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My dad has problems again

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I am praying for you and your dad. I remember my daddy's last days in the hospital when he had the myeloproliferative disorder (Blood cancer) he did a swallow test and he did not do well, it was because he was so weak, maybe that is the way your dad can't swallow well. He could still talk however.
 
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Your dad is not epileptic is he? It just runs in the family?
I don't know the answer to the first question. I just wonder if the fact that a couple of his family members had it, could be a factor. Only wondering. I'm grasping at straws.
 
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I don't know the answer to the first question. I just wonder if the fact that a couple of his family members had it, could be a factor. Only wondering. I'm grasping at straws.
I understand. :praying:
 
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You were saying that you can not see your dad or go to the hospital because of phone calls, well, maybe you could use your cell phone while visiting in the hospital, I used mine a lot when daddy was in the hospital.
 
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You were saying that you can not see your dad or go to the hospital because of phone calls, well, maybe you could use your cell phone while visiting in the hospital, I used mine a lot when daddy was in the hospital.
You know, I was thinking that too. Let me see. I tend not to get to the hospital until 2 or something. I'm worried that's not enough time to call lawyers. Yes I can try before I go, but I can't sleep at night very well because I'm so worried about this, and that bleeds into the morning. You can see how much this is driving me crazy.
 
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Ok this is kind of getting irksome. :(

I think I'm going to be pressured to bring him back home and this won't work for me. I can't do it. My brother and dad's housecleaner are giving off that vibe.
 
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Ok this is kind of getting irksome. :(

I think I'm going to be pressured to bring him back home and this won't work for me. I can't do it. My brother and dad's housecleaner are giving off that vibe.
Are they hinting? Something your brother said possibly?
 
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Are they hinting? Something your brother said possibly?
Yeah. My dad's housecleaner mentioned a certain kind of rolling wheelchair that my dad can use when he comes home such that he can stand in it and not fall and hurt himself and that it costs $1200. My brother is pushing the notion of this electric-shock treatment to the throat that the hospital staff reiterated is not done in the hospital but is done on an outpatient basis, and my brother knows about the outpatient part and is still pushing it. First of all, I'm not saying that my brother's heart is in the wrong place, but he is acting like once dad is in rehab then we're all fine. He's so pushy about this. He doesn't seem to like any of the answers that I relay from the palliative care team, so that latter wants to call my brother and set the record straight with him. They see how stressed I am and do not want me to be burdened with being the middleperson.
 
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I think that my dad being home was actually a factor why his last fall might be his final fall and so do today's ladies who I talked with. His posture was getting so, so terrible and he was falling so often and since we have wood floors, my fears get doubly compounded.
 
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Yeah. My dad's housecleaner mentioned a certain kind of rolling wheelchair that my dad can use when he comes home such that he can stand in it and not fall and hurt himself and that it costs $1200. My brother is pushing the notion of this electric-shock treatment to the throat that the hospital staff reiterated is not done in the hospital but is done on an outpatient basis, and my brother knows about the outpatient part and is still pushing it. First of all, I'm not saying that my brother's heart is in the wrong place, but he is acting like once dad is in rehab then we're all fine. He's so pushy about this. He doesn't seem to like any of the answers that I relay from the palliative care team, so that latter wants to call my brother and set the record straight with him. They see how stressed I am and do not want me to be burdened with being the middleperson.
Yep. The palliative care team will step up for the caretaker. I find it funny your brother does nothing but bark orders but does none of the heavy lifting. I know the palliative care team stood up for my mother when my stepdad was so sick. Like your brother, his kids barked orders and questioned the care but never did anything themselves.
 
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I think that my dad being home was actually a factor why his last fall might be his final fall and so do today's ladies who I talked with. His posture was getting so, so terrible and he was falling so often and since we have wood floors, my fears get doubly compounded.
I really do not think they will recommend he returns home to be honest. I would think you’d need a lot of nursing care if he did but that still leaves you with a lot of time on your own to care for him.
 
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Yep. The palliative care team will step up for the caretaker. I find it funny your brother does nothing but bark orders but does none of the heavy lifting. I know the palliative care team stood up for my mother when my stepdad was so sick. Like your brother, his kids barked orders and questioned the care but never did anything themselves.
Sounds familiar. Look, I know that satan is the god of this world and that by virtue of that, I don't blindly trust people and assume that, as fallen creatures, humans are bad before they're good and hence I assume people may be liars instead of trustworthy. My dad doesn't seem to be that un-bright though; he still knows my name and the city we're in and asks me how I'm doing and if I'm OK and stuff (he tried to talk to me tonight for the first time and I'm kind of haunted by the sound of his voice, I'm feeling too hurt by it), so I hope that the doctors aren't playing me that he goes in and out of delirium. To be honest, I think he kind of goes in and out of it too, but he's not stupid either. I think he knows what he's thinking much of the time but at the same time, how correct am I supposed to assume the staff is? Sigh.
 
