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From an Islamic Prospect, It was the Message Of all the Prophets to Save People From Death & Grave, and this Occurs by Accepting the Acknowledgement Of the ALLAH, the Only True Creator, Because ALLAH, Has warned those who Don'es Accept this Message, a Hell Fire. Therefore, It was the Message Of those Propets to Save People From Hell FireLittleLambofJesus said:If you don't call on the name of Jesus, according to the Bible, you are not saved. You believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob but yet you do not believe Jesus is the One sent to save the world from the Death and the Grave.
On what Basis is there to Believe that Attonement Of Sins Has Occured ?Deren said:AL, on what basis is there to believe if atonement for sins has not occurred?
The message was sent through God's Son, Jesus the Christ and His is the only message that can SAVE.ALRAJY said:From an Islamic Prospect, It was the Message Of all the Prophets to Save People From Death & Grave, and this Occurs by Accepting the Acknowledgement Of the ALLAH, the Only True Creator, Because ALLAH, Has warned those who Don'es Accept this Message, a Hell Fire. Therefore, It was the Message Of those Propets to Save People From Hell Fire
seed757 said:As for the Islamic position on the issue of atonement, the brothers have shown ample amounts of verses from the Quran as well as sayings from the hadith. It is obvious that the only thing needed for true atonement is to truly repent to your Creator of your wrongs, right the wrongs and offenses against others you have wronged and perform good and rightous deeds with the expressed intent of pleasing Allah. That is the payment. That is the price. Allah does not intend to over-complicate things for His servants in order to please Him.
Anyone who Believes in the Only True GOD, the Creator Of Heavens & Earth is Considered a Son Of GOD, as the Bible IndicatesLittleLambofJesus said:The message was sent through God's Son, Jesus the Christ
What was His Message ?And His is the only message that can SAVE
On what Basis is there to Believe that Attonement Of Sins Has Occured ?Deren said:AL, on what basis is there to believe if atonement for sins has not occurred?
The message was sent through God's Son, Jesus the Christ and His is the only message that can SAVE.
Jesus was the only prophecied to be that Prophet and Savior, all the way back to Genesis. You intentionally say that muhammad was the Last Prophet of the Bible knowing full well that is False. Thus you are leading others away from the Only True One through which eternal life onc can receive. Peace.
(Young) John 5:39 `Ye search the Writings, because ye think in them to have life age-during, and these are they that are testifying concerning Me;
(Young) Mark 9:7 And there came a cloud overshadowing them, and there came a Voice out of the cloud, saying, `This is My Son--the Beloved, hear ye him!!!!;'
(Young) John 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith to him, `Him of whom Moses wrote in the Law, and the prophets, we have found, Jesus the son of Joseph, who [is] from Nazareth;'
ALRAJY said:Anyone who Believes in the Only True GOD, the Creator Of Heavens & Earth is Considered a Son Of GOD, as the Bible Indicates
What was His Message ?
I have Searched the Writtings, But I don't think you would Like to Hear what I think, So what His Message From you Point Of view ?LittleLambofJesus said:(Young) John 5:39 `Ye search the Writings, because ye think in them to have life age-during, and these are they that are testifying concerning Me
The message was sent through God's Son, Jesus the Christ and His is the only message that can SAVE.
Jesus was the only prophecied to be that Prophet and Savior, all the way back to Genesis. You intentionally say that muhammad was the Last Prophet of the Bible knowing full well that is False. Thus you are leading others away from the Only True One through which eternal life onc can receive. Peace.
(Young) John 5:39 `Ye search the Writings, because ye think in them to have life age-during, and these are they that are testifying concerning Me;
(Young) Mark 9:7 And there came a cloud overshadowing them, and there came a Voice out of the cloud, saying, `This is My Son--the Beloved, hear ye him!!!!;'
(Young) John 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith to him, `Him of whom Moses wrote in the Law, and the prophets, we have found, Jesus the son of Joseph, who [is] from Nazareth;'
(Young) John 5:39 `Ye search the Writings, because ye think in them to have life age-during, and these are they that are testifying concerning Me;
(Young) John 14:6 Jesus saith to him, `I am the way, and the truth, and the life, no one doth come unto the Father, if not through me;
No you haven't. You admitted you haven't read most of the OT/OC.ALRAJY said:I have Searched the Writtings, But I don't think you would Like to Hear what I think, So what His Message From you Point Of view ?
ALRAJY said:On what Basis is there to Believe that Attonement Of Sins Has Occured ?
I asked the muslims whether they could understand why Jesus was sent without reading the OT.Deren said:We have an OT record of blood sacrifices for the atonement of sins for starters, which were fulfilled in the NT, in the person of Jesus Christ. Therefore, returning to my question, on what basis is there to believe if atonement for sins has not occurred?
