mRNA vaccines may make unintended proteins, but there’s no evidence of harm

[Hans Blaster]

Seriously Jay. Are you going to interact with any of our responses, or just go to the next conspiracy post?

I guess it is just a string of posts. No interaction. Let's shut this down.

 

[Jay Freeman]

Dr. Cole says, “In my medical opinion, the CV19 vax was all risk and no benefit. . . . The CV19 shots did not help a single person. . . . These shots have to be stopped. We are living under a tyranny of lies.”

CV19 Vax Causes ‘Turbo Cancer’ – Dr. Ryan Cole | Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog

By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com Dr. Ryan Cole is a Board-Certified pathologist. Dr. Cole is an expert in postmortem examination and has treated more than 500,000 patients. He has a prestigious resume, including a five-year stint at the Mayo Clinic. Dr. Cole has been fighting the CV19 narrative...

usawatchdog.com

 

[Jay Freeman]

Yep let's shut the Truth down. lol

 

[Jay Freeman]

You can definitely ignore this book...

"In modRNA: Why It Matters & Other Essays, Attorney Thomas Renz delivers a wake-up call, exposing the potential catastrophes of introducing untested vaccines and gene therapies into the human food supply. With meticulous research this little book unravels the dark side of tinkering with the building blocks of life. Drawing on expert insights, it's a stark reminder that the consequences of unregulated innovation can be catastrophic."

Amazon.com

 

[Nithavela]

Have you read this book? I'm thinking no.... here's another one to ignore.

Amazon.com

"Propaganda" by Edward Bernays

I think I'll just go ahead and ignore you.

 

[Jay Freeman]

CV19 Bioweapon/Vax an Extinction Level Event – Dr. Ana Maria Mihalcea | Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog

By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com (Saturday Night Post) Dr. Ana Maria Mihalcea (aka Dr. Ana) is a Medical Doctor who also holds a PhD in pathology. Dr. Ana has been examining the blood of both the CV19 “vaccinated” and the unvaccinated. She calls the CV19 vax a bioweapon and points out she is...

usawatchdog.com

 

[Jay Freeman]

"According to Dr. McCullough, the FDA admits the shots cause fatal heart damage, Fatal blood clotting, strokes, neurological injuries and other problems. When the evidence mounted on how deadly and debilitating the CV19 injections were, the FDA covered it all up..."

FDA Covered Up CV19 Vax Biological Catastrophe – Dr. Peter McCullough | Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog

 

[Jay Freeman]

Just in time for the holidays...

Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime: How Big Pharma Has Corrupted Healthcare 1st Edition​

Amazon.com

 

[Pommer]

If the Pharmaceutical companies are as powerful as anti-vaccine activists portray them to be, and there's something "they don't want people to know", then how did this "Dr." Todd Elsner come across this information?

So this is is an elite shadowy mega-powerful multinational conglomerate that we should all be afraid of... yet, they were bested by a Chiropractor (not real doctor) who works out of a strip mall in TX?

Dr Todd M. Elsner, D.C.

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I almost blind posted and preemptively said "by Doctor, I'm guessing this isn't a real doctor and is likely a chiropractor or homeopath", turns out I would've been right.

Anyone (like Chiropractors) who subscribe to the teachings of DD Palmer are in no position to claim to have "rigorous standards" with regards to what they'll accept as healthcare. The entire practice was basically fabricated out of an unverifiable story about how Palmer supposedly restored a deaf Janitor's hearing by giving them an "adjustment" to remove the "subluxation".

So this Todd Elsner will accept the Palmer story at face value...yet, they'll scour the ends of the internet to find reasons why "vaccines bad"

We’ve gone from
”Why won’t the government save its citizens’ lives, by stemming the flow of death that periodic pestilences provide?”
To
”The Government wants to use health as a weapon against our freedoms!”, in like fifty years.

 

[Pommer]

Just in time for the holidays...

Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime: How Big Pharma Has Corrupted Healthcare 1st Edition​

Amazon.com

There’s a really good way to convince other folks that you’re not spamming the thread with useless nonsense.

 

[Jay Freeman]

"They knew one of the big medical problems for anyone who took the injections was permanent heart damage. Dr. Eads points out, “What’s been all over the news the last month? Sudden cardiac death, sudden death, died suddenly."

Tsunami of Vax Deaths Coming in Next Two Years – Dr. Betsy Eads | Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog

By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com Dr. Betsy Eads has been fighting to get the truth out about the debilitating and deadly CV19 bioweapon injections form the very beginning. The truth is coming out showing Dr. Eads was right all along even though the Lying Legacy Media (LLM) was suppressing her...

usawatchdog.com

 

[rambot]

This thread is not a healthy example of a "discussion".

