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My flood water challenge

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by driewerf, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:03 AM.

  1. driewerf

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    According to (1) and (2), all the seas and oceans combined contain 1.36 billion km³ of water.
    Taking the Mount Everest at 8 kilometers, and the Earth radius at 6371 km. So to cover the Earth with flood waters you need to fill a shell of water with the thickness of the Mount Everest.
    The volume of the shell, is given by:
    V= 4/3 * Pi* (R³-r³)


    Filling in the numbers give a required volume of water of 4 083 570 535 km³. That's more than 4 billion km³ that you need to cover the earth, to the height of Mount Everest.
    Explain where 4 billion km³ came from and where it went.
    Explain why we didn't find it (yet).

    (1) How much water is in the ocean?
    (2) Ocean's Depth and Volume Revealed | Live Science
     
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  2. AV1611VET

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    Don't you mean 2.64 billion, since you said the earth already has 1.36 billion?
     
  3. driewerf

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    No, that's the water that is already filling the oceans. You need 4 billion km³ extra to fill a shell with the radius of the earth and the thickness of Mount Everest (8 km)
     
  4. AV1611VET

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    I'm not so sure Mt Everest existed at the time.

    But for the sake of arguing, let's say it did.

    However much water was needed, God sent it to Earth, along with making the earth chalk up water from inside her.

    Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

    Note here ...

    Revelation 4:1a After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven:

    And what did John see?

    Revelation 4:6a And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal:

    Windows of Heaven open up, and water rains down from a huge sea in Heaven proper, as well as from outer space, as well as coming up from the bowels of the earth.
     
  5. Quartermaine

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    creationists have all sorts of whacky explanations about the flood. none of them make much sense. And all the explanations defy even basic science. All that water was stored underground...somehow and then came to the surface....somehow. Or they will go on about the firmament as if that makes any more sense. As to the problem of where the water went...I don't think they even try.
     
  6. driewerf

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    Around the earth there is outer space...emptiness. Nothing to hang windows on, let alone store water or hang pipes to transport it.


    Windows are in walls. Are there walls in outer space?
     
  7. AV1611VET

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    You're thinking only three dimensional.

    Paul speaks of four dimensions of space.

    Ephesians 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

    In addition ... and correct me if I'm wrong ... science speaks of some 11 dimensions, does it not?
     
  8. AV1611VET

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    QV please:
     
  9. Running2win

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    It would of had to be under great pressure inside the earth, enough pressure to shoot up and into the canopy that was above the earth. Here is a good website.

    God said it happened, there is evidence of a global flood, of mass extinctions that were preserved by being covered quickly, and it explains where all the dinos went, and flood stories of ancient peoples. We don't have to know all the answers, just what theory makes more sense with the evidence. Here is so good reading.

    The Institute for Creation Research

    https://christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c010.html
    https://christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-floodwater.html
     
  10. OldWiseGuy

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    The flood story is posed as a literal event involving the material earth, as moved by God to accomplish his purpose. He didn't need to create 'extra water' to drown everything "in whose nostrils was the breath of life". It wasn't necessary to cover Mt. Everest as there was no one up there to drown. And if any did climb above the "high hills" to escape the flood water they would quickly succumb to starvation or exposure.
     
  11. Speedwell

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    What? No Yeti?
     
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  13. driewerf

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    This of course has nothing to do with my objection that windows are holes in walls, either to see yhtough or to let light is.
    Around the earth there is outer space...emptiness. Nothing to hang windows on, let alone store water or hang pipes to transport it.

    Windows are in walls. Are there walls in outer space?
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  14. AV1611VET

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    I object to that definition as well.

    Try this one, from Word Hippo:
     
  15. Quartermaine

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    Mount Everest has been around for about 65 million years
     
  16. Quartermaine

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    you do realize that depth and height are measurements along the same dimension
     
  17. AV1611VET

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    In three-dimensional thinking, yes.
     
  18. AV1611VET

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    And if you met Adam on the day he was created, how old would you think he was?
     
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  20. Quartermaine

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    Water inside the earth under pressure? that is an understatement. If the voulume of wather sufficent to cause the biblical flood were under the earth's crust it would be under tremendous pressure, enough pressure to rib the crust of the earth off.

    and the Canopy? A massive layer of ice and/or water vapor high above the atmosphere? it would have to be miles thick. so think that sunlight couldn't get through and so thing that the air pressure at the surface woudl be tens of thousands of pounds per square inch. and the trapped heat from this canopy would be well past the temperature needed to melt lead.


    Evidence of a global flood? no

    There have been at least six mass extinctions.

    Flood myths are by no means universal.

    evidence? no
     
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