My problem is

[LJSGM]

thanx , but just give me one good reason to choose christianity
God gave us a brain to think
not just to follow

Because God gave us hundreds of prophecies that foretold the coming of the messiah, that of Jesus. Jesus fullfilled every one of them. God never foretold of Muhammad and many of his teaching are way off and is a false religion that of earning your way to salvation.

Here are some verses.

Isaiah 9

6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David's throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.

This was written before Jesus the messiah came.

Matthew 24
4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.
9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

About the trinity, the scriptures say that Jesus is the Logos of God, or word of God. It also says that we are made in the image of God and that we have a body, soul and spirit, and are like a trinity. Our spirit is a human spirit and is something that is liken to a force and is what drives us, it would be related to the Holy Spirit, which is God's spirit. Our soul is like our will and conscience and would be related to "father God" Or God's soul. Our body is like our Logos or the manifestation or word to the world. All three of these things that we have each have a mind of it's own, but we are still one person. Tried to explain it with human words...It's hard.

You should have a look at the bible. There is only one bible, unless you are looking into Catholicism in which they have a few more books added, but there are different translations from the Greek. Amplified is wordy but easier to understand in some cases

Have a read and open your heart up to what God says. I would start with the NT. the OT, written as an account of the Jews are many stories that give a much greater spiritual truth that points to Jesus and God.

God bless!

 

[Dubious Peace]

Well, if you put me to it, I'd say Christian, as the whole 'love-thy-enemy-thing' is quite a unique element of faith.

As for Muslims, I have heard they had a Genesis-type story as well, but could not find it in browsing through that Book. it seems elementary to me-- Creation. But I wouldn't profess to be an expert in that regard. In truth, I am only now beginning to read through the Bible, at the ripe age of 24, because of my new found Christianity-- My life.

Thing is, with people like Nicolas de Cusa, it is hard to be anything but Christian.

 

[sjdean]

what I believe is : not the religon what limits you in a some drinks like alkohol or food like pig meat , it's god , why he do that? I think he wants good for us , alkohol is dangerous for health , drugs also , illegal sex , etc , if it's good god will not forbid it . Acctually I got this good answer from the Islam forum to my question : why you don't drink alkohol

for your question why I limit 2 religons although there are many ?
Cuz I found that Islam and Christinity somehow looks alike , you'll never find 2 religons looks alike , plus i find myself close to these 2 religon and close 2 truth

You see, I always thought Islam had more in common with Judaism, or at least the orthodox version, what with the restrictions on pork, the prayers said to kill an animal (kosher and halal), recognising Jesus as only a man, circumcision etc.

My brain says I should think for myself, I don't think that a couple of beers a week is going to do me much harm, I believe God allows us freedom, freewil, as long as we're responsible, love thy neighbour.

I also love my McDonalds of a morning.

Each religion thinks it is the only sole representative of God. Hindus don't eat beef. Mormons won't drink alcohol or tea or coffee. Muslims don't drink alcohol or eat pork or birds of prey. Jews don't eat pork or rabbits or shrimp.

So I believe in Christianity and I've felt the things that Christ has done for me.

Have you ever been to a Christian Church? Or a Mosque? Maybe you should try both!

Cya
Simon

 

[I-want2be-christian]

Because God gave us hundreds of prophecies that foretold the coming of the messiah, that of Jesus. Jesus fullfilled every one of them. God never foretold of Muhammad and many of his teaching are way off and is a false religion that of earning your way to salvation.

Here are some verses.

Isaiah 9

6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David's throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.

This was written before Jesus the messiah came.

Matthew 24
4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.
9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

About the trinity, the scriptures say that Jesus is the Logos of God, or word of God. It also says that we are made in the image of God and that we have a body, soul and spirit, and are like a trinity. Our spirit is a human spirit and is something that is liken to a force and is what drives us, it would be related to the Holy Spirit, which is God's spirit. Our soul is like our will and conscience and would be related to "father God" Or God's soul. Our body is like our Logos or the manifestation or word to the world. All three of these things that we have each have a mind of it's own, but we are still one person. Tried to explain it with human words...It's hard.