 

[NxNW]

friend of mine knew of 6 people who died of covid in the early years, all unvaccinated.

no one i know or he knows, who was vaccinated, died of covid yet.

I know of at least 6 who died from in in 2020, including a father and son.

 

[Pommer]

"They knew one of the big medical problems for anyone who took the injections was permanent heart damage. Dr. Eads points out, “What’s been all over the news the last month? Sudden cardiac death, sudden death, died suddenly."

Tsunami of Vax Deaths Coming in Next Two Years – Dr. Betsy Eads | Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog

By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com Dr. Betsy Eads has been fighting to get the truth out about the debilitating and deadly CV19 bioweapon injections form the very beginning. The truth is coming out showing Dr. Eads was right all along even though the Lying Legacy Media (LLM) was suppressing her...

usawatchdog.com

This isn’t it.

 

[Jay Freeman]

"Dowd says Pfizer simply made up the research that said it’s CV19 vaccine was safe and effective. According to Dowd, it was neither safe or effective. Dowd says, “The data was garbage."

CV19 Vax Deadliest Fraud in History – Edward Dowd | Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog

By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com Wall Street money manager Edward Dowd has made billions of dollars for companies such as Black Rock picking good businesses with good products. He can also spot a fraud, and Dowd says Pfizer simply made up the research that said it’s CV19 vaccine was safe and...

usawatchdog.com

 

[mindlight]

Why do you think that? As viruses mutate over time they get more transmissible but much less fatal...

Maybe because I understand how vaccines work to improve the immune system defenses. In this case, the purging of the weak from the herd has come with the purge of the weak-minded as much as the weak-bodied. Those who are unvaccinated die at five times the rate of those who are vaccinated, even now in this late stage of the infection cycle

United States: COVID-19 weekly death rate by vaccination status

Death rates are calculated as the number of deaths in each group, divided by the total number of people in this group. This is given per 100,000 people.

ourworldindata.org

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Maybe because I understand how vaccines work to improve the immune system defenses. In this case, the purging of the weak from the herd has come with the purge of the weak-minded as much as the weak-bodied. Those who are unvaccinated die at five times the rate of those who are vaccinated, even now in this late stage of the infection cycle

United States: COVID-19 weekly death rate by vaccination status

Death rates are calculated as the number of deaths in each group, divided by the total number of people in this group. This is given per 100,000 people.

ourworldindata.org

The problem is that vaccinated can and do get and transmit the virus both to vaccinated and non-vaccinated people. If you look you will see much less vaccination now (16%) vs 2 years ago (79%) and also much less mortality now. Also studies have shown that paxlovid reduces hospitalizations and death by 86% in unvaccinated people (compare that to vaccine efficacy). CDC data show that about 95% of adults who died from COVID-19 in 2022 were over age 50, and about 8 in 10 were age 65 or older.

"Two and a half years have passed since the outbreak of the coronavirus disease 19 (COVID‐19) pandemic. The CFR from hospitalized COVID‐19 patients was estimated to be 20% or more during the early phase of the pandemic. Over the course of 2.5 years, the mortality rate has drastically decreased. Viral lethality mitigated by mutation because host killing is disadvantage for the virus." J Med Virol 2023

 

[KCfromNC]

The problem is that vaccinated can and do get and transmit the virus both to vaccinated and non-vaccinated people.

Kinda like the problem with drunk driving laws is that doth drunk and sober drivers can be involved in serious motor vehicle accidents.

Except that's not actually a problem because to imply there's a problem would require ignoring that vaccinated people pass the virus along less frequently.

If you look you will see much less vaccination now (16%) vs 2 years ago (79%) and also much less mortality now.

Almost as if vaccines provide lasting protection or something.

Also studies have shown that paxlovid reduces hospitalizations and death by 86% in unvaccinated people (compare that to vaccine efficacy).

We should probably also compare cost and side effects of the two.

CDC data show that about 95% of adults who died from COVID-19 in 2022 were over age 50, and about 8 in 10 were age 65 or older.

Oh, well, if only grandparents are dying who cares?

It's pretty interesting all the excuses posts will come up, almost as if the conclusion that vaccines must be bad for some reason before looking at the actual data about them.

 

[sfs]

Why do you think that? As viruses mutate over time they get more transmissible but much less fatal...

That's not in general true. If there is selection pressure to become less fatal, they'll become less fatal. There's no reason to think SARS-CoV-2 is under that kind of pressure. The Omicron variants are less virulent than Delta was, but Delta was more virulent that the original virus.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

vaccinated people pass the virus along less frequently.

Almost as if vaccines provide lasting protection or something.

We should probably also compare cost and side effects of the two.

Except there is NO scientific evidence of that. The mRNA covid vaccines last between 3-6 months and do NOT protect against getting or transmitting the virus. Well the vaccines are known to produce Myocarditis and Pericarditis in some people.