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~~~~~~~~~~ THE LAST DECADE - COUNTDOWN ~~~~~~~~~~

--------- November 10-2022 is the 679th day of the LAST DECADE of the Devil's world --------

------The LAST WEEK - Daniel 9:v.27 - week 70th - is within of this current LAST DECADE.------

~------------------------------------Be careful and get ready----------------------------------------

Paul the Apostle warned: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that Day shall not come, except there come a falling away FIRST, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders-2Thessalonians 2:v.3-4 and 9.

1 Thessalonians 4:v.15-16
15 For this we say unto you by the Word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise FIRST: - Daniel 12:v.1-3 - check it out
Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days- Day 1,335-
Why is blessed he who waits and comes to the Glorious, Ineffable, Unspeakable DAY 1,335? or 45 days after 1,290 days as is written in Daniel 12:v.11-12?

See below the events which will happen from now on.

Here goes a list of events or happenings that will PRECEDE the resurrection of the dead, and of the coming of the LORD:

- Pope Francis get out of scenario and a new Pope is elected, that is the last Pope, he may be nicknamed Paulus VII- (this must happen soon, until 2024 at the latest, no more).

- The Beast of the earth-earth is Israel-the clay-Isaiah 64:v.8- the dry land-Genesis 1:v.9-, with two horns LIKE A LAMB rises up in Israel; - Revelation 13:v.11-in fact a false lamb, a false messiah-John 5:v.43-47-the MAN of sin, son of perdition.

- Election of the a new Pope – his nickname may be Pope Paulus VII;

- Then the Beast of the earth LIKE A LAMB manifest himself as GOD in Israel; in fact a false messiah, an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist false messiah; - John 5:v.43-47

- The esoteric and kabbalistic, and spiritist Beast of the earth makes great signs and wonders of lie, even makes fire come down to the earth before men; (things of spiritism)

- The Pope Paulus VII will meet the Beast like lamb; Both will develop a union between the Roman Catholic Church and Judaism, iron with clay - Daniel 2:v.41-43- but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay;

- A religious and satanic universal Empire will be build by both devilish religious leaders; Rev.11:v.1-2; The esoteric and kabbalistic, and spiritist Beast of the earth will make a deal with the Beast of sea, and he will give to the Beast of sea his Power, and his Throne, and great Authority - Revelation 13:v.2 - . The Antichrist's Empire is conceived by both Beasts. There will be TWO BEASTS in the Earth very soon;

All events or happenings listed above, some will happen before starting the last week-Daniel 9:v.27-, others during the week as soon it starts, and others in the middle of the week and until the end;

There will be resurrection before JESUS coming; Michael comes before the Lord JESUS; Daniel 12:v.1-3 and 1 Thessalonians 4:v.16;
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD (this world of the Devil) are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. - Rev. 11:v.15 to 18;
18 And the nations were (WILL BE)angry, and the wrath comes -GOD's WRATH is come-, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that GOD should give reward unto HIS servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should DESTROY them which destroy the earth;

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NOTE: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Until this current time -2022- , the prophetical last week – Daniel 9:v.27 have not started yet, OK?

- A sequence of events will push the world direct to the last week from now on;

- On that occasion both Beasts WILL MAKE A DEAL who will FIRST rule the religious and universal Empire, the Antichrist's Empire, by the way, it will be the FIFTH and LAST universal Empire of the Devil. According Scriptures who will rule the FIRST half of the last week-Daniel 9:v.27- is the Beast of sea (the Beast of the waters-Revelation 13:v.5 & 17:v.15-check it).

- Again: Once the DEAL BE CONCLUDED, who will rule FIRST the religious AND UNIVERSAL Antichrist’s Empire is the Pope, the Beast of sea, to whom the Beast that rises from the earth-from the land of Israel- will give his Power, and his Throne and great Authority to the elected NEW Pope, according to the prophecy-Revelation 13:v.2and5 & 7&15- even him who will replace Pope Francis, whose nickname may be called Paulus VII;

- The date and the ceremony of enthronement of the Pope as the FIRST RULER and GUIDE of the religious and satanic Empire of Antichrist will be combined and determined between both Beasts. After the enthronement's ceremony, THEN the FIRST 42-month period of the LAST WEEK, or three years and half, begins to be counted.

- Having ended the first 42-month period, immediately the Beast like a lamb, a false lamb, a false messiah, the ESOTERIC/KABBALIST/ SPIRITIST and RUTHLESS messiah of the Jews will be enthroned as the ruler of the satanic Antichrist's Empire by 1.290 days, and the Abomination of Desolation will sit in the Holy Place, Who will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called GOD, or that is worshiped, shewing himself that he is GOD. HERE the sacrifice of JESUS on the cross which has lasted in these last 2000 years-730.000 days-until the current time will be taken out of the way; The Dispensation of the New Testament, the second Covenant, finished for ever.

- Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. The day 1.335 is the day of JESUS's return. Alleluia! - The millenial God's Kingdom begins;

- Satan is laid hold, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and deceives the whole world, he will be bound a thousand years into the bottomless pit, and will be shut up, and a seal put in him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled:

To the only Wise God our Savior, be Glory and Majesty, Dominion and Power, both now and ever. Amen.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings(kings made by Him) and LORD of lords

Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for MANY, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, ... Luke 13:v.24-25.

 

[Douggg]

--------- November 10-2022 is the 679th day of the LAST DECADE of the Devil's world --------

So you are thinking that Jesus returns in 2030, perhaps earlier, but not later than?

Then the Beast of the earth LIKE A LAMB manifest himself as GOD in Israel; in fact a false messiah, an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist false messiah; - John 5:v.43-47

The beast out of the earth in Revelation 13 will be the false prophet - not a false messiah. He will probably be kabbalistic though.

 

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But even so, as you will find out per your thread that you just started involving it's image, that though I might be on the same page with you in regards to what I quoted above, it still matters about chronology of events though, thus Revelation 20:4 and the saints that are martyred for refusing to worship it's image, it is meaning after the beast has ascended out of the pit. Therefore, placing the time involving Revelation 13, before that of the thousand years, not after. Therefore, that equals Premil not Amil.

Since there are many misunderstandings about the martyrs and the timing of the kingdom, here is my biblical perspective of Revelation 20:4:

• "And I saw thrones, and they set upon them, and judgment was given unto them. And I saw the souls of them which were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the Word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither has received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands, and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years".

