in this thread, nor did I ever possess any negative feelings when I wrote any of my words. I never said "you are wrong" as you claim I state; this is false witness against me. I was simply presenting my own personal perspective of the data as Messiah commanded me to do. I care not if nobody chooses to listen to what I have to say.

On the other hand, as evidenced by your choice of clearly and extremely offensive words and statements, I will bow out of this discussion, shake the dust off my feet, and hit the "ignore" button.

(Some might imagine I'm bowing out to "save face" because I have no answer. But the regulars here will witness to the opposite; they know that I have prayed about and thought out my position for years, and I have and am more than willing to engage anyone in lengthy, civil, debates when there is no name-calling, presumptions, or pettiness.)

Retreat can sometimes be the better part of valor...live to fight another day.

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM

Mark 6:11 And who soever should not be receiving ye, nor should be hearing ye, going out thence, shake off! the dust/coun <5522> underneath thine feet into a testimony to them.
Amen I AM saying unto ye, it shall be more tolerable to Sodom or Gomorrha in a day of judgment than for that City".
[#5522 used in Revelation 18:19]

Revelation 18:19 And they cast dust/coun <5522> upon their heads and cried-out lamenting and mourning saying "Woe! Woe! the great City, in which are-rich all those having ships in the sea out of her preciousness!
That in one hour She was desolated!

We all here are just......

Kansas - Dust In The Wind - YouTube

 

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They emanate from the same person, YHVH, so yes.

EXCELLENT!

So do you believe Peter's statement here?

1 Peter 1:
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

We still tracking?

?

 

[ananda]

EXCELLENT!

So do you believe Peter's statement here?

1 Peter 1:
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

We still tracking?

?

Yes, Peter's words are Ketuvim. He here correctly identified that we now have liberty and freedom from the bondage of sin, and the grace to do righteousness.

 

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Yes, Peter's words are Ketuvim. He here correctly identified that we now have liberty and freedom from the bondage of sin, and the grace to do righteousness.

Since we appear to be on a roll let's lift Him and His Word up HIGHER...

Do you think Jesus taught these disciples accurately post resurrection?

Luke 24:
25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

???

 

[ananda]

Since we appear to be on a roll let's lift Him and His Word up HIGHER...

Do you think Jesus taught these disciples accurately post resurrection?

Luke 24:
25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

???

I have no opinion on this section of Luke. I do not have a second witness to this Emmaus-road encounter. The event may or may not have happened. But the sentiment is not in disagreement with established Scripture.

 

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I have no opinion on this section of Luke. I do not have a second witness to this Emmaus-road encounter. The event may or may not have happened. But the sentiment is not in disagreement with established Scripture.

I understand and I take the same measures myself, that I prefer multiple witnesses from the text itself that are in accord.

Understanding this then, that the scriptures speak of His Christ, Jesus (and I am not opposed to alternative spellings just so ya know,) do you believe this is what happened to the WORD of GOD?

and I would perhaps warn in advance that this, if this is true, would make a slight change in Word from Spirit/Word to Living Word in FLESH.

Same Word. Then standing on earth, looking us all square in the face:

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Yeah or nay?

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[LittleLambofJesus]

I have no opinion on this section of Luke. I do not have a second witness to this Emmaus-road encounter. The event may or may not have happened. But the sentiment is not in disagreement with established Scripture.

And then you wonder why we can't get the Jews to believe in the Christian NT


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[ananda]

I understand and I take the same measures myself, that I prefer multiple witnesses from the text itself that are in accord.

Understanding this then, that the scriptures speak of His Christ, Jesus (and I am not opposed to alternative spellings just so ya know,) do you believe this is what happened to the WORD of GOD?

and I would perhaps warn in advance that this, if this is true, would make a slight change in Word from Spirit/Word to Living Word in FLESH.

Same Word. Then standing on earth, looking us all square in the face:

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Yeah or nay?

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Yes, I believe that the Torah of YHVH manifested in the form of a man - Yehoshua Messiah. Man and Satan tried to kill that Torah, but it/He is alive.

 

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And then you wonder why we can't get the Jews to believe in the Christian NT
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If I were a Jew I would probably feel the same way. I sure wouldn't leap headlong into some of the confusions we play with here everyday.