Needing Support

[Basil Isaacks]

Are you physically ill?

I suffer from diabetes and clinical depression. In retrospect, I suffered from the latter from my childhood. I'd try to talk about these feelings I had, and all I'd get at the time was, "That's horrible! You shouldn't feel that way."

It was not until my 50's that I learned that clinical depression is a MEDICAL ISSUE, and not a spiritual or moral failure. It took a while to get the right meds, but I take my "happy pill" every day and thank God for His provision for me.

There are some diseases that can imitate CD--diabetes is one. I'm not a doctor, and I'm not presuming to diagnose you.

There IS help available for these issues. My sincere prayer is that God will lead you to what you need.

 

[slippinginfaith]

hi I don't know where to post this but... I think about killing myself a lot mainly because of the suffering in this world...I'm suffering a lot but i know I need to show grace and not be disgraceful to God...I try to be strong but it's really bad...I understand Jesus has saved us from our sins and I am beyond grateful for that therefore I can show my face to God yet I feel so much suffering...I experienced happiness so I know what it is what it feels like but suffering is greater and some people suffer all their life ,..why....help I can't take it all sometimes....is suicide a sentence to hell

that sucks. i feel like that too sometimes but don't give in. talk to me if you ever need a friend!

 

[Michael Scaman]

hi I don't know where to post this but... I think about killing myself a lot mainly because of the suffering in this world...I'm suffering a lot but i know I need to show grace and not be disgraceful to God...I try to be strong but it's really bad...I understand Jesus has saved us from our sins and I am beyond grateful for that therefore I can show my face to God yet I feel so much suffering...I experienced happiness so I know what it is what it feels like but suffering is greater and some people suffer all their life ,..why....help I can't take it all sometimes....is suicide a sentence to hell

Please don't.

Jesus; job description includes healing the brokenhearted, it might take time but hang in there.

Enjoyment and Suffering does not 'end' at death and now is the time to invest your heart in things you will 'enjoy' forever. Hang in there and it may be in a little while the darkness might lift

For what it's worth here are a few ideas... here is a video for you to listen to from a lady named Joni who was suicidal after a serious accident but is not satisfied and enjoying life Hope: The Best of Things | Desiring God There is also a video...

Also sometimes it helps listening or reading about people from other ages who went through difficult times and endured. You might find some good biographies One biography is a person who struggled with depression his whole life... William Cowper, the friend of the author of Amazing Grace, John Newton. Insanity and Spiritual Songs in the Soul of a Saint | Desiring God

Lastly some enjoy reading the book of consolation Issiah chapter 40 on or just reading the Psalms...

Find support in friends and a good church and make sure you get enough sleep and exercise and if its a long term pattern definitely get a doctor's help

 

[Monk Brendan]

yet I feel so much suffering...I experienced happiness so I know what it is what it feels like but suffering is greater and some people suffer all their life

I do understand how you are feeling. I have suffered from Clinical Depression almost all of my life. I have thought about killing myself more than once--as a matter of fact, it has been a lot of times.

First, don't let anyone tell you that you don't need medicine, all you need is Jesus. That is a lie from the pit of hell. I know from my own personal experience that you need some sort of help. Maybe you need some counseling (I don't know about that.)

But remember a couple of things.
1. God does love you, and He created you for a purpose.
2. Clinical depression is not sin. Killing yourself is, but I am not going to worry about that.
3. Clinical depression is a disease. It is an imbalance of chemicals in your brain. By working with a doctor, the both of you will be able to find a solution that will work.

It has been over 20 years since I was diagnosed, and the time since then has been the most precious time in my life. I have grown so much in love with Christ, and the people around me.

Again, I do understand. You feel the suffering of the world on your shoulders. The only thing that you can do is pray. I use the local and national news as a means of prayer. When I hear that some one is hurt, or has been killed, I ask God to have mercy upon that person--or in the case of someone being killed, I ask for God to have mercy on that person's soul. God, being outside of time, can hear that prayer before that person dies, and help to rescue him or her from the fires of hell.

Don't give up. Don't give in to temptation or the condemnation when someone tells you you only need Jesus.

I need Jesus, and He has given me a way to control the chemical imbalance in my brain

God Bless you, and Merry Christmas.

 

[Monk Brendan]

Come on! Why would you want to commt suicide when you can rule the world being the kind and loving king or queen. hahahahahahahahahahaha

This is cruelty. If you can do nothing else, pray for him, instead of egging him on to violence against himself or others.

 

[tienkhoanguyen]

This is cruelty. If you can do nothing else, pray for him, instead of egging him on to violence against himself or others.

Jesus Christ! Bless GOD, Jesus Christ, Mary, and The Holy Spirit# Then bless my real mom Huong Thi Vu. Honours to my real mom Huong Thi Vu and my real dad Nguyen Binh Thuy. Congratulations to my real two sisters Nguyen Khoa Thuyen and Nguyen Khoa Thi. First of all, it is Christmas!!! Jesus came to save the world (every single person). So when I go through a period that is down there is a reason. I just lost at least 9 people in my life to old age and cancer etc. It doesn't mean it's the end of the world. Someone once talked about Job being tested by... When Job lost all their love ones the quote is "GOD I continue to believe in you!" to GOD. In Heaven GOD returned all back!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nothing is guaranteed in life. Jesus Christ says when you die you have eternal life and that is what is to hope for. Live your life the best you can. I just read an article that says the top five items people about to die regretted. Don't worry about the little things.