You should have a look at the bible. There is only one bible, unless you are looking into Catholicism in which they have a few more books added, but there are different translations from the Greek. Amplified is wordy but easier to understand in some cases

Have a read and open your heart up to what God says. I would start with the NT. the OT, written as an account of the Jews are many stories that give a much greater spiritual truth that points to Jesus and God.

God bless!

hi bro . And god bless u , first how did u know that Islam is the wrong way?
Someone told u that? Or did you study Islam? Or you just said that to say something ?I respect it as christianity . At least they give me direct answers to my direct questions
like this question to u

if bible is god words why catholicism have a few more books added than others?

Do you believe in these added books?

Is bible God words ?

Best wishes

 

[I-want2be-christian]

Well, if you put me to it, I'd say Christian, as the whole 'love-thy-enemy-thing' is quite a unique element of faith.

As for Muslims, I have heard they had a Genesis-type story as well, but could not find it in browsing through that Book. it seems elementary to me-- Creation. But I wouldn't profess to be an expert in that regard. In truth, I am only now beginning to read through the Bible, at the ripe age of 24, because of my new found Christianity-- My life.

Thing is, with people like Nicolas de Cusa, it is hard to be anything but Christian.

I respect your point of view

but you are another one didn't answer my question

is bible god words?

 

[Aibrean]

Yes. It's implied throughout.

 

[I-want2be-christian]

You see, I always thought Islam had more in common with Judaism, or at least the orthodox version, what with the restrictions on pork, the prayers said to kill an animal (kosher and halal), recognising Jesus as only a man, circumcision etc.

My brain says I should think for myself, I don't think that a couple of beers a week is going to do me much harm, I believe God allows us freedom, freewil, as long as we're responsible, love thy neighbour.

I also love my McDonalds of a morning.

Each religion thinks it is the only sole representative of God. Hindus don't eat beef. Mormons won't drink alcohol or tea or coffee. Muslims don't drink alcohol or eat pork or birds of prey. Jews don't eat pork or rabbits or shrimp.

So I believe in Christianity and I've felt the things that Christ has done for me.

Have you ever been to a Christian Church? Or a Mosque? Maybe you should try both!

Cya
Simon

let me correct some of your information

muslims don't kill animal 4 fun , they kill it to feed poor ppl and the rest witch is less than 1/3 of the animal they eat , that happens in crismass too .
And in Islam jesus is not just a man
he is a miracle and a prophet

there are more than 20 millions in USA are alkoholic ( who keep drinking and can't give it up)
most of them in hospitals , many die cuz of liver disease or accidents
once upon a time they were drinking twice a week and now look at them

medically alcohol hurts , pork meat also due to some kind of worms in it and now pork flu
God wisdom forbid these things plus illegal sex due to AIDS

why do u think in islamic countries the number of AIDS . Liver disease.pork flu dicrease more less than USA alone?

By the way muslims eat birds of prey , just wanted to correct this info.

Any way do u believe in bible as GOD words?

With all my love

 

[Aibrean]

Regardless of what anyone says, the USA is not a "Christian" country. It's immoral just like the rest of them. The problem with "Islamic" countries is that they push their faith on people (at least, that's how I see it). The law of the country is made through the laws in the Koran. While the USA does used the Bible as a base, the governing bodies made sure that religion is kept separate.

 

[Jeffz]

I see you require a direct answer to your question. Is the bible the word of God? Yes my friend here is the answer right from God's word:

2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

My friend also know this that Jesus in not just a man He is God Son, man and God in one Emannuel (God with us).
Jesus died for the muslim also, and he loves the muslim.
Jeff

 

[AvgJoe]

thank you alot brother

I have many questions for now ,
1.If jesus the son and god created Adams What Father the god was doing ?

Any answer to this question would be speculation. I do not know.

2. Since jesus has this power why did he need to be born by a woman ? I mean why didn't he just changed to a man without being borned?

Would He really have been human if He had never been born? No, He wouldn't have been.

Don't you think that we still talking about three and not one?

No, there is only one God. The Trinity is difficult for me to understand too.

3.do you mean who make a miracle he is a GOD?

I don't understand the question.

4.Through (him) all things were made...accurding to this verse , Is bible word of GOD ?

I'm confused by this question too. Yes, the Bible is the word of God.

 

[AvgJoe]

how can I be so sure it's god words? And not human fakes?

God put alot of prophecy in the Bible so that we would know it is His word. Who else but God can accurately tell us what is going to happen ahead of time?!

