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So what bible should I read ? Cuz there are many bibles not one as you know . That make me ask why it's not only one bible ?

Most translations are a good start I prefer King James, but also use New International Version, a good place to compare is found at the following
Matthew 14 (Blue Letter Bible: KJV - King James Version)
you can even get the original language lexicon there to see what the word may mean from the original.
If you have trouble with those there are a few easier ones to begin with the new Message bible is ok but a little watered down, it is a paraphrase of the bible but it is useful along with another bible reading them side by side and there is the parallel bibles that actually have 4 different versions side by side for study.
Hope I didn't confuse you more. One more thing when you do read and study the bible ask God to teach you by the Holy Spirit and He will reveal to you what you need to hear. I also read the text out loud so that I might hear the words, this helps our faith, 'faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God"

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Stick with your mother and pray together with your mother. Maybe the Lord will cause your father to come around.

its about believing not following . about studing searching truth and don't forget that we have a brain . If my father told me throw your self in fire cuz I'm doing that would I do ? Sure not
 
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Most translations are a good start I prefer King James, but also use New International Version, a good place to compare is found at the following

you can even get the original language lexicon there to see what the word may mean from the original.
If you have trouble with those there are a few easier ones to begin with the new Message bible is ok but a little watered down, it is a paraphrase of the bible but it is useful along with another bible reading them side by side and there is the parallel bibles that actually have 4 different versions side by side for study.
Hope I didn't confuse you more. One more thing when you do read and study the bible ask God to teach you by the Holy Spirit and He will reveal to you what you need to hear. I also read the text out loud so that I might hear the words, this helps our faith, 'faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God"

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Jeffrey

No you didn't confuse me , u really helped , I knew that king james is the best
but you didn't answered

" And jesus went ... preaching the gospel ... and healing every disease among the people " ................. Mathew 9:35


Do you mean that all bibles has the same meaning of the gospel that jesus was preaching and it's one bible but different translations ?
 
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its about believing not following . about studing searching truth and don't forget that we have a brain . If my father told me throw your self in fire cuz I'm doing that would I do ? Sure not

The bible says even the devil believes, and Jesus said pick up your cross and follow me.
So the question is who are we following? Faith is not just believing it is about action. Obedience to God is better than sacrifice. The bible has a lot of paradox. ie.. lose your life to gain it...a grain of wheat must die first before it grows into many seeds...when we are weak He is strong. The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing but unto us who are being save the power of God 1 Cor. 1:18. Our thinking must be renewed I can not rely on my own thoughts. For us that are in Christ the bible teaches us that we have the mind of Christ. For old things are passed away and all things become new when we are born from above.

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Father is muslim
mother is christian
me is confused

which religon should I choose

none of them tried to influance on me , I tried to choose my religon by studing it in a closer look

I will not lie , I'm in a Islam forum too , ask here and there till I find answer 2 my questions .

If u c that here is not the right place , I will leave
if I'm wellcomed I'll be most pleasured

may god bless u

Choose Christ. He lived and preached love not hate. Plus he's the only one who rose from the dead.
Dr. Gary R. Habermas - Online Resource for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ

Thanks,
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Go to the bible yourself and ask God to reveal the truth to you. No one else can be responsible for your own search. I know that God has changed me from a drug addicted man into a new creation and I have been using the Bible to learn about God. Try reading the book of John in any one of the following bibles, Revised Standard, NIV, NKJV, KJV, Message, Living New Testiment. Check it out for yourself.
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Want-To-Be, Im a new Christian, well, not fully, but Im on my way there. I struggle with all the faiths, many different religions. Why limit to just two choices?

There is islam, judaism, christianity in all its forms including mormon, jehovahs, brethren etc, there's quaker, sikh, hindu, buddhist... It was all really rather confusing.

I figured though that there were some religions that limited you on dietary intake, tea, coffee, certain meats, alcohol etc. I used the same argument that I have a brain and need a religion that gives me freedom and responsibility.

I know mainstream Christianity is fairly releaxed. But still I struggled, which branch of Christianity? Do I need to join a church.

I suppose you have to ask yourself, what does God want YOU to do?

