Okay, IF you can tell us HOW God's superior intelligence got inside Apes, as Evols force teach our little children in the Public Schools. Waiting....
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Wrong again. Let's drop the Bible. Let's just go over the science and why we know that we are evolved beings. Please, no false claims about others. That is not a very Christian activity.
Okay, IF you can tell us HOW God's superior intelligence got inside Apes, as Evols force teach our little children in the Public Schools. Waiting....
There are many things that can go wrong with human bodies. The more of them you have, the shorter you'll live. There is no reason at all to think the overall level of bad stuff in our DNA has increased over time.
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I voted no because we would find a bottleneck event in Gen. 6-9, not in Gen. 1.
Here's the verse:
Gen 6:9
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
Where's the bottleneck? Noah was married and so were his 3 sons. After the flood, Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans to marry, so they married and produced children with the some ONE Million prehistoric people alive when the Ark arrived. IOW, your notion that Gen 6:9 speaks of a bottleneck is REFUTED Scripturally. Try again?
The Bible says that in the context of saying lots of other things that didn't happen. That's a very good reason to think it didn't happen.the Bible says human life was shortened significantly at much earlier time. That is a very good reason to think about it.
..... That and ALL of the animals perished (i.e. reason for the Ark, no??), so why was an Ark needed if all the other millions survived had their animal food sources too?Ah. So everybody except Noah and his family were killed in the flood, only they weren't, because Noah's grandsons would have been a bit short of wives otherwise.
Yep. Makes perfect sense to me.
Ah. So everybody except Noah and his family were killed in the flood, only they weren't, because Noah's grandsons would have been a bit short of wives otherwise.
Yep. Makes perfect sense to me.
..... That and ALL of the animals perished (i.e. reason for the Ark, no??), so why was an Ark needed if all the other millions survived had their animal food sources too?
Noah's grandsons were inside their mamas and daddys in the Ark. When they grew up, there were NO other Humans (descendants of Adam) to marry. Like Cain, on Adam's Earth, they married and produced descendants with the sons of God (prehistoric people who evolved from water) and today, there are some 7.4 Billion of us. Our God is an awesome God. God Bless you
Oh sure. Sea creatures managed to somehow transform themselves into fully functioning human beings within the space of a few decades. Creationists can swallow that sort of nonsense when it suits them, and yet not the evolution which really happened.
No, bottleneck events are when a population of organisms suddenly has a large portion of them die, causing a measurable reduction in variety. There are various potential causes of such bottlenecks, one that comes to mind to me is how disease created one in humans during the Bubonic plague.Do you see a bottleneck event in Genesis 1?
No. Noah's children were not sea creature but direct descendants of Adam, the common ancestor of ALL Humans. Adam, the first Human, was unique in that he was made with an intelligence like God's, Gen 3:22 since his kind is destined to rule the world after Jesus returns. Gen 1:28
The Lie of evolution is caused by godless men trying to eliminate God from His Own Creation. They made a terrible mistake by forgetting about the flood and in the last days must answer for their evil forced teaching of their incomplete ToE. A special more terrible fate awaits those who offend little ones who believe in Jesus. Mar 9:42
The Bible says that in the context of saying lots of other things that didn't happen. That's a very good reason to think it didn't happen.
Your opinion is noted.
A few decades? I think you misunderstand Aman777. He's the only creationist I know that views the universe as older than modern scientific conclusions (as far as I can remember, he believes it to be 21 billion years old). From my understanding, he views that humans were created and placed in a specific, small protective area separate from the planet Earth itself. Like how my bearded dragons are in tanks that keep them warm and unable to move around the rest of the house. As far as I can tell, the "prehistoric peoples" Aman talks about, from his perspective, have a separate origin from "true humans" and never experienced Noah's flood at all. Rather, they evolved normally or, perhaps, were guided into evolving as close to human as the natural process can get, but they would never reach "true human" intelligence via this process. The "protective tank" that the "true humans" lived in was dissolved as it was dunked into a lake, causing the inhabitants to experience the flood. This is also why this was the first time rain was experienced in this tank, as holes began to form as it dissolved the barriers, referred to as "firmament" and the water flooded into the submerged "tank". Once this "tank" fully dissolved and the ark landed, Noah and his family found no other humans left. As a result, when it came time for Noah's grandsons to want to start families, they had to settle for Neanderthals and other "prehistoric peoples" that were not as smart as them, but were physically compatible for breeding. It is through this hybridization that modern humans get their intelligence, as well as genetic ties to organisms such as chimpanzees. Through independent genetic lines.Oh sure. Sea creatures managed to somehow transform themselves into fully functioning human beings within the space of a few decades. Creationists can swallow that sort of nonsense when it suits them, and yet not the evolution which really happened.
A few decades? I think you misunderstand Aman777. He's the only creationist I know that views the universe as older than modern scientific conclusions (as far as I can remember, he believes it to be 21 billion years old). From my understanding, he views that humans were created and placed in a specific, small protective area separate from the planet Earth itself. Like how my bearded dragons are in tanks that keep them warm and unable to move around the rest of the house. As far as I can tell, the "prehistoric peoples" Aman talks about, from his perspective, have a separate origin from "true humans" and never experienced Noah's flood at all. Rather, they evolved normally or, perhaps, were guided into evolving as close to human as the natural process can get, but they would never reach "true human" intelligence via this process. The "protective tank" that the "true humans" lived in was dissolved as it was dunked into a lake, causing the inhabitants to experience the flood. This is also why this was the first time rain was experienced in this tank, as holes began to form as it dissolved the barriers, referred to as "firmament" and the water flooded into the submerged "tank". Once this "tank" fully dissolved and the ark landed, Noah and his family found no other humans left. As a result, when it came time for Noah's grandsons to want to start families, they had to settle for Neanderthals and other "prehistoric peoples" that were not as smart as them, but were physically compatible for breeding. It is through this hybridization that modern humans get their intelligence, as well as genetic ties to organisms such as chimpanzees. Through independent genetic lines.
I think this summarizes Aman777's views, though he is free to correct me if I got parts incorrect.
Adam and Eve lived longer due to consuming the fruit of life. There is no reason to conclude that this kept them free of mutation. Mutation alone is not what causes people to age. In fact, your DNA could experience absolutely no mutations, and there would still be a limit on how many times your DNA could be replicated. This is because every time your DNA replicates the lagging strand, thanks to an imperfect process, the copy is shorter than the original strand by a bit. At the very ends of DNA are telomeres, repeating bits of nonsense that have no function other than to be disposable and put off how long it takes for the DNA copies to get so much shorter that function is impaired.the Bible says human life was shortened significantly at much earlier time. That is a very good reason to think about it.
Out of curiosity, do you think that the "protective tank" Noah lived in prior to the flood orbited the planet like the moon, or just floated suspended over a specific area?Thanks Sarah. Like the Image on my posts, which was produced by an Atheist, you too have a better understanding of my views than anyone else here. God Bless you
So, alternate proposal for creationists: The fruit from the tree of life helped repair DNA from its own replication process or rendered cell replication unnecessary, and gaining the knowledge from the forbidden fruit did make Adam and Eve smarter, at the cost of a higher metabolism.
Just an idea.
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