In verse 4 John tells us that he saw the souls of the martyrs who did not worship the beast, nor receive his mark. First of all, notice that John does "not" say he saw the martyrs, nor does he say that he saw their bodies, or the persons, or he saw souls (which could be illustrating people). He is very specific! He saw the souls "of" those that were beheaded for the witness of God. The souls of them, nothing more! Again, this is the Spiritual picture that the Lord is giving us. First the Messenger of the Covenant comes from heaven and binds Satan that the New Covenant Church can be built, and then John sees the souls of those martyred raised up to reign with Christ on thrones. In other words, they are made kings and Priests unto God after Christ binds Satan. If you look at verse 5 you'll see that this (the souls of these martyrs up on thrones) is called The First Resurrection. It's now a simple matter of Biblical deduction to discover exactly when and what was "The First Resurrection?"

Again, fitting perfectly into place we see that it was at the cross! These Souls were raised up to reign with Christ because of the work at the cross and Christ's resurrection thereafter. Christ is the "First" Resurrection. Those who have part in the first resurrection are all the True Believers who have part in Christ's First Resurrection. They are the First Resurrection (the second being at Christ's return). Those who have died in Christ have gone to be with the Lord, having been raised with Christ to reign. That's the First Resurrection these martyrs have part in, which precludes the second death.

The very fact a first resurrection is spoken about, indicates that there is a second. And the second resurrection is at Christ's return. This is at the time of the Rapture when when the rest of the dead will be raised to stand for Judgment. And then there will be the second death, of which those who have part in the First Resurrection (raised with Christ) have no need to worry about. Likewise, the very fact that a second death is spoken about, implies that there is a first death.

Romans 5:12-14

• "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
• (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
• Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come."

The first death is our death in Adam. For in him we are all dead in tresspass and sin. As God told Adam, "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." And in Adam, we all die, which means that we are all dead in trespass and sin. This is that first death.

1st Corinthians 15:21-22

• "For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
• For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."

Did Adam die when he ate of the tree? Yes, but not physically, he died spiritually. Therefore the first resurrection from the dead is not physical, but spiritual. It is in Christ, the firstfruit. And we shall 'realize' that eternal life resurrection at his coming.
Do not be confused by this First and Second Resurrection, and the First and Second Death. This is the way the Lord writes things that His sheep 'alone' will receive it. Just as in the parables He told. If we look at these verses carefully and objectively, we can see that the thousand years are not literal. These souls are those of the martyrs in heaven. It says these are those beheaded because of the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and are those who didn't receive the mark of the beast in their foreheads (sign of bondage to satan).

And we read the rest of the dead lived not again for 1000 years (verse 5). This also illustrates that this is not speaking about a future first resurrection, for there is one future resurrection of the just and the unjust. And it is not (nor can it be) the first. If this were indeed a literal number of years, then even all of the "rest of those who died" would have all had to die on the same year. Else they could not have died and not lived again for that literal thousand years. Did everybody (the rest of the dead) all die the same year? ..see how convoluted this gets? Likewise in the 1000 years the believers who died lived and reigned with Christ, is it the same thousand years satan is bound? If so, how can the souls of the dead be reigning with Christ in heaven when Christ is (supposedly) reigning with men here on earth in literal jerusalem in the middle east? Moreover, if the rest of the dead for a thousand years refers to the same thousand literal years Satan is bound, then when Satan is loosed after the thousand years, these "rest of the dead" must also live again, and we have a world with dead people walking around, because scripture emphatically says they lived again after the thousand years? Does Satan have an army of "literal" dead people helping him deceive the nations and coming against the camp of the Saints? For the rest of these dead live after this thousand years, and Satan is loosed after a thousand years. On and on this inconsistency and torture of scripture is endless in the premillennialist doctrine. If we just bother to look at it carefully we understand that it simply cannot be literally a thousand years.

But here is the truth of the matter. We should understand that everything in this Revelations chapter 20 is going along in a logical chronological progression. Christ, The Messenger of the Covenant, Comes down from heaven with this Key (Christ is the one with the Keys to Hell and death -Rev. 1:18) and great chain and lays hold on Satan and bounds him 1000 year (the fullness time for the Lords purpose) so that He can free Satan's prisoners and populate Christ's Kingdom with the spoil. He shuts Satan up in this spiritual prison symbolized by the fathomless abyss where he can't deceive the world and prevent the Lord's plan to build His Temple by spoiling satan's house! God sets a seal on him (indicating that He assures this). This is God's "signification" of security that no one can loose Satan but God who bound him. He will not be not loosed until the fullness of time is accomplished (spiritually, 1000 years). So after Satan is bound, John sees the souls of the martyrs then living and reigning on thrones. This is consistent with scripture of the binding of Satan, and the work of Christ on the cross which allows these souls to have been raised up from the dead to "live" and reign with Christ! They are kings and Priests unto their God having had part in Christ's Resurrection. These are those who are not servants of Satan (received his mark of servitude), but they are/were martyred because of their witness and for the Word of God they brought. And they all live and reign (spiritually) 1000 years with Christ. And it is by the work of this messenger of the Covenant that they can be translated into the Kingdom and live and reign with Christ.

Ephesians 2:56-57

• "Even when we were Dead in sins, hath made us alive together with Christ, by Grace ye are Saved,
• and hath Raised us up together, and made us to sit in Heavenly places in Christ Jesus".

What raising up or resurrection from the dead is this? If it's not the "first" then all scripture is untrustworthy and nothing to be believed! Because God says Christ is the First born from the dead, that in all things he might have preeminence. Is that true or not? These souls reigning with Christ reign because they were in Christ when He went to the cross and they were raised up with Him (The First Resurrection) to be seated in heavenly places having the Judgment of God with Power, because God dwelleth within them. Anyone who tries to tell you that the first resurrection hasn't happened yet, either doesn't know the scriptures very well, or is deliberately ignoring them.

If you recall when Mary's brother Lazarus died, Jesus came to her and she said, I know he will be raised at "The Last Day". Well, the last day is the day of the Rapture, but it's the second resurrection, not the first! But Jesus made it perfectly clear to her of another Resurrection. The First! Consider wisely..

John 11:25

• Jesus said unto her, I Am The Resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live,
• and whosoever that liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believeth thou this?"

Perhaps we should ask the Theologians of the Premillennialist Churches today if Jesus indeed was the Resurrection, because it doesn't appear that they believe this is true. Jesus was telling her, the first Resurrection unto Life is in Me, it's right here! I Am the Resurrection! He that liveth and believeth in Me shall never die! In other words, neither Lazarus nor you have have to die physically and wait until the end of the world (The resurrection at the Last Day as Martha says) to be Resurrected. In fact, if you do wait till that time to be resurrected, you won't see life! The First resurrection is right here and now and without it, you are subject to the second death! But if you have part in this First Resurrection (in Christ) the second death hath no power over you. And that is exactly what Revelation 20 said about the First Resurrection.