Perhaps you need to sample both religions and see which one you feel most comfortable with?

I've spent 32 years of my life worrying about my spiritual health, so I just went to church recently and I felt what I believe to be the spirit telling me I've made the right choice.

But I've already accepted Christ and have felt the positive things he has done in my life so far.
 
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it's not about religion. it;s not about choosing who's right by playing 20 questions. the greatest thing about Christianity is that you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

seek His face and you'll know. seek Him and He will show himself to you. seek Him with all your heart.
 
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hello bro . Yes it does

but still .

About Islam : it is the only religon that talk about christians and jesus in a very respected way
I wonder why?

But my important question hasn't been answered yet
is bible god's word?

We are talking about a religon
and its sources must be holy


I do not find Islam to teach about Christians and Jesus in a respectful way compared to Christianity, of course.

There are a vast number of reasons for this. This does not mean I have any bias. I have none.


The faith has nothing to do with "bloodline". The whole point of bloodline is to show that God is in control of all matters and creates each and every single one of us.


As for the impossibility of God becoming flesh as Jews and Muslims are taught: this is all through out Scripture.


God walked in the Garden of Eden. God appeared to Joshua, and Joshua worshipped him as God. God appeared to Abraham with the two witnesses. And Moses and the leaders of Israel ate and drank with the Lord. Further, other prophets, such as Isaiah, were taken up into Heaven and saw God in human form - albeit in the glorified, transfigured form... Daniel saw this. And others.


Jesus is the Way, the Door, God in the flesh... yet, there is more to God then Jesus. Jesus is the conduit, the portal. Jesus is God in the flesh, fully God, yet also fully human -- just as when any prophet or ancestor (such as Adam and Eve) saw God in the flesh... there was much more to Him then what mere humans can see... being bound by time and space as they are.


But, look at Revelation. Jesus has sat down in His Father's throne. God is everywhere and all powerful -- beyond all time and space.


Yet, how can Jesus also be "the prophet like Moses"?


That is the mystery of godliness. The curtain is torn. God, through His Spirit, has brought forth many children of God. There is not any limit, except for the form we have in time and space given to Children of God -- and that limit is by faith.


As Scripture say, "Moses talked with God face to face and not in parable, but in plain speech". That is a far deeper statement of Moses then Moses delivering the people from Israel.


We are literally called to transcend this "mortal coil" in God. To be "above it all" -- above all grudges, above all hatreds, above all slights, above all concepts of "family" and "nationality".


As the Apostles spoke, the Prophets spoke as moved by the Spirit of God. For any man to claim otherwise is to lie and speak from the Devil. The Devil knows better and lies because that is what he does.


Further, they had no understanding of what it was or is they speak of, beyond parable, or "riddle".


The "answer" has nothing to do with flesh. It has to do with God who has created all of Heaven and earth, which is but as a dream or a wrapping around our consciousness -- the whole purpose is for people to see this and break through... and find themselves as children of God.


Tyranny, reliance on our own strength and might -- these things are the exact opposite of what we are called to.


We are called to be "blind" and "deaf" and work by grace, depending on God... not on man, and most surely not on "Law" -- which neither man nor angel ever understood anyway.
 
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Go to the bible yourself and ask God to reveal the truth to you. No one else can be responsible for your own search. I know that God has changed me from a drug addicted man into a new creation and I have been using the Bible to learn about God. Try reading the book of John in any one of the following bibles, Revised Standard, NIV, NKJV, KJV, Message, Living New Testiment. Check it out for yourself.
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jeffrey

its right jeff , no one is responsible of my search , don't consider me as a searcher , no no , just consider me as a man looking for help , so every one is responsible to help me , that what christianity preach for .
You said try reading the book of john . And I ask why not Mathew . What's the difference?
 
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Want-To-Be, Im a new Christian, well, not fully, but Im on my way there. I struggle with all the faiths, many different religions. Why limit to just two choices?

There is islam, judaism, christianity in all its forms including mormon, jehovahs, brethren etc, there's quaker, sikh, hindu, buddhist... It was all really rather confusing.

