Nervous Republicans See Trump Sinking, and Taking Senate With Him

[KCfromNC]

I'm not going to debate with you over semantics. If you want to believe the polls that's your business, but don't be surprised if they're wrong again, and for the same reasons.

Seems like the kind of post I'd expect if there were no legitimate response to counter what I posted. Oh well, life's like that some times.

 

[KCfromNC]

Democrat are so slow and live in a different alternative reality. Democrat needs to get with the program fast .

Here are the facts

If poll show Trump and GOP not ahead then all polls are fake news.

If poll show Trump and GOP are ahead then , please take that to bank because that is the biblical truth!

And if you are still confused then remember “ Media said Hilary will win landslide but Trump is in white house”.

Also, start a thread any time Rasmussen shows Donald at 50% approval.

Speaking of which, we haven't seem one of those recently. Wonder what's going on?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Also, start a thread any time Rasmussen shows Donald at 50% approval.

Speaking of which, we haven't seem one of those recently. Wonder what's going on?

How Popular Is Donald Trump?

We may have to wait for Donald to shuffle off his mortal coil before he ever tops 50%. #respectforthedeparted

 

[KCfromNC]

How Popular Is Donald Trump?

We may have to wait for Donald to shuffle off his mortal coil before he ever tops 50%. #respectforthedeparted

Wow, look at that barely noticeable blip as people rallied around his inspiring response to a world-wide pandemic.

 

[Paulos23]

Wow, look at that barely noticeable blip as people rallied around his inspiring response to a world-wide pandemic.

And look how fast it went away.

 

[trunks2k]

And look how fast it went away.

During a time of national crisis, a leader should see a big bump in approval and be able to maintain that for a while since, in such situations, people will rally around something that even remotely resembles good leadership. That Trump couldn't accomplish that is, IMO, a very bad sign for him.

 

[TLK Valentine]

And look how fast it went away.

 

[wing2000]

Who do you trust to re-open America?

New Yorkers know...

New York voters overwhelmingly trust Gov. Andrew Cuomo more than they do President Donald Trump to decide when to reopen their state, according to a new Siena College Research Institute poll. Respondents said they trust Cuomo over Trump by a 78-16% margin.

In the poll, Republican and conservative voters also said they prefer the Democratic governor's judgment on the issue to Trump's, with 56% and 57%, respectively, favoring the governor.

....
Cuomo's favorability rating is currently up to an all-time high of 77%, according to the poll. That's a turnaround from just two months ago, when another Siena poll found the governor's approval rating was negative, with 63% of respondents saying he was doing a "fair" or "poor" job. Just over a year ago, a February 2019 poll marked Cuomo's favorability at an all-time low.

Conservative New Yorkers Trust Cuomo Over Trump On State Reopening, Poll Finds

Someone is envious.

 

[rjs330]

During a time of national crisis, a leader should see a big bump in approval and be able to maintain that for a while since, in such situations, people will rally around something that even remotely resembles good leadership. That Trump couldn't accomplish that is, IMO, a very bad sign for him.

That's because we now have a democratic base that no matter what happens wouldn't approve of the president. We have now lost the ability to be objective about anything.

We had a great economy, but that wasn't enough. Black unemployment was down, but that wasn't enough. Unemployment was way low, but that wasn't enough. Income was up, but that wasn't enough. So, no I don't expect a bump.

 

[rjs330]

I do believe the Democrats have failed again. This crises is a prime opportunity for me when to retake the Whitehouse.

The economy crashes (no fault of the president)
We are hit by a pandemic (no fault of the president)

But it's still has an effect. Yet they put up someone like Biden.

Instill think the economy will be the issue the president lives or dies on. If there is no sign he and Congress is able to assist in it moving upward by November he will be out. But if it does begin to move forward he will be back in with Biden as a candidate.

Now if they were able to put someone up who is smart, articulate, a pretty clean background and someone that is more centrist and economically savy they could beat him.

But Biden? His only hope is that the economy gets really really bad and it's seen as Trump's fault.

 

[KCfromNC]

That's because we now have a democratic base that no matter what happens wouldn't approve of the president. We have now lost the ability to be objective about anything.

Lots of projection in this post.

We had a great economy, but that wasn't enough. Black unemployment was down, but that wasn't enough

Looks like the African American community isn't able to be bought like other groups we've seen.

Also, any time I see this kind of claim I'm reminded of the GOP's findings on Russian election interference - Senate Report: Russians Used Social Media Mostly To Target Race In 2016

The Russian government's interference in the 2016 U.S. elections singled out African Americans, a new Senate committee report concludes.


Using Facebook pages, Instagram content and Twitter posts, Russian information operatives working for the Internet Research Agency had an "overwhelming operational emphasis on race ... no single group of Americans was targeted ... more than African Americans." ​

 

[KCfromNC]

I do believe the Democrats have failed again. This crises is a prime opportunity for me when to retake the Whitehouse.

