dzheremi
Coptic Orthodox non-Egyptian
- Aug 27, 2014
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If you can't tell, why not show it?
Not everyone is comfortable with having pictures of themselves on the internet, and in this instance, I would not blame the poster you are asking for not complying with your request. I'm not any kind of transgendered person and reading this exchange even made me uncomfortable. You're conversing with a person here, before anything else. It would be more respectful not to treat them like a puzzle to be figured out, or some other kind of game.
P.S. I have never knowingly been fooled. Key word is knowingly, I know. I've seen some pretty faces, but the bodies have always been just completely not right. Surgery doesn't change everything. They either have the face to fool you but not the body, or the body but not the face. It's never quite right. On a secular forum I post at, there's a thread with "hot" trans women and yeah it's not hot; it's a good attempt, but never right. From my experience and from my view, the best are mistaken for ugly chicks. Or clown like. The ones that really dress up and do the makeup just look like clowns to me.
Do you feel ashamed for talking about other people in this way? I certainly would. Why would you judge others like this, and call them clowns? That's just mean-spirited and rude.
I just don't understand at what point "This person is living a lifestyle with which I disagree/which I would not advocate is a good way to live" crosses the line to "This person should be treated as somehow less than a person, ridiculed, and made to feel like a circus sideshow". If everyone is made in the image and likeness of God (and I don't recall any exceptions to this in the Bible), then this is downright insulting to God. And, sure, you can say "Well, they are insulting Him first by claiming to have been 'made wrong' and needing to be 'corrected'!" or similar, but while I don't really understand this particular issue (I know two people in my personal life who have had sex reassignment surgery, and I have to be honest that I still don't "get" it; but I don't think everything is necessarily meant to be understood by everyone, anyway), I can see at least parallel between that personal view (the view that this is the case in ones personal life with regard to their personal identity) and the view that is at the heart of traditional Christian anthropology that says we are all damaged by the effects of sin in this world and we need to be healed. So my personal objections to this particular medical advance is that it portends to heal people in a completely Godless, secular way which I believe to be ultimately impossible and dangerously deceptive, but may God help me if that should ever cause me to treat transgendered people as anything less than fellow human beings, beloved and created by God, and with inherent dignity on that account that it is not my business to try to degrade. I may not understand them, but what's so difficult to understand about "treat people decently"?
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