New series by Aron Ra: Why there was no Noachian Flood

[Subduction Zone]

His link was made by mortal men which means it's subject to change. I have God's unchanging Word which shows that the changeable assumption is WRONG, incomplete and false in every way, but some people reject God's Truth and worship anything a "so called" scientists spews into the air.

What makes you think that the Bible has not changed? It was not written all at once and parts of it may have been added to even more than a couple of hundred years after Jesus's death. The Bible is a work of man. Think of it this way, your God could not get creation right. He made a flawed creation that he tried to fix and failed according to your mythical beliefs. Now you are claiming that a flawed creation of his wrote a perfect book. Do you not see how that is an unreasonable expectation?

 

[Aman777]

I agree as well. The problem comes from your unevidenced assertion that the way this happened is that the Sons of Adam mated with prehistoric people.

Ah, nothing like denigrating your opponent when you lack evidence for your position.

A lie.

Lots of elements of evolution have been repeated.

Should falsely accusing someone of being a Liar be a violation of TOS? FYI, a Scientific THEORY is NOT perfect but filled with flaws which need correcting. The ToE is totally Incomplete since it CANNOT explain where the FIRST Human appeared. The reason is simple. It was NOT on planet Earth as the false speculations of the ToE presumes. The godless men who dreamed up the ToE forgot about the Flood which totally destroyed Adam's Kosmos. ll Peter 3:6

 

[Queller]

As a child, I used to say that when I grew up I would be an Indian. False assuming that prehistoric people changed into people with modern Human intelligence is just as silly. In order to obtain Adam's superior intelligence, which is like God's, one MUST be born with it. ONLY Adam was created with this superior intelligence. Gen 3:22

What are you talking about? According to Genesis 3:22, Adam obtained his "superior intelligence" from eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. He was not created with it.

Don't you even read the verses you cite?

Prehistoric People who evolved from water naturally, MUST have children with one of Adam's descendants, in order for the children to obtain Adam's unique high intelligence level. Today's Humans are the children and History AGREES and shows that Human civilization on this Earth began some 11k years ago in the mountains of Ararat. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

You keep assuming what you wish to prove. Until you can provide scientific evidence for the claim that "Prehistoric People who evolved from water naturally, MUST have children with one of Adam's descendants, in order for the children to obtain Adam's unique high intelligence level" Your posts are just so much empty posturing.

 

[Queller]

Should falsely accusing someone of being a Liar be a violation of TOS?

If it is a false claim then yes. However, as you very clearly stated

"as the following chart shows. Chimps are less than 1/2 the intelligence level of Humans"

and that chart does NOT show intelligence level but instead shows

"the ratio between actual brain mass and predicted brain mass for an animal of a given size"

It is not a false claim, it is a fact. You lied.

 

[Aman777]

Nope, the Bible disagrees with all sorts of findings of science. The Adam and Eve myth is only the first of them. You make yourself look bad by trying to claim that Genesis agrees with the findings of science while constantly denying science.

And verses out of context do not support your claims.

Learn to read what I posted. Genesis AGREES with EVERY discovery of Science and History BUT does NOT agree with the False ToE. Now, it's your time to identify my objection instead of making wide ranging false accusations about my posts. Science and History MUST agree with Scripture or one MUST keep searching for God's Truth.

 

[Queller]

Sure it is since no scientist can tell us HOW today's Humans obtained the superior intelligence of God.

Define "Intelligence"

Still waiting

 

[Aman777]

Why should we consider your interpretation of God's Word as infallible? Who granted you perfect understanding of the Bible and no one else?