He that liveth and believeth is Resurrected in Christ so that he'll never die (physical death yes, the second death, No). And he that is dead (as these martyred souls John saw), don't really die, because they had part in that 1st Resurrection in Christ. i.e., as Christ said, the true Believer will never die! That scenario is only possible if they have part in the First Resurrection, which is in Christ. When a believer is martyred, his soul leaves the body, and he goes to live and reign with Christ forever (Symbolized by the number 1000 years). Because He had part in the First Resurrection. And that of course is what John was talking about in Revelation 20. Souls of the Martyrs, not people reigning on earth. John, seeing those souls in heaven, sees the First Resurrection.

Symbolism
Thrones = Reigning
Beheaded = Martyrdom for Christ
Beast = The Kingdom of Satan (as a Ravenous beast to devour)
Mark of the Beast = Signifies coming into Servitude to Satan's Kingdom
Forehead = The Mind
Hand = The Will

Because this messenger came and bound satan, these souls of believers can go to live and Reign with Christ, "because" He has made them the First Resurrection, that they would never truly die.

...Which brings us perfectly to Revelation 20:5 on the next post:

 

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Revelation 20:5

• "But the rest of the dead, lived not again until the 1000 years were finished. This is the First Resurrection".

Some Premillennial Theologians use this verse as support for the idea that there are at least two physical resurrections with a literal earthly millennial reign in between. However, scripture clearly teaches "one" future resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked. For example:

John 5:28-29

• "Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
• And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."

This is the SECOND Resurrection (not the first in Christ) and this is what is described in Revelation 20:12. The First resurrection is in Christ. This verse of Revelation is conclusive proof that this is speaking about the souls of those martyred who were Saved, and who died physically as it's contrasted against the souls of "the rest of the dead" (the unsaved, who died physically). As believers in Christ those martyred, in their souls go immediately to live and reign with Christ after they die. They are living and reigning with Christ ever since He went to the cross to make that possible. We live and reign with Christ in heaven in our souls, even though our bodies decayed, yet we live. That's exactly what the verse is talking about. Believers who die, yet their souls living and reigning with Christ, while unbelievers (the rest of the dead) who die, don't live again until the second resurrection.

Ecclesiastes 12:7

• "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it".

2nd Corinthians 5:8

• "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord".

When believers leave this body to dust, our spirits go to be with the Lord. But the rest of the dead, they lived not until after this present millennial reign. These unsaved weren't raised up from death to new life in the first Resurrection in Christ, therefore they cannot go to live and reign with Christ after death. That is the contrast here. In other words, they had no part in the First Resurrection with Christ! And so when they died, they don't live until raised at "The last day" to stand for judgment. That will be the Second Resurrection. Again, spoken of as, "after the thousand years" (indicating once again that it is not to be taken as literally a thousand, because the rest of the dead die at all different times). Lets take a look at what it says here, and what is meant by it.


1st Resurrection:

Every single believer who has been raised up in Christ to new life, hath part in this 1st resurrection. Remember the scriptures talk of Christ as the "FIRST BORN FROM THE DEAD." If that's not the 1st Resurrection from the dead, the new birth in Christ, then nothing is. He is the Resurrection as He told Martha, and all those raised WITH HIM hath part in that first Resurrection. They are the Church of the firstborn. On these, the second death hath no power. Of course not, for they never die again! ..He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

2nd Resurrection:

The second coming, at the last trumpet, at the last day, when we that are alive will be raised up to meet Jesus in the air, and Judgment day when the rest of the dead (unsaved who have died) are all are raised up to stand for Judgment.

1st Death:

The death in Adam which all of mankind has suffered and which if they are not resurrected in Christ from that death, they shall suffer the judgement in the second resurrection.

2nd Death:

The Judgment that is meted out By GOD upon the unrighteous. HELL! There shall be weeping and grinding of teeth! This is the death that the wages of sin brings forth. It's punishment. The 1st Resurrection (Those raised in Christ) have no need to worry about this, as the power of the Cross of Christ (1st Resurrection) has taken away the sting of death.

We see these thousand years are different for each group, and cannot logically or rationally be the same thousand years if that means literally a thousand. Simply put, verse five tells us that the rest of the dead, those who weren't Saved by having part in Christ's Resurrection (The First) remained dead, and they didn't live again until after the thousand years. That's not speculation, that's what the scriptures clearly say. And after the fullness of God's purpose, which is a different length of time for each of the dead, then they will be raised to stand for Judgment. Those who make the claim that the first Resurrection is not in Christ are contradicting God's Word. God tells us point blank that Christ is the First Resurrection. And he who hath an ear, let him hear and receive it.

Acts 26:23

• "That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the First Resurrection from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles".

So then, who are we going to believe, God or man? His interpretation, or our own? These are the same exact Greek words used in Revelation chapter twenty (First Resurrection). So there should be no debate but that Christ's raising from the dead is the 'First Resurrection,' according to God's Word. This is not an interpretation or my spin on it, it's a direct unadulterated "Quote." That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the 'First Resurrection' from the dead. And we, raised up in him have part in that First Resurrection. We are the Church of the Firstborn from the dead.

Colossians 1:18

• "And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence".
  

Hebrews 12:23

• "To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect"

These are the souls of believers, the First Resurrection, upon which the second death has no power, they live, while the unsaved dead do not. It all fits when the thousand years is not forced to mean something God never intended it to mean. It will never fit when it's forced to mean literally a thousand years. The ones raised up in Christ lived and reigned with him through the thousand years as the Church is being built, but the "rest" of the dead (Unsaved dead) didn't live Again until after the thousand years, when Christ returns to rapture his Church and raise these dead to stand for Judgment.

Remember what the "souls" of those under the altar cried in Revelation 6:10, and Remember God's reply to them? His reply was that they should rest for a season, for there were more people to be martyred. You see, these are the "souls" reigning a thousand years in heaven, not "men" reigning on earth with Christ in an earthly city of Jerusalem as some Theologians surmise. Christians who have died (physically) and gone to heaven, yet living and Reigning with Christ in their souls' existence! God will not Judge till the fullness of His martyrs has come in. He will not loose the judgment of Satan till His set time. Not until His Church is come to the full. This is the marvelous truth of God's Word. And the sad contradiction to those who try and make these souls of 1000 years speak of a literal 1000-year reign of Christ on this sin-cursed earth with men.

