My Journey to Universalism

[BNR32FAN]

Ah yes, of course not. How silly of me! (maintaining eye contact and slowly walking backwards)

The verses I quoted clearly indicate that not everyone maintains “eye contact” with the Holy Spirit.

 

[Hmm]

The verses I quoted clearly indicate that not everyone maintains “eye contact” with the Holy Spirit.

Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Oh yes.

 

[Der Alte]

@HSong

It looks like someone (not too far from here) doesn't know their Corinthians 12:3

Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking by the Spirit of God ever says “Let Jesus be cursed!” and no one can say “Jesus is Lord” except by the Holy Spirit.​

Tut, tut

The usual UR-ite out-of-context proof text.
It looks like someone (not too far from here) does not know their Matthew 7:23.

Matthew 7:21-23
(21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
(22) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
(23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.​

Note carefully: Jesus said "Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;" Jesus did NOT say "Everyone will enter the kingdom of heaven!"
Then Jesus said MANY, not a few, will brag about all the good works they claim they did, but Jesus will say, "I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." When Jesus says "never" He means "never" not "someday by and by."

 

[HSong]

Thank you for the replies, everyone. For me, Christian Universalism, is like a journey. It's something that everyone must walk themselves. It's similar to the journey one goes through to believe in Jesus and be saved through faith alone. That journey of, thinking and understanding. I think that's why God created this life on Earth before Heaven. Everyone has to voluntarily choose of their own free will to be saved by Jesus Christ. If someone is born and in a happy heaven paradise forever already, they might not appreciate the truth if they didn't see the other side.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

1 Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient and kind

Though, of course, I wish that everyone could just attain that happiness already. But as shown with the Garden of Eden, God tried that and we rejected it by disobeying His will. But God does not give up! It was His original intention to have us in that perfect state, so He will make us into that, no matter how many times we try to disobey Him. Further, His patience and perseverance in saving us is evidence in how grateful and kind

Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned

Romans 5:15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!

 

[Der Alte]

Thank you for the replies, everyone. For me, Christian Universalism, is like a journey. It's something that everyone must walk themselves. It's similar to the journey one goes through to believe in Jesus and be saved through faith alone. That journey of, thinking and understanding. I think that's why God created this life on Earth before Heaven. Everyone has to voluntarily choose of their own free will to be saved by Jesus Christ. If someone is born and in a happy heaven paradise forever already, they might not appreciate the truth if they didn't see the other side.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.
1 Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient and kind
Though, of course, I wish that everyone could just attain that happiness already. But as shown with the Garden of Eden, God tried that and we rejected it by disobeying His will. But God does not give up! It was His original intention to have us in that perfect state, so He will make us into that, no matter how many times we try to disobey Him. Further, His patience and perseverance in saving us is evidence in how grateful and kind
Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned
Romans 5:15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!

Please see my [post #63]
immediately above your post#64, which I quote here.

"Jesus said "Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;" Jesus did NOT say "Everyone will enter the kingdom of heaven!"
Then Jesus said MANY, not a few, will brag about all the good works they claim they did, but Jesus will say, "I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." When Jesus says "never" He means "never" not "someday by and by."​

 

[Saint Steven]

I was born into a Christian household. We were in an extremely fundamentalist legalistic church, but we escaped. ...

LOL
That is so funny!
(from OP)

 

[Saint Steven]

All of these statements contradict the idea of universal reconciliation.

Surprisingly, I agree with that statement. Here's why...

All three of the doctrinal views of the final judgment have biblical support. As you partially noted, they are in contradiction with one another.

- Damnationism
- Annihilationism
- Christian Universalism (UR)

 

[Saint Steven]

Our Father ABBA has an outcome to any punishment of His wayward children. It is NOT unending torment but change & transformation.

The steadfast love of the Lord NEVER ceases!

Reminds me of this...

Mark 9:49
Everyone will be salted with fire.

Malachi 3:2
But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap.


The Refining Furnace

Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 18 “Son of man, the house of Israel has become dross to Me. All of them are copper, tin, iron, and lead inside the furnace; they are but the dross of silver. 19 Therefore this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘Because all of you have become dross, behold, I will gather you into Jerusalem. 20 Just as one gathers silver, copper, iron, lead, and tin into the furnace to melt with a fiery blast, so I will gather you in My anger and wrath, leave you there, and melt you. 21 Yes, I will gather you together and blow on you with the fire of My wrath, and you will be melted within the city. 22 As silver is melted in a furnace, so you will be melted within the city. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have poured out My wrath upon you.’ ” Ezekiel 22:17-22 (Berean Study Bible).

