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hi I don't know where to post this but... I think about killing myself a lot mainly because of the suffering in this world..

I'm very sorry to hear this.
I understand about all the suffering, and it being overwhelming. But your suicide might actually increase the suffering - I am sure friends and family would not only be sad that you had done this, but feel guilty/tormented that they hadn't seen the signs and been able to stop you.

I'm suffering a lot but i know I need to show grace and not be disgraceful to God...

God does know exactly how much suffering and evil there is in his world, he knows how long it is going to last and what he is going to do about it - if that's any comfort. He has experienced suffering, rejection, evil and so on, when he came to earth, in Jesus - and he also knows exactly what you are thinking, feeling and going through.

I try to be strong but it's really bad...

You don't need to be strong all on your own though.
Have you seen a doctor about this? Seriously; you could be clinically depressed or have some other condition that is making you feel this way. There are also people you can talk to; counsellors, Christian listeners, the Samaritans.

.I understand Jesus has saved us from our sins and I am beyond grateful for that therefore I can show my face to God yet I feel so much suffering...

Your own, or other people's?
If your own, you can get help with that. If other people's; I don't want to belittle what your are going through - it's horrid when we feel helpless and can't take someone's suffering away - but in a way this might be a positive thing. You will be terrific at empathising with people, and may even know exactly what to pray for them.

and some people suffer all their life

Sadly, that may be true - yes. Which is why we all need to do all that we can to alleviate suffering and show them that they are not alone and that someone cares. It's awful feeling that no one cares - I've had that in a very minor way when I couldn't get to an event that I said I'd be at, and no one has phoned/been round to check that I'm ok. They might not have been able to do anything - just as you might not be able to - but saying "I haven't forgotten; I'm here, can I help?" can be enormously comforting.

..is suicide a sentence to hell

No.
 
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I feel like I'm meant to suffer .....

Why? If you don't mind me asking.
Because of low self esteem/a feeling that you deserve to be punished, or some other reason?
 
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Kill yourself and you will spend and eternity in horror

No.

Earnestly seek your Maker for knowledge in how to stand in victory in tribulations and sufferings. They can be a cause to push you into his arms or away; Your choice.

Except that if someone is clinically depressed, (I don't know if the OP is, just saying) they will doubtless not want, or be able to, read the Bible and spend time in prayer. We don't know what kind of suffering they are going through.
 
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hi I don't know where to post this but... I think about killing myself a lot mainly because of the suffering in this world...I'm suffering a lot but i know I need to show grace and not be disgraceful to God...I try to be strong but it's really bad...I understand Jesus has saved us from our sins and I am beyond grateful for that therefore I can show my face to God yet I feel so much suffering...I experienced happiness so I know what it is what it feels like but suffering is greater and some people suffer all their life ,..why....help I can't take it all sometimes....is suicide a sentence to hell

Let me tell you from a person who is currently going through a predictable fluctuating biochemical change that can vastly change how he sees the world, including his thoughts: suicide is rarely brought on just by seeing the world as a negative place. I'd highly recommend getting your thyroid hormones (free T3, free T4, TSH, antibodies), sex hormones (free and total testosterone, estradiol, LH and FSH), maybe adrenal hormones (ACTH, cortisol, DHEA-S), and a nutrition panel (e.g., Nutreval) to check for basic deficiencies that contribute to depression (like B12, folate, etc.), and even genetic testing to check for important polymorphisms (semi-mutations) like MTHFR that can affect how your body works.

And no, it's far from always "just" about neurotransmitters, which are themselves regulated by hormones and other chemical processes mentioned above. But it might be worth a shot to try an SSRI if you have obsessive or ruminative thinking (serotonin governing how we think as well as well-being), an NRI (norepinephrine-reuptake inhibitor) if you have low-energy depression, and/or a dopamine agonist or SDRI (selective dopamine reuptake inhibitor) if you have low-pleasure depression. With this and the above paragraph, work with your doctor, and you might need to Google functional medicine, anti-aging, or naturopathic doctors to get the full testing you need (the MD profession is mostly dumb when it comes to getting to the roots of stuff).