It's due to the fact that I was once an Evol so I know the scientific evidence. ANY person with the increased knowledge of Science today, can read and see that Genesis tells us that God made at least THREE Heavens or Universes. Gen 1:8 and Gen 2:4 He also told us that the first life appeared in WATER. Gen 1:21 AND Meet Luca, the Ancestor of All Living Things

God also tells us that the combination of the sons of God (prehistoric people) and Humans Gen 6:4 makes today's Hybrid Humans who have the DNA of Mitochondrial Eve AND the superior intelligence which ONLY Adam was made with. Gen 3:22 Scientists are confused because they falsely believe that prehistoric people were made BEFORE Adam. They don't know that Adam was made the 3rd Day Gen 2:7 and the sons of God were made from WATER on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21

 

[Subduction Zone]

Learn to read what I posted. Genesis AGREES with EVERY discovery of Science and History BUT does NOT agree with the False ToE. Now, it's your time to identify my objection instead of making wide ranging false accusations about my posts. Science and History MUST agree with Scripture or one MUST keep searching for God's Truth.

But you are wrong again, even though you have to deny all of science to make your false claims about evolution.

We know that there was no Noah's Ark, science disagrees with you on that.

We know that languages evolved in much the same way that people evolved. Science disagrees with you on that.

How far does that take us through Genesis and it has three serious fails already?

And why do you keep linking an article on evolution that merely demonstrates how terribly wrong that you are?

 

[Aman777]

From your link:

"Encephalization quotient (EQ) or encephalization level is a relative brain size measure that is defined as the ratio between actual brain mass and predicted brain mass for an animal of a given size, which theorize approximate intelligence level or cognition of the species."

IOW, this graphic is a representation of the ratio of actual brain mass vs predicted brain mass. It does not show intelligence level as you claimed. You lied.

Ask yourself, Which creature has the highest intelligence level? Is it Humans? Of course it is. I'm sorry that animals don't have the ability to take an I.Q. Test so that we can have more data on the superior intelligence of Humans who are DESTINED to have dominion or rule over ALL other living creatures including Angels. Gen 1:28

 

[Queller]

It's due to the fact that I was once an Evol so I know the scientific evidence. ANY person with the increased knowledge of Science today, can read and see that Genesis tells us that God made at least THREE Heavens or Universes. Gen 1:8 and Gen 2:4 He also told us that the first life appeared in WATER. Gen 1:21 AND Meet Luca, the Ancestor of All Living Things

God also tells us that the combination of the sons of God (prehistoric people) and Humans Gen 6:4 makes today's Hybrid Humans who have the DNA of Mitochondrial Eve AND the superior intelligence which ONLY Adam was made with. Gen 3:22 Scientists are confused because they falsely believe that prehistoric people were made BEFORE Adam. They don't know that Adam was made the 3rd Day Gen 2:7 and the sons of God were made from WATER on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21

The Fact that you claim to have once been an "evol" whatever that is, does not give credence to the idea that your interpretation of the Bible is correct.

I'll just repeat my original questions and see if you actually answer them this time.

Why should we consider your interpretation of God's Word as infallible? Who granted you perfect understanding of the Bible and no one else?

 

[Queller]

Ask yourself, Which creature has the highest intelligence level? Is it Humans? Of course it is. I'm sorry that animals don't have the ability to take an I.Q. Test so that we can have more data on the superior intelligence of Humans who are DESTINED to have dominion or rule over ALL other living creatures including Angels. Gen 1:28

Your claim was that the chart showed that chimps have half the intelligence level of humans. The chart does not show that. Your claim is a lie.

 

[Aman777]

The Bible explicitly states that there is a mountain from which can be seen all the kingdoms of the earth. It doesn't say anything about this mountain being a dream, or a vision, or in a cave with WiFi.

How can I, according to you, "believe according to the Scriptures" if this mountain doesn't exist?

You don't have to believe my word "according to the Scriptures" but instead, the ONE thing Scripture requires for salvation is to believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ, according to the Scriptures: 1Co 15:4 God knows that mortal Humans do not have the Faith to believe a man rose from the dead, so they must ask/pray to Him in order to obtain this saving Faith IMHO.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.

 

[Aman777]

The Bible explicitly states that there is a mountain from which can be seen all the kingdoms of the earth. It doesn't say anything about this mountain being a dream, or a vision, or in a cave with WiFi.