 

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You see, these are the "souls" reigning a thousand years in heaven, not "men" reigning on earth with Christ in an earthly city of Jerusalem as some Theologians surmise. Christians who have died (physically) and gone to heaven, yet living and Reigning with Christ in their souls' existence!

Explain then; Why do those souls need to cry out to God for the Judgment of their killers?

And the sad contradiction to those who try and make these souls of 1000 years speak of a literal 1000-year reign of Christ on this sin-cursed earth with men.

What is sad, is how AMill believers play fast and loose with Revelation 20, the plainly stated mention of the thousand year reign of Jesus.

Amos 9:13-15 The time is surely coming, says the Lord, when the one who plows shall overtake the one who reaps, and the treader of grapes, the one who sows the seed; the mountains shall drip sweet wine, all the hills shall flow with it. I will restore the fortunes of My people, Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit. I will plant them upon their Land and they shall never again be plucked up out of the Land I have given them.

That scripture promises restoration for a devastated land and a scattered people and it does so in a beautiful description of overflowing fertility in field and vineyard along with an unqualified pledge of “never again” for His faithful people, from every tribe, race nation and language, Revelation 5:9-10, Isaiah 66:18b-21, to be dispossessed.

Bible prophecy refers to a divinely established Utopia (Greek- good place) in which, God puts an end to this world of injustice and unrighteousness on earth and replaces it with a world of justice and righteousness on earth.

This end times Kingdom is the covenantal kingdom, brought to its ultimate perfection and ideal consummation, here on earth. Hebrews 8:8-12 It will last for 1000 years, as Revelation 20 clearly informs us.

Daniel 7:27 The Kingly power, sovereignty and greatness of all the Kingdoms under heaven will be given to the Holy people of the Most High. Their Kingly power will last for ever and every realm will serve and obey them.

So, how will the God of justice and righteousness treat the Gentiles in establishing this utopian Kingdom on earth?

Micah 4:1-2 In days to come, the Lords House will tower above the hills. The nations will stream toward it, saying; Let us go to the House of Jacob’s God, that He may teach us His ways, for instruction comes from Zion. [and in Isaiah 2:2-4]

Zechariah 8:20 Nations and dwellers in many cities will come to Jerusalem to entreat the favour of the Lord. Zechariah 14:16-21

Those warlike and idol worshipping peoples will be converted to godly worship, under a God of justice and peace. They will not become Israelites, but all will live together under God. This will be the situation after Jesus Returns, during His Millennium rule.

But we know from the many prophesies like Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 34:11-16, that the time is coming when all the Lord’s faithful Christian people will go to live in all of the holy Land, BEFORE the Return of Jesus. They will, at last, be as God always intended His people to be, His witnesses and His Light to the nations. Isaiah 42:6, Isaiah 43:10, John 15:27, Isaiah 49:8, Matthew 5:14-16

Psalms 37:29 The righteous shall possess the Land and will live there forever.

 

[Oseas]

So you are thinking that Jesus returns in 2030, perhaps earlier, ... ?

Something like that.

The beast out of the earth in Revelation 13 will be the false prophet - not a false messiah. He will probably be kabbalistic though.

In the first half of the last week the false messiah will manifest himself like Christ, like a lamb as is written, in fact a false Christ, course, an ESOTERIC, and kabbalistic, and SPIRITIST Christ, a false lamb, and he will work (in the first half of the last week) as a prophet as was in the Old Testament, for us a false prophet, but for he himself he is a prophet of the Jews and they will receive him as a prophet, something like this, in the beginning of his manifestation. The two horns reveal his origin, his roots, by the way, the Jews would never accept a prophet who was not a Jew, of course.

Now see, to incorporate and merge Catholicism and Judaism-iron and clay-when the false prophet gives his Power, and his Throne (in Jerusalem), and great Authority to the Beast of sea, the Pope(I have said this countless times), and the Pope (the next one to be elected) be enthroned in Jerusalem by the false prophet (for the time being as a prophet) until the end of the first half of the last week, it will occur that and in that fusion the Beast of the sea, the Papacy through the Pope, the so-called prince of the RCC, will have linked to its religious structure the 10 horns and their 10 diadems, symbolically the 10 tribes of Israel and respective titles of nobility, biblically 10 princes of each tribe. And in that time still to come (UNDERSTAND) the dragon will have dominated worldwide Catholicism as a whole, that is, the 7 heads of the Beast of the sea; then the dragon will exercise all the power of the first Beast-the Papacy/the Pope- before him, as follow:

Revelation 13:12-14

12 And he (the esoteric, and kabbalistic and spiritist Beast of earth like a lamb, a false lamb) exerciseth all the power of the first Beast (the Beast of sea, a Gentile Beast) before him, and causeth the earth (earth here is Israel) and them which dwell therein to worship the first Beast (the Beast of sea-GREAT DELUSION), whose deadly wound was (will be) healed.

13 And he (the esoteric, and kabbalistic and spiritist Beast of earth like a lamb, a false lamb) doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth(Israel) by the means of those (SPIRITIST) miracles which he has power to do in the sight of the Beast (in the sight of the Beast of sea who was ENTHRONED in Jerusalem by the false prophet ) ; saying to them that dwell on the earth(Israel), that they should make an image to the Beast(image of the Pope), which had the wound by a Sword, and did live. (The Sword is the Word of GOD, self-executing)

15 And he (the esoteric, and kabbalistic and spiritist Beast of earth like a lamb, a false lamb) has power to give life unto the image of the Beast, that the image of the Beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the Beast should be killed (in LITERAL fulfillment of Matthew 24:15 to 23. (You know, but check it again. Will be terrible, very very terrible).

Furthermore, the court which is without the temple will be given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months when the Pope be enthroned in Israel by the false prophet.

Still in the first haalf of the last week, the Jews will worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the Beast(unto the Beast of sea): and they worshipped the Beast, saying, Who is like unto the Beast? who is able to make WAR with him? (Michael is able-Revelation 12). And there was given unto him(unto the Beast of sea, so-called prince of the RCC) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.(Revelation 11:2, when Jerusalem be trodden by the Gentiles)
And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God(against JESUS, evidently, antichrist), to blaspheme his NAME, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was(will be) given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth(Israel) shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear - Revelation 13:4 to 9.

All SATANIC events above described will occur in the first half of the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:24-27, and once finished the first half of the week, the false prophet will replace the Pope which was enthroned before and now, IN THE SECOND HALF OF THE LAST WEEK, he will sit in his throne as God, showing himself that he is the only God, and he will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, and having he empowered himself with the incorporation of his religious and SATANIC MONSTER called Roman Catholic Church, he will also say that HE IS THE MESSIAH and is God. So, Revelation 13:11-18 will LITERALLY fulfill, and the great harlot, the Roman Catholic Church will be anihilated as a whole until the END, and Revelation 18 will LITERALLY be fulfilled.

