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ImperialJohn
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Not wishing to be pedantic as I think you already know what I was driving at but "there is only one day of the week that is the Sabbath" and that is the seventh day of the week (friday sunset to saturday sunset).
It wasn't until the latter part of the first century that there started to be a moving away from the Sabbath day.
We know Jesus died for us, but some say that this all changed when he died.
"Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes." Luke 23:56
Here the women are preparing spices and perfume to put on Jesus body. Remember here that Jesus has died.
"But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment." Luke 23:56
You have to remember that the writer of this book wrote many years after Jesus died, but he is pointing out the Sabbath command right here. And these women who were taught by Jesus while he was alive, they have no new understanding about the Sabbath day.
You can even find more evidence in the Book of Acts that details the beginning of the New Testament Christian Church. Here in the Book of Acts you can get a look at what they were doing in that New Testament Church after Jesus' death.
"As his custom was, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures" Acts 17:2
Paul one of the Apostles is continuing to go into the Synagogue on the Sabbath and preach about G-d and about the Scriptures. There doesn't appear to be any break in the Sabbath in the Bible! The Sabbath continues on and on throughout the pages of your Bible without any major change occurring.
"Every Sabbath he reasoned in the synagogue, trying to persuade Jews and Greeks." Acts 18:4
The interesting thing about this is that there are some Greeks on the scene here. Paul was in Greece at this time and there may have been Jewish synagogues in Greece, but why were these Greeks going to a Jewish synagogue? Why were they not in a church or something else worshipping G-d, worshipping Christ? It seems like the Greeks are following the Jewish lead here in the keeping of the Sabbath day and going and worshipping G-d on that same day!
The Early Christian Church continued to keep the Biblical Sabbath. But slowly over time when you get into the later part of the first century of Christianity you find some Christians moving away from the Sabbath to a Sunday observance. Some of the reasoning behind it had to do with the destruction of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem when the Romans came down hard on them. Many of the Christians who were also observing the Sabbath and holy days were also being persecuted because they worshipped in a similar manner to the Jews of that time. And some of them began to move away from the Sabbath because they were not crazy about being persecuted. Did G-d ever ask you to move away from this Sabbath day? Did Jesus ever say to move away from his Sabbath day? No! Absolutely not. Man said lets move away from the Sabbath and go to Sunday.
Throughout history there have been Christians who have continued to keep the correct day the Sabbath day and there continues to be today.
So there never was any "gentile judaizers" as you called them back then just "gentile judehaters". There were followers of Christ who started to move away from the biblical Sabbath and also reject anything Jewish because of the persecution going on at that time and they were not thrilled about being persecuted by the Romans as the Jews were being.
G-d never said to move away from his holy day however. Later after the first century you start to get a lot of the Church leaders becoming quite anti-semitic with their teachings and moving away from Christ, his apostles and the biblical truth they left.
Tertullian invented the "trinity" as well as the terms "old testament" and "new testament" as he wished to continue the efforts of the Church at that time in the second and third centuries to pull away from its Jewish roots, away from Christ and scripture and into its own doctrine mixed with pagan beliefs due to their racist anti-semitic beliefs contrary to the teaching of Christ and the Bible.
The fourth commandment is quite clear, we are to keep the biblical Sabbath holy and sanctify it. This applies to all people and all nations not just the Jews or Israelites. The Samarians and many other peoples used to always keep the Biblical Sabbath too not just Israelites. There was never any debate about which day to keep holy in these times with the apostles and early church after the cross that's why it was never mentioned that much. It wasn't until after the first century that there started to be a movement away and a rejection of what the Bible says, and what Jesus and his apostles taught.
Who determines what is a sign of orthodoxy for followers of Christ? Catholics or their offshoots like CoE Protestants, Anglicans, Baptists?
I do not believe it appropriate to demote G-ds holy Sabbath day and fourth commandment into a subforum.
John
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I'm thinking we don't need a Sabbath forum. We need a Definitions forum.