Condsider the prophecy about the destruction of Tyre.

In the year 595 B.C. a man named Ezekiel was given a prophecy regarding the city of Tyre, a city in the modern day country of Lebanon . At that time this city was a large thriving city and a great enemy of Israel. He was told:

"Thus says the Lord God: 'behold I am against you o Tyre, and will cause many nations to come up against you, as the sea causes its waves to come up. And they shall destroy the walls of Tyre and break down her towers; I will also scrape her dust from her and make her like the top of a rock. It shall be a place for the spreading of nets...it shall become plunder for the nations...behold I will bring against Tare from the north King Nebuchadnezzer, King of Babylon.. he will slay your people by the sword and your strong pillars will fall to the ground. They will plunder your riches and pillage your merchandise; they will break down your walls and destroy your pleasant houses; they will lay your stones, your timbers, and your soil in the midst of the water...l will make you like the top of a rock; you shall be a place for the spreading of nets, and you shall never be rebuilt, for I the Lord have spoken. Will the coast lands not shake at the sound of your fall.. then all the princes of the sea will come down from their thrones, lay aside their robes, and take off their embroidered garments...and be astonished at you". (Ezekiel 26:3)


These are the very specific prophecies for the city of Tyre made by a Hebrew prophet 2600 years ago.

1. Nebuchadnezzer will destroy the mainland city of Tyre (Ezekiel 26:8)
2. Many nations against Tyre (Ezekiel 26:3).
3. Make her bare rock; flat like the top of a rock (Ezekiel 26:4)
4. Fishermen will spread their nets over the site (Ezekiel 26:5)
5. Throw the stones and timbers into the water (Ezekiel 26:12)
6. Never be rebuilt(Ezekiel 26: 14)
7. Princes of nearby coast lands will be astonished by Tyre's fall and give up their thrones.

Now lets look at what secular history says happened to Tyre.

In the year 586 B.C. Nebuchadnezzer, the King of the Babylonian Empire began to attack the city of Tyre. The Babylonian army was the greatest fighting force up to that time and besieged the city of Tyre for 13 years. When they finally broke down the gates and walls of Tyre he found that the people had moved out to an island 1/2 mile off the coast of Tyre. #l fulfilled. City besieged.

In the year 332 B.C. Alexander the Great laid siege against the island city of Tare because they would not submit to his authority. The Encyclopedia Britannica states that because Alexander the Great had no fleet of ships he demolished old Tyre on the mainland and he threw the debris (stones and timbers and dirt) into the ocean and made a causeway (jetty or wood/stone bridge) connecting the mainland to the newer island city of Tyre.

Secular historian Phillip Myers stated in his textbook of history that:

" Alexander the Great reduced Tare to ruins in 332 B.C. Tyre recovered in a measure from this blow, but never regained the place she had previously held in the world. the larger part of the site of the once great city is now as bare as the top of a rock- a place where the fishermen that still frequent the spot spread their nets to dry" #2,3,4,5 fulfilled.(1)
​

Secular historians have stated that the ruins of Tyre are highly unique. Tare ruins are the only ones in the world that have been completely thrown into the ocean.

After Alexander the Great, the island city persisted in various degrees of strength. during the next 16 centuries. Many kings besieged the city until its final destruction by the Moslems began in 1291 AD.

Currently, there is a flat rock area with not one stone upon another. The stones that were thrown into the sea are still there. Other than a few nearby small fishing villages, there is no evidence of the former great city. On the flat former foundation stones you find to the present day fishermen drying their nets. #6 fulfilled.. Never rebuilt.

Secular historians record that when Alexander the Great besieged the city of Tyre that many of the neighboring kings submitted to his authority without a battle. #7 fulfilled. Princes give up their thrones.

How could Ezekiel know these things? Because he served the creator of the universe. i.e. the God of the Bible who told Isaiah, Ezekiel and the other prophets that he would tell them things before they happened so that when they happened the people would know that he was truly God. This is only one of hundreds of Hebrew prophecies that have come true to the very word. God states that he can see the beginning from the end; that he is outside of time; that he can see all the history of man like we would look at the pages of a book. Sounds impossible doesn't it? Well it is if you happen to live in our four dimensional universe.
However, an interesting outcome of Einstein's theory of relativity was the discovery of dimensions of time and space that exist separately and distinct from the four dimensions we experience. In fact, these dimensions may even be in our midst but not visible to us. More recently mathematicians have shown that up to eleven dimensions may exist in the universe. Many physicists believe that there are places in the universe where time ceases to flow. One of these places is in a black hole. Now it is interesting that the Bible tells us that God dwells in a place where time does not flow. For centuries this concept was mocked by scientists. Such a place is now scientific fact.