As was prophesied by Daniel : From the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. HERE the sacrifice of JESUS on the cross which has lasted in these last 2,000 years-730.000 days-until the current time, it will be taken out of the way; The Dispensation of the New Testament, the second Covenant, finished for ever.

- Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. The day 1.335 is the day of JESUS's return. Alleluia! - The millenial God's Kingdom begins - Revelation 11:15 to 18. take a look;

- Satan is laid hold, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and deceives the whole world, he will be bound a thousand years into the bottomless pit, and will be shut up, and a seal put in him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled:

To the only Wise God our Savior, be Glory and Majesty, Dominion and Power, both now and ever. Amen.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings(kings made by Him) and LORD of lords

Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for MANY, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, ... Luke 13:v.24-25.

 

[Douggg]

Furthermore, the court which is without the temple will be given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months when the Pope be enthroned in Israel by the false prophet.

Oseas, what do you mean "enthroned" ?

In John 5:43 when Jesus told the Jews that they would embrace another coming in his own name - the implication was embrace him as their King of Israel messiah descended from David.

The Antichrist person has to be a Jew.

"anti" - instead of, and/or against...... Christ Jesus. So that person is going to be totally against Christianity. The Pope is viewed as being associated with Christianity.

So in your scenario that the Jews to worship a Pope as some point is too farfetched... and inconsistent with the Bible.

The Jews, in fact, when the Antichrist betrays his own religion of Judaism, by claiming to b God, is killed for it and comes back to life as the beast - will not worship him. The Jews will have turned to Jesus, realizing their mistake in thinking the Antichrist was their messiah.
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Oseas, I know you want to devise a scenario whereby the Pope/papacy are the beast from the sea - because you see the fallacies in the Roman Catholic doctrines and beliefs, just as I do - but that does not add up with the realities, commons sense, nor the prophecies in the Word of God.


Instead, the beast from the sea will be a Jew. And the false prophet will be a Jew.

What the Jews are looking for is their messiah, who will be anointed the King of Israel, by a known prophet. And since they are also looking for Elijah, the prophet, to coming as well - and the second beast, the "false" prophet will do miracles such as calling fire down from heaven - it is likely that he will be thought to be Elijah.

And the false messianic age will begin. Until iniquity will be found in the Antichrist and False Prophet, because they will succumb to the lies of Satan.

 

[Oseas]

Oseas, what do you mean "enthroned" ?

A dictionary of your native language will explain better than I.

In John 5:43 when Jesus told the Jews that they would embrace another coming in his own name - the implication was embrace him as their King of Israel messiah descended from David.

The Antichrist person has to be a Jew.

What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, understand? And JESUS His EXPRESS IMAGE, yes, EXPRESS IMAGE, understand?
You should know and understand by the Word of GOD that the Devil, in whatever "title" he may manifest himself, whether as king as you wish he be, or as God according 2 Thess.2:3-4, or prophet(false prophet) according Revelation 16:13, in sum, whatever his demonic title, one thing is certain, the Devil will NEVER be a descendant of David as you believe and you still testify. It's a blasphemy. In my understand, the most probably he descends from the tribe of Dan-Genesis 49:17and Genesis 3:15.

 

[Douggg]

A dictionary of your native language will explain better than I.

I know what the definition of enthroned means - to be made a king. My question to you, in context of of what you wrote about the Jews enthroning some Pope as as king - king of what ?

The only thing the Jews have power to enthrone someone as - is to be their King of Israel. But the Pope is not qualified. He is not a Jew.

 

[Oseas]

I know what the definition of enthroned means - to be made a king. My question to you, in context of of what you wrote about the Jews enthroning some Pope ... But the Pope is not qualified. He is not a Jew.

Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective. What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD.

Revelation 13:11 - I beheld ANOTHER Beast (a Jewish Beast) coming up out of the earth(earth here is Israel-the clay; the dry land, an Isle in the sea) and he has two horns(symbol of the two kingdoms of Israel) like a lamb (a false lamb, a false messiah, a false Christ) and he spake as a Dragon(he speaks as a dragon because he is the Dragon, own Satan incarnate).

Revelation 13:2 - the Beast which I saw(the Beast of sea) was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(here's the description of the roots/origin of the Beast of sea-Daniel 7:3-6) : and the dragon (the Jewish Beast-Revelation 13:11) gave him (gave to the Beast of sea - the Pope, the Papacy) his Power, and his Seat -in Jerusalem-Throne of Satan- , and great Authority.

The election of the last Pope - Will be his religious nickname Paulus VII?

The world press has just announced the death of Benedict XVI. The current Pope Francis is also on the brink of death. Then must be elected the last Pope, and he will be the husband No. 266 (excluding Peter Apostle) of the Great harlot, the Roman Catholic Church. By the way, would be his religious...

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Satan went up even to this heavenly region, we know that in the time of Adam Satan was simply called Serpent, currently his body has changed a lot, and now his body has 7 heads; Satan incorporated the Beast of the sea to his body, that is, the Papacy, and the Great harlot which rides upon the Pope, the Roman Catholic Church, the birthplace/cradle of the antichrist, and has 10 horns-10 tribes of Israel ruled by him, and 7 diadems, referring to the last Pope(nicknamed Paulus VII-?), and a TAIL; according Isaiah 9:15-16.

See the difference of Satan from Adam's time and Satan of the current time

If we compare the generation of Adam's time, when the sons of GOD were still before the Lord and Satan among them going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it; with the Christians generations, after the Ministry of JESUS, i.e. to compare with the generations of the sons of...

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[Douggg]

Revelation 13:11 - I beheld ANOTHER Beast (a Jewish Beast) coming up out of the earth(earth here is Israel-the clay; the dry land, an Isle in the sea) and he has two horns(symbol of the two kingdoms of Israel) like a lamb (a false lamb, a false messiah, a false Christ) and he spake as a Dragon(he speaks as a dragon because he is the Dragon, own Satan incarnate).

Revelation 13:2 - the Beast which I saw(the Beast of sea) was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(here's the description of the roots/origin of the Beast of sea-Daniel 7:3-6) : and the dragon (the Jewish Beast-Revelation 13:11) gave him (gave to the Beast of sea - the Pope, the Papacy) his Power, and his Seat -in Jerusalem-Throne of Satan- , and great Authority.