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Sounds familiar. Look, I know that satan is the god of this world and that by virtue of that, I don't blindly trust people and assume that, as fallen creatures, humans are bad before they're good and hence I assume people may be liars instead of trustworthy. My dad doesn't seem to be that un-bright though; he still knows my name and the city we're in and asks me how I'm doing and if I'm OK and stuff (he tried to talk to me tonight for the first time and I'm kind of haunted by the sound of his voice, I'm feeling too hurt by it), so I hope that the doctors aren't playing me that he goes in and out of delirium. To be honest, I think he kind of goes in and out of it too, but he's not stupid either. I think he knows what he's thinking much of the time but at the same time, how correct am I supposed to assume the staff is? Sigh.
Staff and doctors have no vested interest in playing the family of their patients. Believe me. People do go in and out of delirium when they are injured, elderly, etc. I’ve seen it myself. I can assure you they are not playing mind games with you. There is no point in it.
 
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Ok this is kind of getting irksome. :(

I think I'm going to be pressured to bring him back home and this won't work for me. I can't do it. My brother and dad's housecleaner are giving off that vibe.
DO NOT GIVE INTO THEM. You know what it will be like, your dad will need 24/7 professional health care, you are not set up for it.
 
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Yeah. My dad's housecleaner mentioned a certain kind of rolling wheelchair that my dad can use when he comes home such that he can stand in it and not fall and hurt himself and that it costs $1200. My brother is pushing the notion of this electric-shock treatment to the throat that the hospital staff reiterated is not done in the hospital but is done on an outpatient basis, and my brother knows about the outpatient part and is still pushing it. First of all, I'm not saying that my brother's heart is in the wrong place, but he is acting like once dad is in rehab then we're all fine. He's so pushy about this. He doesn't seem to like any of the answers that I relay from the palliative care team, so that latter wants to call my brother and set the record straight with him. They see how stressed I am and do not want me to be burdened with being the middleperson.
It is good that those ladies will talk to him, maybe they can talk some sense into him. The house cleaner has no business butting in at all.
 
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I think that my dad being home was actually a factor why his last fall might be his final fall and so do today's ladies who I talked with. His posture was getting so, so terrible and he was falling so often and since we have wood floors, my fears get doubly compounded.
I agree.
 
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Staff and doctors have no vested interest in playing the family of their patients. Believe me. People do go in and out of delirium when they are injured, elderly, etc. I’ve seen it myself. I can assure you they are not playing mind games with you. There is no point in it.
The thing is, I look at my dad's frailty and overall condition and it doesn't seem different (overall) than what they tell me. Even at home, he was kind of delusional at times. I know this, but I wish I had an example. I remember something happening recently in which I was surprised but darn it it slips my mind.
 
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The thing is, I look at my dad's frailty and overall condition and it doesn't seem different (overall) than what they tell me. Even at home, he was kind of delusional at times. I know this, but I wish I had an example. I remember something happening recently in which I was surprised but darn it it slips my mind.
Well it’s normal to not want to believe these sort of things and protect your loved one by giving them every opportunity for a more optimistic prognosis. But these doctors and staff have no reason to play games. They have many patients to take care of and they want to see them do well. But being dishonest with family, etc. is a sure ticket to losing one’s career along with lawsuits. There is no reason to be dishonest that would be of any benefit to anyone. I know your brother is extremely negative and dramatic and you have to deal with that but try not to let it influence you. I know you are heartbroken and hate this situation but I would not listen to anyone but the professionals unless you personally see good reason not to.
 
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Well it’s normal to not want to believe these sort of things and protect your loved one by giving them every opportunity for a more optimistic prognosis. But these doctors and staff have no reason to play games. They have many patients to take care of and they want to see them do well. But being dishonest with family, etc. is a sure ticket to losing one’s career along with lawsuits. There is no reason to be dishonest that would be of any benefit to anyone. I know your brother is extremely negative and dramatic and you have to deal with that but try not to let it influence you. I know you are heartbroken and hate this situation but I would not listen to anyone but the professionals unless you personally see good reason not to.
I'm already petrified that my dad won't even qualify for Medicaid because of a certain couple of asset transfers. I think, however, that enough months from those transfers have passed for the "ineligibility window" to expire, because I've seen the mathematical formula for that window before, and I think I'm good, but still I'm scared.

I wrote that because, without the drama from my brother, I have enough on my plate. And he wants me to "fight with him" on this and I have my own battles. I would be happy, however, if he got that kind of treatment with success, but that is only at a possible rehab, not now. Can you imagine this guy being medical POA? Sheesh. I don't think that the hospital social worker will let that happen, though.

With all due respect, I hope you're right. I try to look through people and see if I think there is honesty underneath their eyes. I can feel that they are trying to tell me the truth and I'm not one to trust people because, as I said, fallen world. If they weren't really trying to help him, he would not have been in the hospital THIS long.
 
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