 

[Saint Steven]

Then everyone who says to Christ Lord Lord will enter Heaven? Matthew 7:21-23

Everyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will be forgiven? Luke 12:10

It would not have been better for Judas if he had never been born? Matthew 26:24

All those things need to be true.
That's a good rebuttal. However...

Those who say, "Lord, Lord" will need some more work before entering heaven.

It would have been better for Judas to have never been born. But does that mean ECT or Annihilation?

And... do we even understand what blasphemy the Holy Spirit is? That's a difficult passage. And I don't agree with the consensus on that one.

 

[Saint Steven]

Obviously!
The declarations of Yah in both testaments are a complete picture of His purposes in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Every knee bowing in union within His Name in worship.

This reminds me of my rather long, and somewhat complete, explanation.

Anyone who has knees to bow and a tongue to speak, in heaven and on earth and under the earth (in the realm of the dead), will whole-heartedly, and without reservation, acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord. No one can say that “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit. If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” you will be saved. Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. (the reason for the bodily resurrection) Scriptural support below.

Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart
that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that
he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

Note on "acknowledge" in Philippians 2:11 from Strong's Concordance
S1843 eksomologéō (from 1537 /ek, "wholly out from," intensifying 3670 /homologéō, "say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back).

Further reading: (Isaiah 45:23, Romans 14:11, Philippians 2:10, Revelation 15:4)

 

[FineLinen]

The bible is very clear that there is eternal torment for the wicked. They will have a conscious existence in the afterlife. The Bible alone is why I reject the heretical teaching known as universalism.

Our Father who is in essence LOVE, torments not. He loves us with an exceedingly great love flowing out of Himself. What He does is change & transform the lost children of Adam1, every one.

Salvation is not an exclusive club for the few who make wise decisions regarding Him! He is the Saviour of ALL mankind with special emphasis on those who trust in Him (the malista).

 

[Der Alte]

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Reminds me of this...
Mark 9:49
Everyone will be salted with fire.

I will address each one of these out-of-context proof texts separately. Mark 9:49, Malachi 3:2 and Ezekiel 22:17-22
This vs. Mk 9:49 is quoted because UR-ites think it means all mankind will be saved by salt.
Here is what it means.

Leviticus 2:13
(13) And every oblation of thy meat offering shalt thou season with salt; neither shalt thou suffer the salt of the covenant of thy God to be lacking from thy meat offering: with all thine offerings thou shalt offer salt.​

Every acceptable meat offering will be salted. The offering must first be clean and acceptable, the salt does not make it clean and acceptable.
Everyone who is clean and acceptable will be salted with fire. If they are not already holy and clean the salting does nothing. It certainly does not save them.

 

[Der Alte]

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Reminds me of this... Mal 3:2...

I will address each one of these out-of-context proof texts separately. Mark 9:49, Malachi 3:2 and Ezekiel 22:17-22

Malachi 3:1-4
(1) Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
(2) But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
(3) And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.
(4) Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years.​

This out-of-context "proof text" has nothing to do with UR. It is addressed to the nation of Israel only, on one specific occasion.

 

[Der Alte]

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Reminds me of this...
The Refining Furnace
Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 18 “Son of man, the house of Israel has become dross to Me. All of them are copper, tin, iron, and lead inside the furnace; they are but the dross of silver. 19 Therefore this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘Because all of you have become dross, behold, I will gather you into Jerusalem. 20 Just as one gathers silver, copper, iron, lead, and tin into the furnace to melt with a fiery blast, so I will gather you in My anger and wrath, leave you there, and melt you. 21 Yes, I will gather you together and blow on you with the fire of My wrath, and you will be melted within the city. 22 As silver is melted in a furnace, so you will be melted within the city. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have poured out My wrath upon you.’ ” Ezekiel 22:17-22 (Berean Study Bible).

Yet another out-of-context proof passage.

Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 18 “Son of man, the house of Israel has become dross to Me. All of them [Israel] are copper, tin, iron, and lead inside the furnace; they [Israel] are but the dross of silver. 19 Therefore this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘Because all of you [Israel] have become dross, behold, I will gather you [Israel] into Jerusalem. 20 Just as one gathers silver, copper, iron, lead, and tin into the furnace to melt with a fiery blast, so I will gather you [Israel] in My anger and wrath, leave you [Israel]there, and melt you.[Israel] 21 Yes, I will gather you [Israel] together and blow on you [Israel] with the fire of My wrath, and you [Israel] will be melted within the city. 22 As silver is melted in a furnace, so you [Israel] will be melted within the city. Then you [Israel] will know that I, the LORD, have poured out My wrath upon you [Israel].’ ” Ezekiel 22:17-22​

As you can see this passage has nothing to do with all mankind. It is how God dealt with Israel on one occasion.