If one were to be sucked into a black hole, or any other realm where time ceases to flow, we could see the flow of time, in places where there is time, like we were reading the pages of a book. Since we would experience no flow of time, the beginning and the end of time filled dimensions would be present and observable all at once.

These strange facts of physics may be evidence for the truth of what we call the supernatural "spirit realm". However, if these supernatural dimensions can be shown mathematically possible then they are not really supernatural. Rather, they are natural. People believe in a lot of things we can't see ( wind, atoms, heat, electromagnetic radiation, luck). Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not real.

Now the skeptic immediately says that the book of Ezekiel must have been written after these events took place. However, archaeological finds have produced Ezekiel texts that are dated to as far back as 400-600 B.C. In this century an almost complete Ezekiel text on stone tablets was found. The type of Hebrew on these tablets indicates that it was from the time of Ezekiel i.e. 500-600 B.C. There are many scholars who believe that this stone work may be from the hands of Ezekiel himself. Alexander the Great didn't invade the city until 332 B.C., long after Ezekiel's death. The final fulfillment of the prophecy did not happen until 1291 AD i.e., about 1700 years after Ezekiel's death. The story of Tyre is in the oldest text's known.

Another interesting fact is that these 2500 year old stone tablets contain exactly the same text as the Hebrew Bible you can buy today. So much for text being lost or changed because of faulty translation.. Others might argue luck. Well, the mathematical probability that Ezekiel could have guessed so many unlikely events happening is staggering. But this is only one small prophecy. There are hundreds that have come true. For an extensive treatment of this prophecy see Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell.

God told the prophets that he would tell them things that would happen in advance so they would recognize him as a supremely intelligent all knowing creator that exists outside time and space.

The accuracy of the Bible is amazing.

 

[sjdean]

let me correct some of your information

As long as you let me correct yours.

muslims don't kill animal 4 fun

I didn't say this. I said that both Judaism and Islam as far as I am aware have various religious practices when slaughtering an animal for food.

Point taken about Islams view of Jesus.

medically alcohol hurts

Just because some people abuse alcohol, is IMHO, no reason to ban it. People should be free to enjoy responsibly.

pork meat also due to some kind of worms in it and now pork flu

Yes. The worms are part of a parasitic disease in many animals, not just pigs, called trichinosis. Even if an animal were infected, reports suggest that the parasites would be killed at 137 degrees F. The disease has been pretty much eradicated however thanks to modern farming practices and legislations.

Good information here

Google for "Snopes Pork Worms"

Infection was once very common and usually caused by ingestion of undercooked pork. However, infection is now relatively rare. During 1997-2001, an average of 12 cases> per year were reported. The number of cases has decreased because of legislation prohibiting the feeding of raw-meat garbage to hogs, commercial and home freezing of pork, and the public awareness of the danger of eating raw or undercooked pork products. Cases are less commonly associated with pork products and more often associated with eating raw or undercooked wild game meats.

But the question for me, should be, should we be free to eat non-contaminated pork? If not, then why not restrictions on Beef due to BSE etc?

why do u think in islamic countries the number of AIDS . Liver disease.pork flu dicrease more less than USA alone?

Because I don't think you could call the UK or the USA Christian countries as such. A lot of people don't have any faith and are atheist. Im a Christian though, I enjoy my beer, and I enjoy my clean pork. So leave me alone!

By the way muslims eat birds of prey , just wanted to correct this info.

Ok. Just goes to show, don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Any way do u believe in bible as GOD words?

Im not sure about answering this question as I don't understand the origins of the Bible. Do I believe God wrote the Bible? No. Was it inspired by God? I would say yes. But don't take my word for it.

Im quite puzzled though, are you really serious about thinking about Christianity? What is it that you seek? Why not just see where the spirit leads you?

