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*rolls eyes*.Kind of like being a second class Mormon who hasn't had his/her endowments, or is divorced and remains single, or has a non-Mormon spouse.
*rolls eyes*.
I spent most of my adult life as a non-endowed lady. I am happily married to an evangelical. And I am in do way a second class person and have never been treated as such-- except by people claiming to be Christians here.
I am very frustrated with the treatment I am receiving on CF right now. Your post #180 seemed to be a deflection rather than acknowledging the caste system which exists on CF. Additionally, your post rang very hollow with me-- I know LDS don't treat people that way.Why do you roll your eyes so much? Do you view that as rude?
Thank you for sharing your experience.
I am very frustrated with the treatment I am receiving on CF right now. Your post #180 seemed to be a deflection rather than acknowledging the caste system which exists on CF. Additionally, your post rang very hollow with me-- I know LDS don't treat people that way.
I am happy to respect your choice of faith and not try to push my faith on anyone else.Do you consider dialogue mistreatment? People at CF want you to have faith in our God; Mormons want us to accept Mormonism. How is either of those beliefs mistreatment?
I'm on several Mormon forums: they all welcome people of all faiths. All people are allowed to post wherever and share their belief (of course with rules of conduct). Several of which actually have non-LDS mods whom are well loved and respected. There's no second class treatment.Some sites allow Mormons to explain their faith but don't want Christians to challenge that faith.
Some sites allow Mormons to explain their faith but don't want Christians to challenge that faith.
I am happy to respect your choice of faith and not try to push my faith on anyone else.
I consider it extremely rude when other people's only objective in conversation with me is to continue to try to proselytize me, especially after I repeatedly tell them "no thank you". Add to that threats of unpleasant afterlife, flaming, being told to "repent" for loving Christ, and complete refusal to see me as anything but a project.
I'm on several Mormon forums: they all welcome people of all faiths. All people are allowed to post wherever and share their belief (of course with rules of conduct). Several of which actually have non-LDS mods whom are well loved and respected. There's no second class treatment.
I myself haven't found any.
Barring a few specific pages created for members of specific individual congregations, all of the "Mormon" message boards and Facebook groups I'm in are open to all believers; the matter at hand is personal conduct, not faith.
In contrast, I've seen places where it's "We're going to talk about Mormons, but actual Mormons aren't allowed to post."
So...
That'll be handled on a case-by-case basis.
People who never got the chance, or forwent marriage in pursuit of a legitimately higher purpose, likely won't have it counted against them.
If, on the other hand, you didn't get married because you were a disreputable person, then that's going to be where the problems lie.
Missing piece of info for you:why can't you meet your eternal spouse in heaven? Why do you have to be married on earth, or in the Temple on earth, to be married in heaven? It doesn't make sense to me.
Here's one thing I don't understand about the Mormon attitute towards marriage, marriage on earth as a prelude to marriage in heaven. For the moment, leave aside the question of whether we are to procreate in heaven. If we are to procreate in heaven, why can't you meet your eternal spouse in heaven? Why do you have to be married on earth, or in the Temple on earth, to be married in heaven? It doesn't make sense to me.
So...if you own or run a site, will you make the rules? Or will you allow any person of any faith to tell you how to run it? Does the owner have any authority?
Here's one thing I don't understand about the Mormon attitute towards marriage, marriage on earth as a prelude to marriage in heaven. For the moment, leave aside the question of whether we are to procreate in heaven. If we are to procreate in heaven, why can't you meet your eternal spouse in heaven? Why do you have to be married on earth, or in the Temple on earth, to be married in heaven? It doesn't make sense to me.
You can't have the actual ceremony performed anywhere except on earth. And you don't go immediately to judgment or the celestial kingdom. You have to be married in the temple. Celestial marriages can't be performed outside the temple. Any marriage performed outside the temple is until death. If a couple so desires and is found worthy they can have their non-temple marriage sealed in the temple. Sealings are also performed by proxy on earth for those who have died without knowing the Mormon religion.
The information in post 192 is incorrect.You say that an LDS marriage has to be in a Mormon Temple to be valid in heaven.
Can the covenant be made anywhere other than a Temple? I was under the impression it had to be made in a Temple as the seal had to be made there, which is one of the major reasons for the Temple, according to LDS.org anyways.It is the covenant that matters, not the place it is physical made.
Today, it is policy these covenants physically happen in the temple-- that's is indeed one key reason for having such places set apart. The room where sealings occur is set apart only for sealings.Can the covenant be made anywhere other than a Temple? I was under the impression it had to be made in a Temple as the seal had to be made there, which is one of the major reasons for the Temple, according to LDS.org anyways.
So it is policy, but not Doctrine? So it could be changed if the leadership desires to or there is Prophesy to change it?Today, it is policy these covenants physically happen in the temple-- that's is indeed one key reason for having such places set apart. The room where sealings occur is set apart only for sealings.
Historically that has not always been the case. For one example, the Endowment House was used during the long time building the Salt Lake Temple. Mormon Endowment House
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