 

[Der Alte]

Thank you for the replies, everyone. For me, Christian Universalism, is like a journey. It's something that everyone must walk themselves. It's similar to the journey one goes through to believe in Jesus and be saved through faith alone. That journey of, thinking and understanding. I think that's why God created this life on Earth before Heaven. Everyone has to voluntarily choose of their own free will to be saved by Jesus Christ. If someone is born and in a happy heaven paradise forever already, they might not appreciate the truth if they didn't see the other side.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.
1 Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient and kind
Though, of course, I wish that everyone could just attain that happiness already. But as shown with the Garden of Eden, God tried that and we rejected it by disobeying His will. But God does not give up! It was His original intention to have us in that perfect state, so He will make us into that, no matter how many times we try to disobey Him. Further, His patience and perseverance in saving us is evidence in how grateful and kind
Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned
Romans 5:15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!

When Paul wrote to the church at Rome do you suppose he forgot what he wrote to the churches at Corinth, Galatia and Ephesus?
1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21, Ephesians 5:5, 1 Corinthians 3:17

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: [no wrongdoer] neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Galatians 5:19-21
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know, that [no wrongdoer] no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
1 Corinthians 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.​

Twenty two categories of unrighteous people who have no inheritance in the kingdom of God.1. adulterers, 2. covetous, 3. drunkenness, 4. effeminate, 5. emulations, 6. envious, 7. extortion 8. fornication, 9. hatred, 10. heresies, 11. homosexuals, 12. idolators, 13. lasciviousness, 14. murder, 15. reveling, 16. revilers 17. sedition, 18. strife, 19. thieves, 20. uncleanness 21. witchcraft. 22. Wrath

 

[FineLinen]

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Anyone who has knees to bow and a tongue to speak, in heaven and on earth and under the earth (in the realm of the dead), will whole-heartedly, and without reservation, acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord. No one can say that “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

Steve: If we understand what it means to be in Christ, we are on our way to knowing what the confession of every being in every dimension of Father's world means.

The wee word "at" is IN[ in koine.

Every knee, every tongue, every dimension worshipping the Prince-Leader.

 

[Saint Steven]

The bible is very clear that there is eternal torment for the wicked. They will have a conscious existence in the afterlife. The Bible alone is why I reject the heretical teaching known as universalism.

What do you like best about hell? (since you are fighting tooth and nail to preserve it)
What is heretical really? Holding a position contrary to the "orthodox" position. (heterodox)
By definition, Jesus was a heretic. Seems that we're in pretty good company.
In reference to "eternal torment" being biblical, consider this. Thanks.

Aionios mistranslated as "eternal" and "everlasting" in Matthew 25:46.

All these verses below use the same NT Greek word, "aionios", the Greek word mistranslated as "eternal" and "everlasting" in Matthew 25:46. See bold below. This shows that "aionios" cannot mean eternal or everlasting.

Matthew 13:22
The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful.

Romans 12:2
Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

1 Corinthians 1:20
Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

1 Corinthians 2:8
None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Ephesians 2:2
in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.

Galatians 1:4-5 KJV
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Galatians 1:4-5 KJV
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Compare: Matthew 12:32; Mark 10:30; Luke 18:30; Luke 20:35; Ephesians 1:21

Luke 18:29-30
“Truly I tell you,” Jesus said to them, “no one who has left home or wife or brothers or sisters or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God 30 will fail to receive many times as much in this age, and in the age to come eternal life.”

Aionios, the Greek word mistranslated as "eternal" and "everlasting" in the Bible (eternal hell?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kfKQJfT0C8&t=770s

 

[Saint Steven]

Jude 4-7, 12-13
4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

5 Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home — these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

12 These men are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm — shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted — twice dead. 13 They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.



Revelation 21:8
8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars — their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

Revelation 19:20-21
20 But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.

These three references seem to contradict each other. So, which is it?
- the furnace of fire?
- blackest darkness? (wandering stars in Jude 4:13) ???
- eternal fire?
- outer darkness?
- lake of fire? (doesn't sound dark)

Portishead - Wandering Star

Please could you stay awhile to share my grief
For its such a lovely day
To have to always feel this way
And the time that I will suffer less
Is when I never have to wake

Wandering stars, for whom it is reserved
The blackness of darkness forever
Wandering stars, for whom it is reserved
The blackness of darkness forever ...
Those who have seen the needles eye, now tread
Like a husk, from which all that was, now has fled
And the masks, that the monsters wear
To feed, upon their prey

Wandering stars, for whom it is reserved
The blackness of darkness forever
Wandering stars, for whom it is reserved
The blackness of darkness forever (always) doubled up inside
Take awhile to shed my grief (always) doubled up inside
Taunted, cruel.... ...