I'm not saying you have a biochemistry that predicts your depression. Maybe it's based in the view you have of the world. In which case I'd recommend looking into schema therapy (ignore the stuff on personality disorders and pay special attention to the schema definitions, and if you self-rate or agree highly with any, I'd recommend the book Reinventing Your Life). A good therapist is also helpful.

Whether psychogenic or physiogenic (psychological or physiological in origin, respectively), there's treatment out there.
 
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There are a few points I would like to make.

1. Wanting to commit suicide is almost always the resul of mental illness. Whether this is depression from not being able to cope with events in life or another illness it is not right to want to do this. Anyone who is suicidal should seek immediate medical and spiritual help.

2. Is your life really so bad as to make you feel like this? I had a particularly bad chilhood, suffering violence and psychological abuse. I have only ever met one person in my life who I would say definitely had a worse life than me and i have spoken to people who suffered violence, sexual abuse, etc who's lives overall had less suffering than mine. I grew up never knowing love and always fearful of suffering constant verbal abuse which would lead to violence on an almost daily basis, if not from my dad it was from my older brothers. This also lead to psycological problems which meant I was bullied and abused at school. One of my brothers who also suffered this to some degree (but less than me, he was older so did the same to me and I was bottom of the chain) has already commited suicide.

3. Is this spiritual attack/demonic? There can be an element of demonic attack in mental illness and you need to fight that in the spirit as well as in the physical (medical treatment). Read your bible daly for as long as you can, pray for relief from whatever is causing this and submit yourself to God.

Are you born again? When I became a Christian and was born again my life was turned around. I turned away from the drink and drugs I used to cope with my past. I am now relatively normal with a family of my own. I have sen psychologists a couple of times in my life, choosing Christian ones where I can. I have forgven the people responsible for the abuse, which is a must to move on from it.

I am a little shocked at the responses from most people on here. Medical help is a must do and straight way. Also speak to your pastor about it. It takes bravery to seek the help you need but you need to di it,. If I can do it with my past I'm sure you can, I was completely closed and could not tell anyone anything for fear of ridicule. If you suffer like that I suggest you say to yourself that you WILL do it, maybe your pastor would be a good start. Ask for some time alone and when you get there just blurt it our, For me it meant fear of rejection, a heart rate of about 150, wanting to run and hide or just hide the truth, but when it comes out there will be some relief. I now find being open and talking about y past helps me cope with it and if I can use ot to help other peolpe at least something good can come out of it.

Edit: I want to add that I'm not trying to say my life is worse than yours so you shouldnt be as bad as me. Suffering is suffering. There are a lot of people who suffer worse than I did, such as the Christians in ISIS and other places they are persecuted. The point is if you suffer from suicidal thoughts for any reason it can be turned around. I take the view that it is not the severity of what causes it, but the severity of the symotoms that is most important in deciding how bad it is.
 
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but don't fully understand why humans were made

I think all this is a test because if not, then God is either evil or limited (not all-powerful).

I've also been suicidal at time due to this fundamental issues that actually affects me literally like poverty.

But the truth is that the world is evil - 1 John 5:19

And this is likely to be the sentiment of Jesus Christ:

Was Jesus nice to everyone?

And it's perfectly normal to be sorrowful - Luke 6:20-26.

So I won't give you the advice to turn your frown upside down but rather commend you for seeing these things!

You are better for you choose to see and feel these things instead of showing indifference.
 
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hi I don't know where to post this but... I think about killing myself a lot mainly because of the suffering in this world...I'm suffering a lot but i know I need to show grace and not be disgraceful to God...I try to be strong but it's really bad...I understand Jesus has saved us from our sins and I am beyond grateful for that therefore I can show my face to God yet I feel so much suffering...I experienced happiness so I know what it is what it feels like but suffering is greater and some people suffer all their life ,..why....help I can't take it all sometimes....is suicide a sentence to hell

First off, I am sorry to hear that your are going through so hard struggles. Please do not harm yourself. Know that whatever you are going through, that God is right there with you and He will never abandon you. Suicide is not of God and you may be under tremendous spiritual attack right now.

Secondly, you are need of Pastoral Counseling as soon as possible. If you do not have a Pastor who provides biblical counseling, ask him to refer you to someone who can counsel you with God's truth. Depression and suffering are very real things, and you are need of help.