Why would Satan (incarnating the Jewish beast in your scenario) want the Pope to be worshiped ?

 

[Oseas]

Why would Satan (incarnating the Jewish beast in your scenario) want the Pope to be worshiped ?

Don't you know the why? Oh it is not easy to speak of that so great mystery. Well, English is not my native language, but I will try do describe the why the best I can.

First, this was an ancient and long-term plan devised / conceived by Satan, as is revealed and written in Isaiah 14:13-15, but it only can be started or would be started and executed or put into effect only after Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon. Verse 13 - For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my THRONE above the stars of GOD: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
verse 14 - I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. ---> (See, Psalm 48:2 reveals: Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth(Israel), is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King- JESUS). So, the plan of Satan was to exalt his throne and sit upon the mount of the congregation, mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King- JESUS). The Antichrist.

The prophecy, the Word of GOD, reveals and describes this so old plan of Satan through the prophet Daniel, and it is detailed with precision in Revelation. Great mysteries.

According the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, the Jewish Beast-Revelation 13:11- is the EXPRESS IMAGE of the old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, now the great dragon, and it was/is he who introduced the apostasy in the former Church of the LORD, and he is who developed the apostate church of Rome, the Roman Catholic Church, and also it is he who created the Papacy within the former Church of the LORD.

By allegory, Satan was working on his ancient and diabolical plan to fashion a Church, a woman, for a future marriage, actually it was from/by Satan that was born the great harlot in Rome, the apocaliptical prophecy reveals her as The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth, with whom the kings of the earth (10 kings-10 horns-former princes of Israel's tribes, now as kings) would commit fornications, and the inhabitants of the earth (Israel) would drink the wine of her fornications. And Satan placed the apostate Church of Rome upon a scarlet coloured Beast-the Papacy-the Beast of sea, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns-REVELATION 17:3 combined with Revelation 13:1-2.

And Satan arrayed the Church of Rome in purple and scarlet colour, and he decked her with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication.
The Church of Rome, the great harlot, belongs to Satan, but he still have not possessed her as his wife, he still needs to manifest himself, he needs first to reveal himself in accord his ancient and satanic plan. This will happen from now on, anytime, in the days to come, and he will do great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, and will deceive them that dwell on the earth(Israel) by the means of those miracles which he has power to do, even in the sight of the Beast of sea-the Papacy-the Pope and his great harlot-the Roman Catholic Church.

But one of the seven heads of the great harlot will be wounded to death from now on, in my vision the South America, then the dragon, i.e. Satan, still as a false prophet, on his Seat in Jerusalem, will work to heal the wounded head of the Great harlot. How? Giving to the Beast of sea -the Papacy- his Power, and his Seat in Jerusalem (Satan's throne), and great Authority-Revelation 13:2- and the wounded head of the Beast of sea will be healed.

Then will be started a kind of courtship-flirtation between both satanic Beasts, and the opening of the way for Satan to link or to incorporate to him the very ancient Papacy and his monstrous religious structures of around 2,000 years age -the Roman Catholic Church- being him now like a universal religious ruler, as a religious global ruler according his very ancient and devilish plan.

Once concluded the satanic marriage of the Devil -the marriage of the false messiah with the Great harlot-the Roman Catholic Church-, and being the Pope placed on the Seat of the false prophet in Israel-Jerusalem- during 42 months-first half of the last week, then the dragon, Satan, the son of perdition, will manifest and deify himself as messiah, and he will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in Jerusalem saying he is God, where he will really be enthroned as a messiah exactly in the beginning of the second half of the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:24-27, showing from himself that he is God.

JESUS said: Whoso readeth, let him understand, When ye therefore shall SEE the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place-JERUSALEM-, Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

JESUS said that then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christ, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, shall deceive the very elect.

And JESUS warned: Behold, I have told you before.

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And as Paul apostle in his time said: 2 Thessalonians 2: 7-12

"The mystery of iniquity doth ALREADY work: only He who now lets will let until He be taken out of the way", then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth-HIS WORDS-, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause GOD shall send them STRONG DELUSION(a false messiah), that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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[Douggg]

Don't you know the why? Oh it is not easy to speak of that so great mystery. Well, English is not my native language, but I will try do describe the why the best I can.

First, this was an ancient and long-term plan devised / conceived by Satan, as is revealed and written in Isaiah 14:13-15, but it only can be started or would be started and executed or put into effect only after Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon. Verse 13 - For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my THRONE above the stars of GOD: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
verse 14 - I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. ---> (See, Psalm 48:2 reveals: Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth(Israel), is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King- JESUS). So, the plan of Satan was to exalt his throne and sit upon the mount of the congregation, mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King- JESUS). The Antichrist.

The prophecy, the Word of GOD, reveals and describes this so old plan of Satan through the prophet Daniel, and it is detailed with precision in Revelation. Great mysteries.

According the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, the Jewish Beast-Revelation 13:11- is the EXPRESS IMAGE of the old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, now the great dragon, and it was/is he who introduced the apostasy in the former Church of the LORD, and he is who developed the apostate church of Rome, the Roman Catholic Church, and also it is he who created the Papacy within the former Church of the LORD.

By allegory, Satan was working on his ancient and diabolical plan to fashion a Church, a woman, for a future marriage, actually it was from/by Satan that was born the great harlot in Rome, the apocaliptical prophecy reveals her as The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth, with whom the kings of the earth (10 kings-10 horns-former princes of Israel's tribes, now as kings) would commit fornications, and the inhabitants of the earth (Israel) would drink the wine of her fornications. And Satan placed the apostate Church of Rome upon a scarlet coloured Beast-the Papacy-the Beast of sea, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns-REVELATION 17:3 combined with Revelation 13:1-2.

And Satan arrayed the Church of Rome in purple and scarlet colour, and he decked her with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication.
The Church of Rome, the great harlot, belongs to Satan, but he still have not possessed her as his wife, he still needs to manifest himself, he needs first to reveal himself in accord his ancient and satanic plan. This will happen from now on, anytime, in the days to come, and he will do great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, and will deceive them that dwell on the earth(Israel) by the means of those miracles which he has power to do, even in the sight of the Beast of sea-the Papacy-the Pope and his great harlot-the Roman Catholic Church.

But one of the seven heads of the great harlot will be wounded to death from now on, in my vision the South America, then the dragon, i.e. Satan, still as a false prophet, on his Seat in Jerusalem, will work to heal the wounded head of the Great harlot. How? Giving to the Beast of sea -the Papacy- his Power, and his Seat in Jerusalem (Satan's throne), and great Authority-Revelation 13:2- and the wounded head of the Beast of sea will be healed.