 

[I-want2be-christian]

As long as you let me correct yours.
Because I don't think you could call the UK or the USA Christian countries as such. A lot of people don't have any faith and are atheist. Im a Christian though, I enjoy my beer, and I enjoy my clean pork. So leave me alone!

the population of USA in 2009 is 307481000 the cristians are 224571000
so what MANY atheist you are talking about?? its les than 1:3 , USA is christian country



Ok. Just goes to show, don't believe everything you read on the internet.

ofcourse I don't , and not believe what you are telling me , i took ur advise seriously

Im not sure about answering this question as I don't understand the origins of the Bible. Do I believe God wrote the Bible? No.

Was it inspired by God? I would say yes. But don't take my word for it.

why not ? and GOD inspired it for who ??

Im quite puzzled though, are you really serious about thinking about Christianity?

yes I am

What is it that you seek?


what do you think ?


Why not just see where the spirit leads you?

cuz I see nothing

sorry if my presence in this forum bother u bro ,

best wishes

 

[I-want2be-christian]

you said there is only one bible but different translations

II CHRONICLES
CHAPTER 9
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25.​

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​

​

And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand
horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.

​

I KINGS
CHAPTER 4
​

26​

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​

​

​

And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve
thousand horsemen.​

there is a contradiction here not translation

no one can translate 4000 to 40,000

any one can explain this difference 2 me I will be most happy

 

[LJSGM]

you said there is only one bible but different translations

II CHRONICLES
CHAPTER 9​

25.

And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand

horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.​

​

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I KINGS
CHAPTER 4​

26 ​

​

And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve

thousand horsemen.​

there is a contradiction here not translation

no one can translate 4000 to 40,000

any one can explain this difference 2 me I will be most happy
​

Wesley's Notes 4:26 Forty thousand - In 2Chron 9:25, it is but four thousand. But it is not exactly the same Hebrew word which is here and there, though we translate both stalls; and therefore there may well be allowed some difference in the signification, the one signifying properly stables, of which there were four thousand, the other stalls or partitions for each horse, which were forty thousand.
​

 

[sjdean]

Unfortunately, I want-to-be, the problem with polls is that they're not necessarily accurate. If they are census type records, it is probably common to fall back on a "Christian" label when all else fails. Some studies suggest of the 70% to 80% who identify as Christian, only 50% actually attend a Church. Some identify as Christian purely from a cultural perspective and not religious based.

In the UK, the mainstream Church of England christianity is in decline. I was always one of those people who would record "Christian" wherever i was, because that's what I thought I was. But I wasn't. I hadn't been baptised, I hadn't been confirmed, I wasn't aware of what was required for salvation.

Again, I have little knowledge about the origins of the Bible. I understand though that it was inspired by God through his prophets foretelling the coming of the son of God and the salvation of mankind through belief in Christ.

At least, that's my understanding, but Im probably wrong. Im very new to this.

Now I did ask, what is that you seek? Your opening question, is which religion should you choose. But you tell me you see nothing in Christianity? No spirit? Further to this, any argument you make, seems to be favouring Islam at the expense of Christianity, see unclean meat such as pork argument.

I've already explained my position that I feel Christianity gives me the freedom to make my own choices, it gives me freewill, but I am still responsible to God. My freewill means I take my own responsibility over what food I eat and how I prepare it. The problem for me is the way some religions specifcally rule out certain products and ignore other possibly more dangerous things (BSE in Beef, Salmonella in Eggs, reheated rice etc etc.

I ask again, if you are sincere in your quest, there are Im sure lots of people who would be happy for you to attend one of the services, to see what Christianity is about, to show what Christianity has done for them, to explain some of your further questions.

But I sense it would do well to not simply dismiss peoples answers out of hand.

Your presence doesn't bother me friend.

I wish you luck on your quest. It's taken me 32 years to find my religion, to think, to investigate, to figure out my position and which religion feels comofortable with me, I would recommend you take as much time as you need to think about your path - it may be different to your parents religion.

 

[LJSGM]

hi bro . And god bless u , first how did u know that Islam is the wrong way?

Cause I know for absolute certainity that Christ is the right way, thus all other ways are wrong.