Wandering stars, for whom it is reserved
The blackness of darkness forever
Wandering stars, for whom it is reserved
The blackness of darkness forever

 

[Der Alte]

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What do you like best about hell? (since you are fighting tooth and nail to preserve it)
What is heretical really? Holding a position contrary to the "orthodox" position. (heterodox)
By definition, Jesus was a heretic. Seems that we're in pretty good company.
In reference to "eternal torment" being biblical, consider this. Thanks.
Aionios mistranslated as "eternal" and "everlasting" in Matthew 25:46.
All these verses below use the same NT Greek word, "aionios", the Greek word mistranslated as "eternal" and "everlasting" in Matthew 25:46. See bold below. This shows that "aionios" cannot mean eternal or everlasting.
Matthew 13:22
The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful.
Romans 12:2
Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.
1 Corinthians 1:20
Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
1 Corinthians 2:8
None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Ephesians 2:2
in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.
Galatians 1:4-5 KJV
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Galatians 1:4-5 KJV
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Compare: Matthew 12:32; Mark 10:30; Luke 18:30; Luke 20:35; Ephesians 1:21
Luke 18:29-30
“Truly I tell you,” Jesus said to them, “no one who has left home or wife or brothers or sisters or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God 30 will fail to receive many times as much in this age, and in the age to come eternal life.”
Aionios, the Greek word mistranslated as "eternal" and "everlasting" in the Bible (eternal hell?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kfKQJfT0C8&t=770s

Wrong! Totally wrong. You just copy stuff from a website without bothering to check if it is correct. Except for Matt 25:46 where aionios is correctly translated "eternal" The Greek word "aionios" does NOT occur in any of the listed vss. above. The correct word for each vs. Matt 13:22, "aion," Rom 12:2, "aion." 1 Cor 2:8, "aion.", Eph 2:2, "kosmos," Gal 1:4-5 "aion." Luk 18:29-30 "aion."
Even if "aionios" did occur in these vss. you would still be wrong. Six occurrences alone do NOT determine the meaning.
“αιωνιος/aionios” occurs 72x in the N.T.
“aionios” is translated world only 3 times in the N.T. [1%]
“aionios” is correctly translated “eternal” 42 times in the N.T.[52%]
“aionios” is correctly translated “everlasting” 25 times in the N.T.[34.7%]
Jesus used “aionios” twenty eight [28] times, [38.8% of total]
Jesus never used “aionios” to refer something common, ordinary/mundane which was not/could not be “eternal.”
The following 5 vss. clearly show that "aionios" does in fact mean 'eternal" although it may be used figuratively in a few vss.

John 10:28
(28) I give them eternal [aionios] life, and they shall never [aion] perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.​

In this verse Jesus parallels “aionios” and “aion” with “[not] snatch them out of my hand”, and “never perish.” If “aion/aionios” means “age(s), a finite age,” that is not the opposite of “[not] snatch them out of my hand’/never perish” “Aionios life” by definition here means “eternal life.”

John 3:15
(15) That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal [aionion] life.
John 3:16
(16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting [aionion] life. ​

In these two verses Jesus parallels “aionion” with “should not perish,” twice. Believers could eventually perish in a finite age, by definition “aionion life” here means eternal or everlasting life.
.....Paul used the word “aionios” eighteen [18] times. It is correctly translated “eternal/everlasting” 16 times and world only 2 times. In the following 12 verses Paul defines/describes “aionios” as eternal.

Romans 1:20
(20) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal [aidios] power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Romans 16:26
(26) But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting [aionios] God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:​

In Rom 1:20, above, Paul refers to God’s power and Godhead as “aidios.” Scholars unanimously agree “aidios” unquestionably means eternal, everlasting, unending etc. In Rom 16:26, Paul, the same writer, in the same writing, refers to God as “aionios.” Paul has used “aionios” synonymous with “aidios.” In this verse, by definition, “aionios” means eternal, everlasting etc.

 

[Der Alte]

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These three references seem to contradict each other. So, which is it?
- the furnace of fire?
- blackest darkness? (wandering stars in Jude 4:13) ???
- eternal fire?
- outer darkness?
- lake of fire? (doesn't sound dark)
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If YHWH can make a bush burn without being consumed and protect 3 Hebrew slaves from being harmed in a furnace heated to 7 times usual which killed the soldiers outside the furnace, I'm sure He can make all the above happen when and where He wanted it to. Can't your God do that?