How can I, according to you, "believe according to the Scriptures" if this mountain doesn't exist?

Life has many mountains. One of your's is have faith in God's Holy Word. IMHO

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your claim was that the chart showed that chimps have half the intelligence level of humans. The chart does not show that. Your claim is a lie.

This may be the source of his chart. It is a site called "The Journal of Cosmology". It is merely another false "scientific journal":

Journal of Cosmology

 

[Queller]

You don't have to believe my word "according to the Scriptures" but instead, the ONE thing Scripture requires for salvation is to believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ, according to the Scriptures: 1Co 15:4 God knows that mortal Humans do not have the Faith to believe a man rose from the dead, so they must ask/pray to Him in order to obtain this saving Faith IMHO.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.

I agree. You know what it doesn't say is necessary for salvation? That I must accept Aman777's unique and scientifically unevidenced hypothesis about the earth and the Word of God especially given that it stands in direct contrast to the evidence God left behind in the universe.

So, given that your interpretation of science and Scripture is unnecessary for salvation, why should I care?

 

[Aman777]

What makes you think that the Bible has not changed? It was not written all at once and parts of it may have been added to even more than a couple of hundred years after Jesus's death. The Bible is a work of man. Think of it this way, your God could not get creation right. He made a flawed creation that he tried to fix and failed according to your mythical beliefs. Now you are claiming that a flawed creation of his wrote a perfect book. Do you not see how that is an unreasonable expectation?

The Miracle is that God brought us His Holy Word, perfectly, even though it was passed through the sinful hands of men. God KNEW what it would take to make a perfect physical Heaven and fill it with perfect mankind, made perfect in Christ. He told us the complete HISTORY of His 7 Day creation in the first 34 verses of Genesis What is exciting is that God continues to fill Heaven TODAY, so it's not too late for those who have rejected His Truth. Hurry though, since TODAY is the last Day, since we live today at the end of the present 6th Day/Age. Amen?

 

[Queller]

Life has many mountains. One of your's is have faith in God's Holy Word. IMHO

Could you possibly answer the questions I ask just once, instead of going off on a tangent?

One more time:

The Bible explicitly states that there is a mountain from which can be seen all the kingdoms of the earth. It doesn't say anything about this mountain being a dream, or a vision, or in a cave with WiFi.

How can I, according to you, "believe according to the Scriptures" if this mountain doesn't exist?

 

[Queller]

This may be the source of his chart. It is a site called "The Journal of Cosmology". It is merely another false "scientific journal":

Journal of Cosmology

Thanks. It certainly doesn't support his claim that chimps have half the intelligence level of humans.

 

[Aman777]

What are you talking about? According to Genesis 3:22, Adam obtained his "superior intelligence" from eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. He was not created with it.

Don't you even read the verses you cite?

Here's the verse with my views in black:

Gen 3:22 And the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) said, Behold, the man (Heb-Adam) is become as One of Us, (The Trinity) to know good and evil:

One of the names of God the Trinity is "The Judges". this requires that one know both good and evil in order to Judge between the two. This requires the Superior Intelligence which ONLY God and Adam (Heb-mankind) have. Mankind is like God in that he has the ability which NO innocent animal has and that's the ability to Judge good and evil. This is WHY mankind is destined to have dominion or rule over them when Jesus returns. Gen 1:28

 

[Aman777]

You keep assuming what you wish to prove. Until you can provide scientific evidence for the claim that "Prehistoric People who evolved from water naturally, MUST have children with one of Adam's descendants, in order for the children to obtain Adam's unique high intelligence level" Your posts are just so much empty posturing.

The scientific evidence is inside every Human. We have the superior intelligence which only God and Adam (mankind) have Gen 3:22 AND we also have the DNA of Mitochondrial Eve, a prehistoric woman. Remember that Adam was NEVER on this Planet. He lived and died on the first world which was destroyed in the flood.