Someone told u that? Or did you study Islam? Or you just said that to say something ?I respect it as christianity . At least they give me direct answers to my direct questions
like this question to u

You talk about the christian's bible and inaccuracies, but have you never read the Koran?

if bible is god words why catholicism have a few more books added than others?

Jesus is God's word, the scriptures are inspired by God. The Jews threw these extra books out of their canon around 90AD, the church did not until the protestant reformation.

Do you believe in these added books?

You know, that's a good question. I will read them today, I have read them before but I can't remember them exactly.

Is bible God words ?

Jesus is God's word, the bible is God's tradition of written scriptures as someone else pointed out "given by inspiration of God, and profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

Best wishes

same

 

[I-want2be-christian]

Wesley's Notes 4:26 Forty thousand - In 2Chron 9:25, it is but four thousand. But it is not exactly the same Hebrew word which is here and there, though we translate both stalls; and therefore there may well be allowed some difference in the signification, the one signifying properly stables, of which there were four thousand, the other stalls or partitions for each horse, which were forty thousand.
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ok what about this ??

II CHRONICLES 36​

9.

Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months

and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.​

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II KINGS 24​

8. ​

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Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in

Jerusalem three months. And his mothers name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan​

of Jerusalem.

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[I-want2be-christian]

Unfortunately, I want-to-be, the problem with polls is that they're not necessarily accurate. If they are census type records, it is probably common to fall back on a "Christian" label when all else fails. Some studies suggest of the 70% to 80% who identify as Christian, only 50% actually attend a Church. Some identify as Christian purely from a cultural perspective and not religious based.

In the UK, the mainstream Church of England christianity is in decline. I was always one of those people who would record "Christian" wherever i was, because that's what I thought I was. But I wasn't. I hadn't been baptised, I hadn't been confirmed, I wasn't aware of what was required for salvation.

Again, I have little knowledge about the origins of the Bible. I understand though that it was inspired by God through his prophets foretelling the coming of the son of God and the salvation of mankind through belief in Christ.

At least, that's my understanding, but Im probably wrong. Im very new to this.

Now I did ask, what is that you seek? Your opening question, is which religion should you choose. But you tell me you see nothing in Christianity? No spirit? Further to this, any argument you make, seems to be favouring Islam at the expense of Christianity, see unclean meat such as pork argument.

sorry..Ididn't say that i see nothing in chrstianity..no no .. u said see where the spirit leads u ..I said i see no spirit..u can say that to a christian but I am not. I want to be ..


I've already explained my position that I feel Christianity gives me the freedom to make my own choices, it gives me freewill, but I am still responsible to God. My freewill means I take my own responsibility over what food I eat and how I prepare it. The problem for me is the way some religions specifcally rule out certain products and ignore other possibly more dangerous things (BSE in Beef, Salmonella in Eggs, reheated rice etc etc.

I ask again, if you are sincere in your quest, there are Im sure lots of people who would be happy for you to attend one of the services, to see what Christianity is about, to show what Christianity has done for them, to explain some of your further questions.

But I sense it would do well to not simply dismiss peoples answers out of hand.

Your presence doesn't bother me friend.

I wish you luck on your quest. It's taken me 32 years to find my religion, to think, to investigate, to figure out my position and which religion feels comofortable with me, I would recommend you take as much time as you need to think about your path - it may be different to your parents religion.

thanks a lot bro

 

[Aibrean]

checking into it

2 chronicles 36

Now the rest of the acts of Jehoiakim, and his abominations which he did, and that which was found in him, behold, they [are] written in the book of the kings of Israel and Judah: and Jehoiachin his son reigned in his stead.

Jehoiachin [was] eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did [that which was] evil in the sight of the LORD.

2 kings 24

So Jehoiakim slept with his fathers: and Jehoiachin his son reigned in his stead. And the king of Egypt came not again any more out of his land: for the king of Babylon had taken from the river of Egypt unto the river Euphrates all that pertained to the king of Egypt.Jehoiachin [was] eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name [was] Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

I am wondering since in Kings it mentioned other kings in the middle (not like Chronicles) that "when he began to reign" is referring to the reign of other kings. OR since the first part of him reigning was 8 years (for 3 months and ten days) he stopped reigning, then his father resumed power and then when he was 18 he became king again for 3 months.

http://www.biblebc.com/Ask_A_Question/7questions/Names_Ages_Dates_Numbers.htm check that out