Look what you have now in your hands and be grateful to GOD#

 

[Monk Brendan]

Nothing is guaranteed in life. Jesus Christ says when you die you have eternal life and that is what is to hope for. Live your life the best you can. I just read an article that says the top five items people about to die regretted. Don't worry about the little things.

Look what you have now in your hands and be grateful to GOD#

Oh, I do bless God every day for all of the ways He helps me every day. I know that I have to count on Him for every breath I take, every beat of my heart.

But laughing hysterically at someone who is feeling depressed and thinking of suicide is not the way to make him feel loved.

 

[AACJ]

No.



Except that if someone is clinically depressed, (I don't know if the OP is, just saying) they will doubtless not want, or be able to, read the Bible and spend time in prayer. We don't know what kind of suffering they are going through.

Hi. Your post implies that God's prevenient grace is not sufficient to provide complete accountability. Of course that implication is wrong. Any and all ending up in hell will have received revelation sufficient to keep them out.

In addition, you should not assume that I or anyone else reading this forum have not endured sufferings equal to or exceeding that of the OP in terms of quantity or quality. I am intimately familiar with lifes sorrows.

 

[AACJ]

I'm not sure I would tell someone this even if I believed it fully. Eternal damnation is such a weird concept. It is beyond comprehension.

If you truly believed in Hell, then certainly you would warn others.

What, if you see a blind man walking down a road and headed for a a bottomless pit you would not warn them?

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

I'm not sure I like "fear" as a motivating factor to convince people to become better Christians. If I obey God's commandments more out of fear than love, I may be a good foot soldier, but I don't think that goes to the heart of the Gospel message.

 

[AACJ]

I'm not sure I like "fear" as a motivating factor to convince people to become better Christians. If I obey God's commandments more out of fear than love, I may be a good foot soldier, but I don't think that goes to the heart of the Gospel message.

Do you fear the consequences of rejecting Christ or his instruction? I do. Godly fear is all through Scripture and an entirely appropriate motivating factor. There is certainly more than one kind of Scripturaly supported motivations found throughout Scripture. However, Scripture also makes it very clear that our primary motivation is the Love of God.

There is of course a difference between Godly fear and fear rooted in rebellion. It is surprising to find that Godly fear is abundantly taught throughout Scripture in relation to everything from gaining wisdom to understanding holiness.
Please look through the attachment.

 

[Strong in Him]

Hi. Your post implies that God's prevenient grace is not sufficient to provide complete accountability. Of course that implication is wrong. Any and all ending up in hell will have received revelation sufficient to keep them out.

No, I was disagreeing with your statement that someone who commits suicide will suffer horror for all eternity. I don't believe there is any Scripture which teaches that suicides go to hell. A lot of them are in hell anyway when they decide to end their lives.

In addition, you should not assume that I or anyone else reading this forum have not endured sufferings equal to or exceeding that of the OP in terms of quantity or quality. I am intimately familiar with lifes sorrows.

I didn't.
I said that we don't know what kind of suffering the OP is talking about.
It might be their own physical pain, it might be helplessness/despair at the evil in the world - and they might also be clinically depressed. If the latter, then this needs treatment, not statements about going to hell.
If depression is one of the things you have experience of, you no doubt know that saying "just read your Bible" doesn't cut it.

 

[John 1720]

hi I don't know where to post this but... I think about killing myself a lot mainly because of the suffering in this world...I'm suffering a lot but i know I need to show grace and not be disgraceful to God...I try to be strong but it's really bad...I understand Jesus has saved us from our sins and I am beyond grateful for that therefore I can show my face to God yet I feel so much suffering...I experienced happiness so I know what it is what it feels like but suffering is greater and some people suffer all their life ,..why....help I can't take it all sometimes....is suicide a sentence to hell

Dear Skylar,
I am in prayer for you but please call a hotline and talk to someone. I am not a professional councilor but I do know that you need someone behind you that will be a Godsend to help you. Remember even Elijah wanted to throw in the towel but God restored him at his weakest point when he was saying what's the use. You need to be heard and supported through your crisis and get direction and help. I'm not sure if you have any numbers to call already but just in case I did see this chat line that may help you start the process.
Suicide - Chatnow
just scroll down and click chat when you need to or call the national hotline.

I pray you can get the help you need; if not from the organization I listed perhaps another hotline. There are many of them but perhaps you can at least start the process. Let us know if you are ok and may God bless you, Pat

 

[Dorothea]

It would be nice if Skylar would come back on so that everyone knows that he/she is all right. Prayers for Skylar.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Do you fear the consequences of rejecting Christ or his instruction? I do. Godly fear is all through Scripture and an entirely appropriate motivating factor. There is certainly more than one kind of Scripturaly supported motivations found throughout Scripture. However, Scripture also makes it very clear that our primary motivation is the Love of God.