Pro tip - the election isn't until November.

 

[rambot]

That's because we now have a democratic base that no matter what happens wouldn't approve of the president. We have now lost the ability to be objective about anything.

No. Not many democrats had much good to say about Bush but look at what happenned to him after 9/11. His approval rating was ridiculously high....like 84%ish?
This has very little to do with Democrats "being unreasonable".

Again, it's JUST not possible in your mind that Trump is responsible for Trump and the reaction or support he gets or does NOT get hey? Either you have to LOVE him or you don't understand him and that is YOUR fault.

If it is something negative about the president it MUST be someone else's fault.

We had a great economy, but that wasn't enough. Black unemployment was down, but that wasn't enough. Unemployment was way low, but that wasn't enough. Income was up, but that wasn't enough. So, no I don't expect a bump.

It always seems so hard to convince people that there is more to leadership than a "robust" economy. Had the US been a business he would have thrust that into bankruptcy too by drying up revenue streams and still spend like a crazy man on things that make his base happy and not things that increase, improve or maintain quality of life.

 

[rjs330]

No. Not many democrats had much good to say about Bush but look at what happenned to him after 9/11. His approval rating was ridiculously high....like 84%ish?
This has nothing to do with Democrats "being unreasonable".

Again, it's JUST not possible in your mind that Trump is responsible for Trump and the reaction or support he gets or does NOT get hey? Either you have to LOVE him or you don't understand him and that is YOUR fault.

If it is something negative about the president it MUST be someone else's fault.
It always seems so hard to convince people that there is more to leadership than a "robust" economy. Had the US been a business he would have thrust that into bankruptcy too by drying up revenue streams and still spend like a crazy man on things that make his base happy and not things that increase, improve or maintain quality of life.

Times have changed. We've become more divided.

This pandemic is an example. Fauci is telling us not to be too concerned about the disease Feb 15. But Trump totally failed because he didn't do something in January.

Trump closes travel from China and he's a racist. Now he didn't close it sooner or enough. Unemployment down? No credit. Income up? No credit. Black employment down? No credit. Pulling out of nuclear deal. No credit. Pulling back on finding to get other countries to pay more of their share in NATO no credit.

Sorry but objectivity is gone.

 

[rjs330]

Pro tip - the election isn't until November.

Yep and I've outlined how Dems win. Like you said election isn't until November.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Unemployment down? No credit. Income up? No credit. Black employment down? No credit.

All that was happening pre-Donald, but you weren't allowed to give credit to his predecessor.

Donald kept good trends going, and for that, he might have earned some measure of credit -- if not for his continual insistence that he (falsely) was the source of such prosperity.

But Donald cannot acknowledge his predecessor in any positive way -- thus, neither can you.

Pulling out of nuclear deal. No credit.

"Credit" is generally given when a person does something wise, prudent, or generally, you know... a good idea.

Pulling back on finding to get other countries to pay more of their share in NATO no credit.

Probably because those nations had already promised to pay their required share (2% of their GDP) by the year 2024. Donald threw a tantrum and made threats in order to get other countries to promise (again) what they had already promised to do before.

Perhaps that's deserving of "credit" -- but I'm not seeing how.

Sorry but objectivity is gone.

One wonders if it ever existed.

 

[TLK Valentine]

That's because we now have a democratic base that no matter what happens wouldn't approve of the president. We have now lost the ability to be objective about anything.

Donald's predecessor had a Republican base who didn't approve of him under any circumstances either. Yet that president enjoyed a popularity which Donald has yet to match -- a fact which had outraged Donald to no end in the past.

Perhaps Donald is unliked because he's unlikable?

We had a great economy, but that wasn't enough. Black unemployment was down, but that wasn't enough. Unemployment was way low, but that wasn't enough. Income was up, but that wasn't enough. So, no I don't expect a bump.

And not so much as a "thank you" to the man who set it all in motion...

 

[mark46]

I have come to the view in recent days that Biden will probably win by enough of a margin to switch the Senate to the Dems. For the good of the Party, Trump could announce that he will not run again. If the Party would nominate Gov. Hogan, they might have a chance of winning.

More likely is that the president will postpone the election for a year or two when the second wave comes in the fall.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That's because we now have a democratic base that no matter what happens wouldn't approve of the president. We have now lost the ability to be objective about anything.

We had a great economy, but that wasn't enough. Black unemployment was down, but that wasn't enough. Unemployment was way low, but that wasn't enough. Income was up, but that wasn't enough. So, no I don't expect a bump.

Not true, and the economy was recovering long before Trump was elected. It is hard to credit Trump with the economy. What we normally see during times of crisis is unified support for the President. After 911 President Bush was roughly at 90% approval rating. Trump had a boost but he squandered it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

More likely is that the president will postpone the election for a year or two when the second wave comes in the fall.

Hopefully not. At least in the past when the President has gone too far off the rails his handlers have managed to pull him back to reality eventually.