Then will be started a kind of courtship-flirtation between both satanic Beasts, and the opening of the way for Satan to link or to incorporate to him the very ancient Papacy and his monstrous religious structures of around 2,000 years age -the Roman Catholic Church- being him now like a universal religious ruler, as a religious global ruler according his very ancient and devilish plan.

Once concluded the satanic marriage of the Devil -the marriage of the false messiah with the Great harlot-the Roman Catholic Church-, and being the Pope placed on the Seat of the false prophet in Israel-Jerusalem- during 42 months-first half of the last week, then the dragon, Satan, the son of perdition, will manifest and deify himself as messiah, and he will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in Jerusalem saying he is God, where he will really be enthroned as a messiah exactly in the beginning of the second half of the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:24-27, showing from himself that he is God.

JESUS said: Whoso readeth, let him understand, When ye therefore shall SEE the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place-JERUSALEM-, Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

JESUS said that then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christ, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, shall deceive the very elect.

And JESUS warned: Behold, I have told you before.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~.

And as Paul apostle in his time said: 2 Thessalonians 2: 7-12

"The mystery of iniquity doth ALREADY work: only He who now lets will let until He be taken out of the way", then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth-HIS WORDS-, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause GOD shall send them STRONG DELUSION(a false messiah), that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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Oseas, I don't think you answered the question. Try again in just a few sentences. Why would Satan (incarnating the Jewish beast) want the world to worship the Pope, the figure-head of the Christian church, as claimed by Catholics around the world - instead of himself (Satan)?

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Your scenario is wrong, Oseas. I will explain in just these few sentences...


The first beast, the one out of the sea, will be a Jewish perceived messiah (the Antichrist) who goes bad and claims to be God.

The second beast, the one out of the earth, will be a Jewish false prophet.

Satan will incarnate the statue image of the first beast, and the unsaved world will worship the statue image, not realizing they are worshiping Satan.

 

[Oseas]

Oseas, I don't think you answered the question. Try again in just a few sentences. Why would Satan (incarnating the Jewish beast) want the world to worship the Pope, the figure-head of the Christian church, as claimed by Catholics around the world - instead of himself (Satan)?

Didn't you understand yet? No surprise, the spirit of your idolatrous icon including the CURSE of cross in, it prevents you from understanding.

What was Satan's purpose in introducing the antichrist spirit and keeping it for around 2,000 years in the Church of my Lord JESUS in Rome, whose Church was developed mainly by the Apostle Paul; and through apostasy, and demonic doctrines, and through of satanic and millennial pontifical / Papal successions, to develop a religious and satanic MONSTER having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy?

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[Lost Witness]

Oseas is convinced that the ETERNAL Holy Spirit of the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, is the younger Brother of the LORD Jesus Christ.

IS NOT THE PERSON OF HOLY SPIRIT THE LAWFUL / LEGITIMATE YOUNGER BROTHER OF JESUS? LUKE 15:v.32

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[Douggg]

Didn't you understand yet? No surprise, the spirit of your idolatrous icon including the CURSE of cross in, it prevents you from understanding.

What was Satan's purpose in introducing the antichrist spirit and keeping it for around 2,000 years in the Church of my Lord JESUS in Rome, whose Church was developed mainly by the Apostle Paul; and through apostasy, and demonic doctrines, and through of satanic and millennial pontifical / Papal successions, to develop a religious and satanic MONSTER having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy?

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Oseas, I guess you did not understand the question. I will not trouble you anymore.

 

[Oseas]

Oseas is convinced that the ETERNAL Holy Spirit of the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, is the younger Brother of the LORD Jesus Christ.

IS NOT THE PERSON OF HOLY SPIRIT THE LAWFUL / LEGITIMATE YOUNGER BROTHER OF JESUS? LUKE 15:v.32

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Yes, according link posted. Believe you or not, he is a Gentile GOD's son - Revelation 12:v.1 combined with Luke 15:32. Great mystery. He has not genealogy. By the way, JESUS, is the Word made flesh - the Word is GOD - , but His younger brother -Luke 15:32 combined with Revelation 12:1 - , is not the Word made flesh , being a Gentile GOD's son, he was born like John the Baaptist, or even Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, whose descent is not counted, wthout father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life ( like JESUS has in the Holy Scriptures); but made like unto the Son of God; abides a priest continually.

Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory. As it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for them that love Him. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches.

God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God has chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty, and base things of the world, and things which are despised, has God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are. Well, he that glories, let him glory in the Lord, not in he himself..

Isaiah 14:27and 32 Complete Jewish Bible

27 - The Lord has made his decision.
Who is there that can stop him?
He has stretched out his hand.
Who can turn it back?

32 - And what is one to answer
the messengers of the nation?
That the Lord founded Tziyon (Zion),
and there the poor of his people will find refuge. (He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.)

His mercy is on them that fear Him from generation to generation. He has shewed strength with His arm; He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. He has put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree or he has put down the mighty and raised up the lowly.

The Word is GOD.

 

[Timtofly]

Did Adam die when he ate of the tree? Yes, but not physically, he died spiritually.

Of course he died physically. He lost the permanent incorruptible physical body, and was given a body of death, now called mortal, corruptible, and temporal. Adam lost his spirit as well. That is both physical and spiritual death. The soul was left only a mortal body of death. The soul was separated from the given image of God which was a permanent incorruptible physical body and a spirit placed over the body, the robe of white. The robe of white is only given back to the redeemed at the 5th Seal. That is the point of the 5th Seal, the putting on immortality or the spirit that makes us spiritually dead until that is completed. We are currently in Christ to be made complete, we are not yet fully restored into the image of God as sons of God. Yes we are sons of God, but it doth not yet appear what we shall be, until the Second Coming. That would be at the 5th and 6th Seals.

 

[FredVB]

Don't you know the why? Oh it is not easy to speak of that so great mystery. Well, English is not my native language, but I will try do describe the why the best I can.

First, this was an ancient and long-term plan devised / conceived by Satan, as is revealed and written in Isaiah 14:13-15, but it only can be started or would be started and executed or put into effect only after Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon. Verse 13 - For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my THRONE above the stars of GOD: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
verse 14 - I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. ---> (See, Psalm 48:2 reveals: Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth(Israel), is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King- JESUS). So, the plan of Satan was to exalt his throne and sit upon the mount of the congregation, mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King- JESUS). The Antichrist.

The prophecy, the Word of GOD, reveals and describes this so old plan of Satan through the prophet Daniel, and it is detailed with precision in Revelation. Great mysteries.

