My flood water challenge

[AV1611VET]

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I take it you think the Flood was just a local one?

 

[AV1611VET]

Simply put, there was no globe-spanning flood.

Yes, there was.

 

[fwGod]

I take it you think the Flood was just a local one?

You take that wrong. I believe that it's global, for who can keep back the raging waters of such deluge that pushes the dirt and rocks into mountains and carves out valleys where none had been before? And whose waters are so turbulent that even water creatures die from the chaotic event. Which makes the ark the only safe place to be for man and beast.

 

[AV1611VET]

You take that wrong. I believe that it's global, for who can keep back the raging waters of such deluge that pushes the dirt and rocks into mountains and carves out valleys where none had been before? And whose waters are so turbulent that even water creatures die from the chaotic event. Which makes the ark the only safe place to be for man and beast.

And how, if I may ask, did all those animals fit on the Ark, along with a year's supply of food for each and every one?

 

[Kylie]

Is this a trick question? a cube is three dimensional.

So a cube does not exist in the four spatial dimensions you mentioned?

 

[AV1611VET]

So a cube does not exist in the four spatial dimensions you mentioned?

Have a good day.

 

[SelfSim]

And how, if I may ask, did all those animals fit on the Ark, along with a year's supply of food for each and every one?

Its a real pity your answers distort any given topic so much away from credible, rational, scientific discussions .. because I'd love to get into a conversation aimed at answering that question.
Alas though, it involves a deep understanding of Information Theory .. (and definitely not Dr Who's Tardis).

Hint (for those inclined):
One of the deepest and most profound laws of Physics says that: 'The maximum information that can be stuffed into a region of space is equal to the area of that region .. not the volume'.

 

[coffee4u]

The Traditional Christian (and Jewish) interpretation is that Psalm 104 has to do with the creation, not the flood--so I'm ignoring that part.

Because a global flood would do no damage, makes sense -not.

 

[coffee4u]

Simply put, there was no globe-spanning flood.

So you are calling God a lier than?
Genesis 9
4 Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, 15 I will remember my covenant between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. 16 Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth.”

If the flood was local than that is a lie.

 

[Speedwell]

Because a global flood would do no damage, makes sense -not.

You can interpret the passage as a reference to the flood if you want. I'm just telling you why I do not.

 

[coffee4u]

You can interpret the passage as a reference to the flood if you want. I'm just telling you why I do not.

Since you are not a Christian it doesn't really matter.

But even if it was referring to creation-which you don't believe in anyway, a global flood with volcanic action would raise landmass. Both mountains as well as islands like Hawaii.

 

[SelfSim]

Genesis 9
4 Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, 15 I will remember my covenant between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. 16 Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth.”
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.. If the flood was local than that is a lie.

Umm .. why is the 'I' and 'me' pronouns used in the beginning part of that clause and then reverts to almost a third person reference ie: 'God'?
I'm confused about who is doing the talking and who is doing the remembering in that clause

 

[AV1611VET]

Its a real pity your answers distort any given topic so much away from credible, rational, scientific discussions .. because I'd love to get into a conversation aimed at answering that question.

Oh, so you need a whole conversation to answer a simple question?

You can''t answer it in ten words or less?

You have to call on Chatty Cathy to start spewing science?

I'll do you a favor and withdraw the question, how's that?

 

[SelfSim]

Oh, so you need a whole conversation to answer a simple question?

You can''t answer it in ten words or less?

I did (albeit in 25 words) ... in my 'Hint'.
Anyway, who says its a simple question?

You have to call on Chatty Cathy to start spewing science?

I don't have a clue who that is .. but its sounds really nasty!

I'll do you a favor and withdraw the question, how's that?

You could also consider going further than just that, I suppose(?)

 

[Speedwell]

Since you are not a Christian it doesn't really matter.

You're right, I'm not a Christian--I'm an Anglican, what conservative Evangelicals like you in this country call a "Bible-hating, Christ denying commie." But the traditional understanding of the reference is widespread, and older than Christianity itself.

But even if it was referring to creation-which you don't believe in anyway, a global flood with volcanic action would raise landmass. Both mountains as well as islands like Hawaii.

I wouldn't use the Hawaiian Islands as an example if were you--they have proven an intractable problem for creationists.

 

[ViaCrucis]

So you are calling God a lier than?

Only if you believe Jesus was a liar for telling parables. That's not a position I would take, as I think that's rather blasphemous.

Genesis 9
4 Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, 15 I will remember my covenant between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. 16 Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth.”

If the flood was local than that is a lie.

When Jesus said "This is My body" did He lie?

This is an opportunity for you to either retract your slanderous accusation against Christians who don't happen to interpret this passage the way you do, or for you to double down and maintain a hypocritical double standard.

Your choice. Do you grow as a person, or not?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Quartermaine]

Since you are not a Christian it doesn't really matter.

But even if it was referring to creation-which you don't believe in anyway, a global flood with volcanic action would raise landmass. Both mountains as well as islands like Hawaii.

are you aware that all the islands of Hawaii came from a single volcano?

 

[AV1611VET]

are you aware that all the islands of Hawaii came from a single volcano?

Yes.

 

[Kylie]

Have a good day.

Whenever someone asks you a difficult question you refuse to answer and instead run and hide from it - AND you make posts like this making it plain for all to see that you are running and hiding.

It's almost like you don't even want people to take you seriously.

 

[coffee4u]

Umm .. why is the 'I' and 'me' pronouns used in the beginning part of that clause and then reverts to almost a third person reference ie: 'God'?
I'm confused about who is doing the talking and who is doing the remembering in that clause

God is three in one, if you know the doctrine of the Trinity, so the swapping would be from that.