I figured though that there were some religions that limited you on dietary intake, tea, coffee, certain meats, alcohol etc. I used the same argument that I have a brain and need a religion that gives me freedom and responsibility.

I know mainstream Christianity is fairly releaxed. But still I struggled, which branch of Christianity? Do I need to join a church.

I suppose you have to ask yourself, what does God want YOU to do?

Perhaps you need to sample both religions and see which one you feel most comfortable with?

I've spent 32 years of my life worrying about my spiritual health, so I just went to church recently and I felt what I believe to be the spirit telling me I've made the right choice.

But I've already accepted Christ and have felt the positive things he has done in my life so far.

what I believe is : not the religon what limits you in a some drinks like alkohol or food like pig meat , it's god , why he do that? I think he wants good for us , alkohol is dangerous for health , drugs also , illegal sex , etc , if it's good god will not forbid it . Acctually I got this good answer from the Islam forum to my question : why you don't drink alkohol

for your question why I limit 2 religons although there are many ?
Cuz I found that Islam and Christinity somehow looks alike , you'll never find 2 religons looks alike , plus i find myself close to these 2 religon and close 2 truth


wishing you good luck
 
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I do not find Islam to teach about Christians and Jesus in a respectful way compared to Christianity, of course.

There are a vast number of reasons for this. This does not mean I have any bias. I have none.


The faith has nothing to do with "bloodline". The whole point of bloodline is to show that God is in control of all matters and creates each and every single one of us.


As for the impossibility of God becoming flesh as Jews and Muslims are taught: this is all through out Scripture.


God walked in the Garden of Eden. God appeared to Joshua, and Joshua worshipped him as God. God appeared to Abraham with the two witnesses. And Moses and the leaders of Israel ate and drank with the Lord. Further, other prophets, such as Isaiah, were taken up into Heaven and saw God in human form - albeit in the glorified, transfigured form... Daniel saw this. And others.


Jesus is the Way, the Door, God in the flesh... yet, there is more to God then Jesus. Jesus is the conduit, the portal. Jesus is God in the flesh, fully God, yet also fully human -- just as when any prophet or ancestor (such as Adam and Eve) saw God in the flesh... there was much more to Him then what mere humans can see... being bound by time and space as they are.


But, look at Revelation. Jesus has sat down in His Father's throne. God is everywhere and all powerful -- beyond all time and space.


Yet, how can Jesus also be "the prophet like Moses"?


That is the mystery of godliness. The curtain is torn. God, through His Spirit, has brought forth many children of God. There is not any limit, except for the form we have in time and space given to Children of God -- and that limit is by faith.


As Scripture say, "Moses talked with God face to face and not in parable, but in plain speech". That is a far deeper statement of Moses then Moses delivering the people from Israel.


We are literally called to transcend this "mortal coil" in God. To be "above it all" -- above all grudges, above all hatreds, above all slights, above all concepts of "family" and "nationality".


As the Apostles spoke, the Prophets spoke as moved by the Spirit of God. For any man to claim otherwise is to lie and speak from the Devil. The Devil knows better and lies because that is what he does.


Further, they had no understanding of what it was or is they speak of, beyond parable, or "riddle".


The "answer" has nothing to do with flesh. It has to do with God who has created all of Heaven and earth, which is but as a dream or a wrapping around our consciousness -- the whole purpose is for people to see this and break through... and find themselves as children of God.


Tyranny, reliance on our own strength and might -- these things are the exact opposite of what we are called to.


We are called to be "blind" and "deaf" and work by grace, depending on God... not on man, and most surely not on "Law" -- which neither man nor angel ever understood anyway.

dear freeport
as in my name . I want to be christian , but I'm not christian yet , what makes me christian is answers to questions confuse me . The answer can be less complicated
there is nothing easier than yes/no

so I ask again hoping the answer is one of these most easy choices yes/no

Is bible god's word ?

" And jesus went ... preaching the gospel ... and healing every disease among the people " ................. Mathew 9:35


Do you mean that all bibles has the same meaning of the gospel that jesus was preaching for ? and it's one bible but different translations ?

Yes/No

best wishes
 
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