I will be praying for you, that God of all peace will comfort you and you will know His presence right here and now and bring you out of the darkness and into His light.
 
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hi I don't know where to post this but... I think about killing myself a lot mainly because of the suffering in this world...I'm suffering a lot but i know I need to show grace and not be disgraceful to God...I try to be strong but it's really bad...I understand Jesus has saved us from our sins and I am beyond grateful for that therefore I can show my face to God yet I feel so much suffering...I experienced happiness so I know what it is what it feels like but suffering is greater and some people suffer all their life ,..why....help I can't take it all sometimes....is suicide a sentence to hell
Hello :) I've been there, I know the feelings of hopeless despair that result from living within my own self centered head and forgetting that I can serve others to lesson their suffering as a way to get out of thinking about myself.

Sometimes my thinking doesn't serve me very well....so I exchange it for the thinking of God. I imagine myself sitting at the foot of the cross, looking up at Jesus and telling him how difficult life is. And he smiles and says "like yea, tell me about it."

You could off yourself, but what does that solve??? What about the other people who need you that you might save having overcome this obstacle???

Jesus says "follow me". That's the answer. Forget your own solutions and exchange that for a new way of thinking and acting.

Big hugs to-ya. And Merry Christmas. We will soon celebrate the giving nature of a God who came down from glory and lived the life that we are called to live. He triumphed over the evil, error and suffering of this world. He lived his entire life on the cross of human experience. He knows rejection, he knows misunderstanding, he knows cruelty and he knows suffering!!!!
 
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hi I don't know where to post this but... I think about killing myself a lot mainly because of the suffering in this world...I'm suffering a lot but i know I need to show grace and not be disgraceful to God...I try to be strong but it's really bad...I understand Jesus has saved us from our sins and I am beyond grateful for that therefore I can show my face to God yet I feel so much suffering...I experienced happiness so I know what it is what it feels like but suffering is greater and some people suffer all their life ,..why....help I can't take it all sometimes....is suicide a sentence to hell
Come on! Why would you want to commt suicide when you can rule the world being the kind and loving king or queen. hahahahahahahahahahaha
 
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To Skylar

All advises given here are good, fair, and helpful, and I would like to add something from myself and say that no matter from what kind of thing we are suffering from only the Lord can bring relief.

In good times and in bad times turning to the Lord with your heart and with your soul will definitely have positive effect and result.

Just recently I discussed the Book of Job with Brinni, and I think that this Book is universal to all the suffering in the world. Looking at the Job’s affliction and his stand toward GOD it revealed to us that actually it is humanly possible to be like him.

Job withstand physical, emotional, psychological, and spiritual pain, with great faith in the Lord and with strong hope for in His coming redemption for him.

Job knew very well that our life is one necessary test by which GOD tests people of the Earth, and whoever passes the tests will receive great rewards. Endurance on our part is absolutely essential for us to pass such test.

We tested in many different ways, and for us in order to pass it only one remedy can work better than anything else, it is the prayer to the Lord and learning His Word, means the Bible.

It seems to me you have psychological and spiritual problem and the drugs if they help, usually leave a terrible side effect, sometimes worst that the illness itself. So I believe that the spiritual or psychological suffering only spiritual context of the Bible can heal.

Take a look at the Book of Job and see how much he suffered, not mention the prophets and the men of GOD whose entire Earth was not deserved.

When I get depressed or is something wrong with me or my life, the Bible is only help and relief I have, because it has answers on all our questions and problems. And when you study and learn the Holy Scriptures, the Lord GOD is always not far away.

So, try my “remedy” it might work better than anything else. Read the Book of Job and be like him.

Good luck, and let the Lord help you and bless you.

Alex
 
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hi I don't know where to post this but... I think about killing myself a lot mainly because of the suffering in this world...I'm suffering a lot but i know I need to show grace and not be disgraceful to God...I try to be strong but it's really bad...I understand Jesus has saved us from our sins and I am beyond grateful for that therefore I can show my face to God yet I feel so much suffering...I experienced happiness so I know what it is what it feels like but suffering is greater and some people suffer all their life ,..why....help I can't take it all sometimes....is suicide a sentence to hell

Don't even think about suicide. You know God has put you here for a purpose. And that purpose is that you should spread love to everyone through Christ. You are blessed with faith. Try not focus so much on all the terrible things that happen in the world, but instead focus on how you can be an inspiration to people around you. Pray for people, pray for the world. Know that God has taken care of everything at the cross. It's done! We just don't see it yet. Take courage my friend, Jesus loves you and he wants you to work for him here on Earth. That's why he put you here. I will pray for you.
 
