My Genesis 1 Bottleneck Event Challenge

Do you see a bottleneck event in Genesis 1?


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From the root word for "firmament" in Hebrew.

רָקַע râqaʻ, raw-kah'; a primitive root; to pound the earth (as a sign of passion); by analogy to expand (by hammering); by implication, to overlay (with thin sheets of metal):—beat, make broad, spread abroad (forth, over, out, into plates), stamp, stretch.

Now you should know what God means when He tell us to:

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of trut

I know he didn't mean to make stuff up, which is your forte, and which you continue to do here. Precisely how many Old Testament commentaries have you read? No self respecting biblical scholar would let his imagination run wild in the way you do.
 
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Does that come from a scientific source, or from the infinite wisdom of the Urantia book?
Both science and the Urantia revelation.

Microcephalin, a gene regulating brain size, continues to evolve adaptively in humans.
Evans PD, et al. Science. 2005.
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The gene Microcephalin (MCPH1) regulates brain size and has evolved under strong positive selection in the human evolutionary lineage. We show that one genetic variant of Microcephalin in modern humans, which arose approximately 37,000 years ago, increased in frequency too rapidly to be compatible with neutral drift. This indicates that it has spread under strong positive selection, although the exact nature of the selection is unknown. The finding that an important brain gene has continued to evolve adaptively in anatomically modern humans suggests the ongoing evolutionary plasticity of the human brain. It also makes Microcephalin an attractive candidate locus for studying the genetics of human variation in brain-related phenotypes.

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ADAM AND EVE

"ADAM AND EVE arrived on Urantia, from the year A.D. 1934, 37,848 years ago. It was in midseason when the Garden was in the height of bloom that they arrived. At high noon and unannounced, the two seraphic transports, accompanied by the Jerusem personnel intrusted with the transportation of the biologic uplifters to Urantia, settled slowly to the surface of the revolving planet in the vicinity of the temple of the Universal Father. All the work of rematerializing the bodies of Adam and Eve was carried on within the precincts of this newly created shrine. And from the time of their arrival ten days passed before they were re-created in dual human form for presentation as the world's new rulers. They regained consciousness simultaneously. The Material Sons and Daughters always serve together. It is the essence of their service at all times and in all places never to be separated. They are designed to work in pairs; seldom do they function alone."
 
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There was no bottleneck event, however there was a genetic introduction event. The superior Adamic DNA was introduced into the existing human stocks roughly 40,000 years ago.

According to the evidence of the first Human farming, city building and every other trait of modern Humans, it happened 11k years ago in the valleys just southwest of Lake Van, Turkey. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Noah left the mile high Lake and descended into the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia, in order to grow himself some grapes and get drunk and pass out in his tent. ALL of these are sure fire traits of modern Human men and their relationship with Alcohol. Gen 9:21 Amen?
 
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According to the evidence of the first Human farming, city building and every other trait of modern Humans, it happened 11k years ago in the valleys just southwest of Lake Van, Turkey. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Noah left the mile high Lake and descended into the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia, in order to grow himself some grapes and get drunk and pass out in his tent. ALL of these are sure fire traits of modern Human men and their relationship with Alcohol. Gen 9:21 Amen?
According to real and overwealming evidence your theory is not accurate.
 
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According to real and overwealming evidence your theory is not accurate.

Here's the evidence of the first Human farming on planet Earth Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE according to History. What you would have us believe is that modern Humans starved for some 26k years since they didn't have enough sense to grow themselves something to eat. Noah was the FIRST Human farmer on planet Earth. Gen 9:20 He was extremely THIRSTY.
 
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I know he didn't mean to make stuff up, which is your forte, and which you continue to do here. Precisely how many Old Testament commentaries have you read? No self respecting biblical scholar would let his imagination run wild in the way you do.

It's the root Hebrew meaning for firmament in Strong's online Concordance which a part of Blue Letter Bible. Bible Search and Study Tools - Blue Letter Bible Strong's is the most respected study which tells us the meanings of every Hebrew and Greek word in the King James version of the Bible. It's the way we STUDY to shew ourselves approved unto God. Amen?
 
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Here's the evidence of the first Human farming on planet Earth Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE according to History. What you would have us believe is that modern Humans starved for some 26k years since they didn't have enough sense to grow themselves something to eat. Noah was the FIRST Human farmer on planet Earth. Gen 9:20 He was extremely THIRSTY.

A map is not evidence. A map like that is just a map.

And I have provided links that demonstrated that human farming began long before the date that you sited. You appear to have a rather poor memory:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/07/150722144709.htm

And agriculture was even practiced in the New World long before the date that you give:

New World crops - Wikipedia
 
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It's the root Hebrew meaning for firmament in Strong's online Concordance which a part of Blue Letter Bible. Bible Search and Study Tools - Blue Letter Bible Strong's is the most respected study which tells us the meanings of every Hebrew and Greek word in the King James version of the Bible. It's the way we STUDY to shew ourselves approved unto God. Amen?