Can the muslims understand why God sent Jesus without reading the OT/OC? Peace.
Yes we can
ALRAJY said:I have Searched the Writtings, But I don't think you would Like to Hear what I think, So what His Message From you Point Of view ?
Well, from what I've seen thus far, it would appear that our Muslim neighbors not only have not read the OT very closely, if at all, and what they've read in the NT has been severely edited, whereby they are unable to connect the two. And part of that editing has left out one of the most important aspects of how God dealt with sin and its atonement. Perhaps with God's help they will eventually see this glaring lacuna, and accept his atonement that is only provided through his Son.LittleLambofJesus said:I asked the muslims whether they could understand why Jesus was sent without reading the OT.
http://www.christianforums.com/t2915036-do-muslims-read-the-ot-oc.html
Same HereDeren said:We have an OT record of blood sacrifices for the atonement of sins for starters, which were fulfilled in the NT, in the person of Jesus Christ. Therefore, returning to my question, on what basis is there to believe if atonement for sins has not occurred?
I don't Mind Sharing Knowledge, So From your Readings, what was His Message ?LittleLambofJesus said:No you haven't. You admitted you haven't read most of the OT/OC.
The message was sent through God's Son, Jesus the Christ and His is the only message that can SAVE.
Jesus was the only prophecied to be that Prophet and Savior, all the way back to Genesis. You intentionally say that muhammad was the Last Prophet of the Bible knowing full well that is False. Thus you are leading others away from the Only True One through which eternal life onc can receive. Peace.
(Young) John 5:39 `Ye search the Writings, because ye think in them to have life age-during, and these are they that are testifying concerning Me;
(Young) Mark 9:7 And there came a cloud overshadowing them, and there came a Voice out of the cloud, saying, `This is My Son--the Beloved, hear ye him!!!!;'
(Young) John 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith to him, `Him of whom Moses wrote in the Law, and the prophets, we have found, Jesus the son of Joseph, who [is] from Nazareth;'
(Young) John 5:39 `Ye search the Writings, because ye think in them to have life age-during, and these are they that are testifying concerning Me;
(Young) John 14:6 Jesus saith to him, `I am the way, and the truth, and the life, no one doth come unto the Father, if not through me;
So your Koran is deceiving others by saying Christ is not the mediator between God and man. Your Koran also lies about Christ being crucified and I guess you get help from the jewish religion on that since they are still awaiting on their own Moshiach.ALRAJY said:Same HereYou Have the OT, and We Have The Holy Qura'an Which Testifies that Without Believing In the Only One Creator Of Heavens & Earth, that: Then, there Is No Atonement Of Sins
- He is Eternally Besought Of all
- He begetteth not nor was begotten.
- There is none Comparable Unto Him.
After All what we Have been through, don't you think that we Should't use Such word ? You asked a Quesiton, and I answered you, No need to Swear at Each Other, Right ?LittleLambofJesus said:So your Koran is deceiving others by saying Christ is not the mediator between God and man. Your Koran also lies about Christ being crucified and I guess you get help from the jewish religion on that since they are still awaiting on their own Moshiach.
Didn't muhammad have relations with jewish women btw?
The message was sent through God's Son, Jesus the Christ and His is the only message that can SAVE.
Jesus was the only prophecied to be that Prophet and Savior, all the way back to Genesis. You intentionally say that muhammad was the Last Prophet of the Bible knowing full well that is False. Thus you are leading others away from the Only True One through which eternal life onc can receive. Peace.
(Young) John 5:39 `Ye search the Writings, because ye think in them to have life age-during, and these are they that are testifying concerning Me;
(Young) Mark 9:7 And there came a cloud overshadowing them, and there came a Voice out of the cloud, saying, `This is My Son--the Beloved, hear ye him!!!!;'
(Young) John 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith to him, `Him of whom Moses wrote in the Law, and the prophets, we have found, Jesus the son of Joseph, who [is] from Nazareth;'
(Young) John 5:39 `Ye search the Writings, because ye think in them to have life age-during, and these are they that are testifying concerning Me;
(Young) John 14:6 Jesus saith to him, `I am the way, and the truth, and the life, no one doth come unto the Father, if not through me;
So your Koran is deceiving others by saying Christ is not the mediator between God and man. Your Koran also lies about Christ being crucified and I guess you get help from the jewish religion on that since they are still awaiting on their own Moshiach.
Didn't muhammad have relations with jewish women btw?
I didn't swear. But is it the Truth?ALRAJY said:After All what we Have been through, don't you think that we Should't use Such word ? You asked a Quesiton, and I answered you, No need to Swear at Each Other, Right ?
I believe It isLittleLambofJesus said:I didn't swear. But is it the Truth?
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