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New fossil shows four-legged fishapod that returned to the water while Tiktaalik ventured onto land

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I don't see a lot of free form " interpreting" of Scrip., or other baloney from the local atheists.
Maybe it's because they don't read what they write?
Estrid said:
This is so freaking simple. IF a person derived his math by reading the Bible he would see that pi is 3.
 
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No wolves in sheep's clothing among the
self professed Christians?
Satan is (said to ) be the master of deceit.
No, there's wolves in sheep's clothing. They make it onto CF occasionally too, but my presence tends to scare them off. ;)
I dont see a lot of free form " interpreting"
of Scrip., or other baloney from the local atheists.
Oh, I do.
 
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No, there's wolves in sheep's clothing. They make it onto CF occasionally too, but my presence tends to scare them off. ;)

Oh, I do.
Be sure to identify such, especially if
they claim it is Truth.
The way certain others, who if not wolves,
for lo, few who may so see themselves are
perforce in practice, but dupes in ye garmet of wool.
 
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Tiktaalik was probably one of the greatest discoveries in the history of paleontology. The story of how that fossil was found is a master class in how different fields of science work together and independanty validate each other. And this appears to be more of the same.
Don't see pictures of the actual fossil
 
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Be sure to identify such, especially if
they claim it is Truth.
The way certain others, who if not wolves,
for lo, few who may so see themselves are
perforce in practice, but dupes in ye garmet of wool.

Yeah, I hear you. I consider racist to be such dupes. They know to steer clear of my woodsman's hatchet.
 
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Yeah, I hear you. I consider racist to be such dupes. They know to steer clear of my woodsman's hatchet.
And the last thing they see before your hatchet reaches them is: MADE IN CHINA.

^_^

(Ahem -- sorry -- carry on.)
 
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New fossil is closely related to other animals that made the transition to land


A new study from the laboratory of University of Chicago paleontologist Neil Shubin, who co-discovered Tiktaalik in 2004, describes a fossil species that closely resembles Tiktaalik but has features that made it more suited to life in the water than its adventurous cousin.

Qikiqtania wakei was small—just 30 inches long—compared to Tiktaalik, which could grow up to nine feet. The new fossil includes partial upper and lower jaws, portions of the neck, and scales. Mostly importantly, it also features a complete pectoral fin with a distinct humerus bone that lacks the ridges that would indicate where muscles and joints would be on a limb geared toward walking on land. Instead, Qikiqtania’s upper arm was smooth and curved, more suited for a life paddling underwater. The uniqueness of the arm bones of Qikiqtania suggest that it returned to paddling the water after its ancestors began to use their appendages for walking.

The name Qikiqtania (pronounced kick-kick-TAN-ee-ya) comes from the Inuktitut word Qikiqtaaluk or Qikiqtani, the traditional name for the region where the fossil site is located. The species designation wakei is in memory of the late David Wake, an eminent evolutionary biologist from the University of California, Berkeley.

Qikiqtania is slightly older than Tiktaalik, but not by much. The team’s analysis of where it sits on the tree of life places it, like Tiktaalik, adjacent to the earliest creatures known to have finger-like digits. But even though Qikiqtania’s distinct pectoral fin was more suited for swimming, it wasn’t entirely fish-like either. Its curved paddle shape was a distinct adaptation, different from the jointed, muscled legs or fan-shaped fins we see in tetrapods and fish today.


refresher on Tiktaalik
According to Qikiqtania - Wikipedia , this fossil dates from the early Frasnian (Late Devonian) stage. This implies an age of about 380-383 million years.
 
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Lol! No. I don't work by the Sweat of my brow. Not anymore.
I wonder why you were so loath to answer my question
about flood, which was the real reason for the ghostwriter
Q., as you perfectly well knew, I didn't want a literal
answer.

Banter is fine but you seem evasive, which is not.

What was it like to have to actually labour?
Sounds dreadful.
 
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I wonder why you were so loath to answer my question
about flood, which was the real reason for the ghostwriter
Q., as you perfectly well knew, I didn't want a literal
answer.

Banter is fine but you seem evasive, which is not.

If you'll excuse me for just a moment: I need to go to the men's room and look in the mirror and see how much loathing is showing on my face...^_^
 
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I wonder why you were so loath to answer my question
about flood, which was the real reason for the ghostwriter
Q., as you perfectly well knew, I didn't want a literal
answer.

Banter is fine but you seem evasive, which is not.

What was it like to have to actually labour?
Sounds dreadful.

It was Sweaty flipping those burgers, for sure! .... but sshhhhh! I know the customers don't want to hear this part. :sorry:
 
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Still evading

When you stop asking loaded questions then we can more fully engage just about any and every ETHICS quadrilemma you'd like to engage. :cool:
 
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