Looking up the etymology of Greek and Hebrew words does not a theologian or biblical scholar make.
 
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A map is not evidence. A map like that is just a map.

A map is evidence IF you have the ability to understand it. What the Map shows is that the FIRST Human farming on this Earth took place in Northern Mesopotamia between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. This is the "Cradle of Civilization" on this Earth. Some even CLAIM that there was Human farming much earlier, but cannot explain WHY this area, which is in the valleys of the mile high Lake Van is so important. It's because this understanding AGREES in every way with every Truth which mankind has discovered. Everything else is a half-truth, a changeable truth, which is the best truth we can understand today a part truth, like the ToE.

***And I have provided links that demonstrated that human farming began long before the date that you sited. You appear to have a rather poor memory:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/07/150722144709.htm

And agriculture was even practiced in the New World long before the date that you give:

New World crops - Wikipedia

You have all sorts of wild theories BUT none of them tell us HOW or WHEN prehistoric people became Humans (descendants of Adam). God did and told us all about it more than 3k years ago. I cannot help it if today's "advanced" Science is so ignorant of what He told us so long ago. When you are able to distinguish between Humans (descendants of Adam) and prehistoric people (descendants of the common ancestor of Apes) please return and inform the rest of us. Amen?
 
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Looking up the etymology of Greek and Hebrew words does not a theologian or biblical scholar make.

Amen. Unless one is led by the Holy Spirit and informed of what He wrote more than 3k years ago, and with the "increased knowledge" of the last days of this Earth Dan 12:4 before Jesus returns at Armageddon, one CANNOT understand Genesis. Studying the ancient meanings for the words is helpful only to the Christians of the last days. God hid His Truth in the future discoveries of the last days. Science discovered in 2016 what God told us in Gen 1:21. It's proof of God.
 
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Amen. Unless one is led by the Holy Spirit

Everybody who wants to be his own authority claims to be led by the Holy Spirit, not to mention every wacko cult there has ever been.
 
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A map is evidence IF you have the ability to understand it. What the Map shows is that the FIRST Human farming on this Earth took place in Northern Mesopotamia between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. This is the "Cradle of Civilization" on this Earth. Some even CLAIM that there was Human farming much earlier, but cannot explain WHY this area, which is in the valleys of the mile high Lake Van is so important. It's because this understanding AGREES in every way with every Truth which mankind has discovered. Everything else is a half-truth, a changeable truth, which is the best truth we can understand today a part truth, like the ToE.

***And I have provided links that demonstrated that human farming began long before the date that you sited. You appear to have a rather poor memory:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/07/150722144709.htm

And agriculture was even practiced in the New World long before the date that you give:

New World crops - Wikipedia

You have all sorts of wild theories BUT none of them tell us HOW or WHEN prehistoric people became Humans (descendants of Adam). God did and told us all about it more than 3k years ago. I cannot help it if today's "advanced" Science is so ignorant of what He told us so long ago. When you are able to distinguish between Humans (descendants of Adam) and prehistoric people (descendants of the common ancestor of Apes) please return and inform the rest of us. Amen?


LOL!! Oh my. Another failure by Aman.


I am sorry, but your map is just a map. It says nothing about when agriculture first began. But the links that I provided did.

You can't learn from your mistakes. Which means that you will never learn.
 
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Everybody who wants to be his own authority claims to be led by the Holy Spirit, not to mention every wacko cult there has ever been.

One must be led by the Holy Spirit, the Author or Scripture, or one remains in the dark. In addition to that one must shows that God's Truth AGREES in every way with science and history. That eliminates the wackos.
 
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One must be led by the Holy Spirit, the Author or Scripture, or one remains in the dark. In addition to that one must shows that God's Truth AGREES in every way with science and history. That eliminates the wackos.
Oh my!! There goes another irony meter
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I am sorry, but your map is just a map. It says nothing about when agriculture first began. But the links that I provided did.

It's the Fertile Crescent where Human agriculture began. Some don't have the ability to comprehend. I suggest they find a 4th grader to read and explain it to them. Then they can overwhelm the 9 year old with their great knowledge of what evidence really is. Who knows if the kid will believe them or not?
 
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It's the Fertile Crescent where Human agriculture began. Some don't have the ability to comprehend. I suggest they find a 4th grader to read and explain it to them. Then they can overwhelm the 9 year old with their great knowledge of what evidence really is. Who knows if the kid will believe them or not?


It may be where it started, but your dates are extremely wrong.

And I don't think that even a fourth grader could help you.

Aman, you really need to learn the basics of science. You should be the last person attempting to put someone else down. Your claims are always easily refutable. That should tell you something.
 
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