There is of course a difference between Godly fear and fear rooted in rebellion. It is surprising to find that Godly fear is abundantly taught throughout Scripture in relation to everything from gaining wisdom to understanding holiness.
Please look through the attachment.

I'm quite prepared to admit, you have a much deeper understanding than I do on this topic. (Godly fear).
I had a quick read of your pdf file. It seems quite complex and nuanced.
Therefore it is something I need to learn more about in order to deepen my faith. Thanks.

 

[Blade]

hi I don't know where to post this but... I think about killing myself a lot mainly because of the suffering in this world...I'm suffering a lot but i know I need to show grace and not be disgraceful to God...I try to be strong but it's really bad...I understand Jesus has saved us from our sins and I am beyond grateful for that therefore I can show my face to God yet I feel so much suffering...I experienced happiness so I know what it is what it feels like but suffering is greater and some people suffer all their life ,..why....help I can't take it all sometimes....is suicide a sentence to hell

I take authority over the spirit of suicide and command it to leave you in Jesus name.

Your asking something no one can answer.. the enemy has lied to you. Your life here is for a reason. Skylar.. JESUS IS REAL!... I Know what its like to be in that room so to speak. Its a darkness so thick... but JESUS IS REAL! I know what it CAN look like but what you dont see is the Father of light.. of our Lord JESUS Christ has something for you that only you can do. So.. let that darkness be turned to light.. sad to joy for the joy of the lord is your strength. Isa 41:10 So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. <------

That was not just nice words.. GOD said that to YOU! He hears you ..and will help you. JESUS IS REAL! ... TELL HIM! For what WAS lost was found... cast ALL your cares on HIm for HE cares for you.

 

[stuart lawrence]

hi I don't know where to post this but... I think about killing myself a lot mainly because of the suffering in this world...I'm suffering a lot but i know I need to show grace and not be disgraceful to God...I try to be strong but it's really bad...I understand Jesus has saved us from our sins and I am beyond grateful for that therefore I can show my face to God yet I feel so much suffering...I experienced happiness so I know what it is what it feels like but suffering is greater and some people suffer all their life ,..why....help I can't take it all sometimes....is suicide a sentence to hell

May I suggest a book to read?
Prison to praise, author Merlin Carothers, the follow up book is good too.
Power in praise

God bless

 

[1deciple]

I can say with confidence, Skylar, that you have solicited and been blessed with a number of very real expressions of God's love for you in the answers above. One thing I'm going to assume is that you are hurting--emotionally and more importantly, spiritually. That's a safe assumption, based on your own description of your situation. One thing I WILL NOT assume, is that you actually have connected with Christ in the only way that counts, the way that results in an actual, Bible-based and Spirit generated Father-Son relationship with God. This dynamic is one of the least understood and most often misunderstood relationships, even among many 'practicing, self-identified "Christians" today. If you doubt this, listen to Jesus' words in Matthew 7:21, 23. Then, John's testimony in John 1:12 about 'believing' and 'becoming'. Also, consider this verse from I Corinthians 2:14-16, where we are basically advised that a correct understanding of spiritual things is dependent on a genuine spiritual relationship with God that only happens when we are 'born again' in the spiritual sense, something Jesus identified as essential to establishing a 'saving' relationship with God. Jn. 3:3. What these three Scriptures tell us, Skylar, is that being a 'child of God' is NOT an automatic result of intellectually embracing certain truths from the Bible. Before anyone can understand and embrace truth from God's Word (the Bible) they MUST be equipped with the understanding given by The Holy Spirit. Otherwise, every belief/assumption held about the Bible and what it tells us is subject to misunderstanding and misinterpretation! The first step to 'the peace of God, which escapes all human understanding' (Philippians 4:7) is to enter into the saving relationship with him by becoming His adopted Son, at which time you will be given the ability to understand with a new mind. Only when this has transpired, will you be equipped to live out the "Christian" experience. Most likely, very few "Christians" or, those who fully intend to be Christians, actually know this. Again: Matt. 7:21-23. God can be 'known'-in fact, wants to be known! However, knowing him is not simply an exercise of the intellect in which we 'decide' to accept certain facts and try to live by what we 'believe'. Seeuet:4:29 and II Peter 3:9. In fact, Skylar, there is no better Scripture you could read to gain a 'birds eye' view of what it means to be a 'son of God--a Christian' than the little books of first and second Peter. Just be sure you understand: you MUST want to know God more than anything else as a condition of His sending His Holy Spirit upon you with the answers you seek to affect that 'new birth' Jesus spoke of. Then, and only then, will you be equipped for the adventure available to you as a growing Child of God! Read my profile to decide if you want to trust me to give you a sound answer. In Christ's Love--1deciple

 

[tienkhoanguyen]

You see I came from a third world country. When I was little I learned that when you are really trying to cheer someone up you say "Merry [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ing Christmas and a Bless New Year!" People always look at me funny for some reason. Weird#

 

[tienkhoanguyen]

Call my personal crisis hotline. I don't know the answer but if you call me at 3am and it's Christmas time I "might" answer 713 825 3677 Just don't tell my mom and know I need a space reserved for my people.