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Offer up 'all' of your sufferings to God. Mental and physical. From morning to night and through the night. Offer them up in place of those that suffer in this world.

Jesus said to pick up your cross and follow Him.
 
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HI Thanks I'm so thankful to people who pray for people they don't even know so I truly appreciate it...I feel like when I talk to people that even say "you can talk to me if you need someone " don't listen or understand...only God could understand but I'm ashamed of my messy life...I understand I have this purpose but I believe my purpose is painful but I have to withstand it and it's hard....I just don't understand why some people have to suffer s much for their life. For instance a child born that is a abused for years until they die at like one or two years old and others that suffer for a lifetime etc..I'm so sad and scared and I want to show grace to my Lord but I feel so down I can't understand how to show I'm strong but don't fully understand why humans were made

:heart: It is not you or me who is strong, dear heart, it is GOD Who strengthens us. It is HE Who is strong, not us. Tragedy IS hard to comprehend. God understands our pain and tragedies and the heart-wrenching injustices you describe. Have you ever heard of Corrie Ten Boom?

Praying, precious (((hug)))
 
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I feel like I'm meant to suffer .....and I want to be happy so bad
We Catholics have a saying. "Offer it up." Try that. Offer your sufferings to Jesus for the sake of someone else who needs your prayers.

Suffering is not such a strange thing. At one level or another it's pretty normal for humanity. Happiness happens, but it is not an end in itself. Nor is it reasonable to expect to be happy a majority of the time. Once in a while is about as good as it gets. If you are never happy, you should seek treatment for depression. I've been there. It helps.

Joy is another matter. A sorrowful Christian can have joy. It's kind of paradoxical. One can be depressed and have a joy in your savior. Seek that over happiness. Your suffering, offered up, can bring you joy.

I'll be praying for you, and if you can, pray for me and for those in need.
 
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I feel like I'm meant to suffer .....and I want to be happy so bad
I felt this way so long...you can even look at my blogs to see what kind of mindset I had towards god, myself and my expectations for my life... I had an epiphany when I finally realized God is truly good... And that thread is in the depression forums titled, is god truly good.

I experienced so much set back that I naturally had very little hope..but all I know is that if I give up..if you give up..it seals your fate forever... You will never get better, your life will never change and you'll never get the answers you're looking for . At least as long as you're alive there's hope for change...and life is unpredictable so..your life can change in an instant...and if you never give up and keep trying your life will change eventually. I know how you feel..there is a light at the end of the tunnel... Fixing negative thoughts help more than you know..your thoughts can either push you over the edge or keep you from it.

Please stay with us.. And u can msg me anytime.
 
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i lost my step dad to suicide he was ill and walked out the house at 7 am got on a bus and jumped from a bridge a bridge i have to go over everyday we where devastated my whole family was ...its was 5 years ago and we still cant get over it family members have been taking drugs or and are mentally ill my niece has a 2 years old that will never meet there great granddad please dont do this please call some one its not just your life it effects it effects everyone
please call a crisis line or go to hospital
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Hello Skylar,

Suicide is not the answer. There is always hope if you lean on God and trust Him to help get you through. There will be a day in the future where you will be glad you are alive to do God's will on earth.

It is God who numbers our days, and it's the enemy who wishes to cut those days short. Don't let the devil push you around. Go to God and pour out your heart. Weep at His feet, and do your best to leave those worries there, and continue on knowing Father God has a plan for you.

Beyond this, there are some practical issues that are really hurting the church these days related to manipulation and witchcraft. If you are caught up in a church that uses witchcraft to manipulate the congregation, you can suffer a lot unecessarily for it. Breaking free from such influences can lift up the attacks, anxiety, and feelings of hopelessness.

You can learn more about what's going on in these churches here:
How to get free.
 
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