According the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, the Jewish Beast-Revelation 13:11- is the EXPRESS IMAGE of the old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, now the great dragon, and it was/is he who introduced the apostasy in the former Church of the LORD, and he is who developed the apostate church of Rome, the Roman Catholic Church, and also it is he who created the Papacy within the former Church of the LORD.

By allegory, Satan was working on his ancient and diabolical plan to fashion a Church, a woman, for a future marriage, actually it was from/by Satan that was born the great harlot in Rome, the apocaliptical prophecy reveals her as The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth, with whom the kings of the earth (10 kings-10 horns-former princes of Israel's tribes, now as kings) would commit fornications, and the inhabitants of the earth (Israel) would drink the wine of her fornications. And Satan placed the apostate Church of Rome upon a scarlet coloured Beast-the Papacy-the Beast of sea, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns-REVELATION 17:3 combined with Revelation 13:1-2.

And Satan arrayed the Church of Rome in purple and scarlet colour, and he decked her with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication.
The Church of Rome, the great harlot, belongs to Satan, but he still have not possessed her as his wife, he still needs to manifest himself, he needs first to reveal himself in accord his ancient and satanic plan. This will happen from now on, anytime, in the days to come, and he will do great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, and will deceive them that dwell on the earth(Israel) by the means of those miracles which he has power to do, even in the sight of the Beast of sea-the Papacy-the Pope and his great harlot-the Roman Catholic Church.

But one of the seven heads of the great harlot will be wounded to death from now on, in my vision the South America, then the dragon, i.e. Satan, still as a false prophet, on his Seat in Jerusalem, will work to heal the wounded head of the Great harlot. How? Giving to the Beast of sea -the Papacy- his Power, and his Seat in Jerusalem (Satan's throne), and great Authority-Revelation 13:2- and the wounded head of the Beast of sea will be healed.

Then will be started a kind of courtship-flirtation between both satanic Beasts, and the opening of the way for Satan to link or to incorporate to him the very ancient Papacy and his monstrous religious structures of around 2,000 years age -the Roman Catholic Church- being him now like a universal religious ruler, as a religious global ruler according his very ancient and devilish plan.

Once concluded the satanic marriage of the Devil -the marriage of the false messiah with the Great harlot-the Roman Catholic Church-, and being the Pope placed on the Seat of the false prophet in Israel-Jerusalem- during 42 months-first half of the last week, then the dragon, Satan, the son of perdition, will manifest and deify himself as messiah, and he will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in Jerusalem saying he is God, where he will really be enthroned as a messiah exactly in the beginning of the second half of the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:24-27, showing from himself that he is God.

JESUS said: Whoso readeth, let him understand, When ye therefore shall SEE the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place-JERUSALEM-, Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

JESUS said that then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christ, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, shall deceive the very elect.

And JESUS warned: Behold, I have told you before.

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And as Paul apostle in his time said: 2 Thessalonians 2: 7-12

"The mystery of iniquity doth ALREADY work: only He who now lets will let until He be taken out of the way", then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth-HIS WORDS-, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause GOD shall send them STRONG DELUSION(a false messiah), that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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There is a lot if interpretation with use of scripture passages, as these, and I cannot see that the same way. That church or any church still does not fit prophecy as well. The descriptions of what is called Mystery Babylon in biblical prophecy found in the book of Revelation fits the cities of civilization, all together, most closely, with the ungodliness in selfishness, materialism, exploitation without limitation, and destructiveness. God is against it as it is turned against godliness and our purpose to be on this earth, civilization was started without God, even if God made use of ways to spread the opportunities with the gospel through it, God does not mean to have it last, certainly not while the world worsens with it here. We were shown how to live in this world, we do not belong here to remain in cities of civilization, and we are to come out. There is nothing we need to come out from more. And civilization has reached all seven continents, so we would have to make real effort, with others, to become separate from it, not being in any urban cities. No fall will be greater.

 

[FredVB]

Yes, according link posted. Believe you or not, he is a Gentile GOD's son - Revelation 12:v.1 combined with Luke 15:32. Great mystery. He has not genealogy. By the way, JESUS, is the Word made flesh - the Word is GOD - , but His younger brother -Luke 15:32 combined with Revelation 12:1 - , is not the Word made flesh , being a Gentile GOD's son, he was born like John the Baaptist, or even Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, whose descent is not counted, wthout father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life ( like JESUS has in the Holy Scriptures); but made like unto the Son of God; abides a priest continually.

Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory. As it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for them that love Him. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches.

God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God has chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty, and base things of the world, and things which are despised, has God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are. Well, he that glories, let him glory in the Lord, not in he himself..

Isaiah 14:27and 32 Complete Jewish Bible

27 - The Lord has made his decision.
Who is there that can stop him?
He has stretched out his hand.
Who can turn it back?

32 - And what is one to answer
the messengers of the nation?
That the Lord founded Tziyon (Zion),
and there the poor of his people will find refuge. (He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.)

His mercy is on them that fear Him from generation to generation. He has shewed strength with His arm; He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. He has put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree or he has put down the mighty and raised up the lowly.

The Word is GOD.

You are showing you get interpretations from Bible passages that are not seen in themselves. There are passages clearly showing Christ the Son is one with God the Father, and God in that unity as the Word of God, and the Spirit of God is God, this unity is throughout eternity, always having been and always still being.

Of course he died physically. He lost the permanent incorruptible physical body, and was given a body of death, now called mortal, corruptible, and temporal. Adam lost his spirit as well. That is both physical and spiritual death. The soul was left only a mortal body of death. The soul was separated from the given image of God which was a permanent incorruptible physical body and a spirit placed over the body, the robe of white. The robe of white is only given back to the redeemed at the 5th Seal. That is the point of the 5th Seal, the putting on immortality or the spirit that makes us spiritually dead until that is completed. We are currently in Christ to be made complete, we are not yet fully restored into the image of God as sons of God. Yes we are sons of God, but it doth not yet appear what we shall be, until the Second Coming. That would be at the 5th and 6th Seals.

Death came into creation with the fall when the original man disobeyed in rebellion to God. Sin, any sin, brings curse into the world, separating the world with us from God's providence. God is still gracious and so Christ was sent, the incarnation of the Word with God who is God, for restoration of the repentant through the atonement with their response of faith, those ones can be delivered with creation that groans for that restoration, with all the curse on the world with those unrepentant thrown to where there is fair justice after judgment.

Death came as God said it would and that day death was on them and they were mortal, with them coming to their death. With more curse with more disobedience to God's will we come to our death even faster.