I'm surprised we're not hearing from people on the Left complaining that all these health care workers who have been hailed as heroes not too long ago are now being fired from their jobs by a hospital system that obviously sees these workers as disposable.
it's all part of working in health care
SIL is a nurse & she got her shot
if those nurses don't care about their patients, they deserve to be fired
people who are sick enough to be hospitalized don't need to risk getting covid while being a patient!
.....yet.I don’t have COVID or the vaccine
Well then, please explain. What exactly are you agreeing with and why?Make it three.
At least 153 employees of a Houston hospital — including nurses and other medical staff — were fired or resigned Tuesday after refusing to get vaccinated against COVID-19, one of the first mass terminations since vaccinations started in the U.S. this year, reinvigorating a national anti-vaccine movement.
Misleading. In order for your concern to have any merit, the negative impact of having a vaccinated worked asymptomatically infecting patients would have to not be offset by a lowered risk that the health care worker would get infected in the first place.If these vaccines can turn some into asymptomatic spreaders, how does that work with your plaint?
Why would we complain? It is almost as though you think that past exemplary behavior "cancels out" present reckless behavior.I'm surprised we're not hearing from people on the Left complaining that all these health care workers who have been hailed as heroes not too long ago are now being fired from their jobs by a hospital system that obviously sees these workers as disposable.
It just seems illogical to me that someone who works that closely to the effects of COVID (death, respirators, hospital capacity issues, overworked nurses, doctors, and support staff, etc.) would refuse a vaccine that would prevent them from potentially being a patient in their own hospital.
Turn-around time for highly sensitive testing is too slow -- they would be transmitting the virus before they knew it. Rapid testing has too high a false negative rate.What ever happened to testing? The nurses could be tested to see if they have Covid or not, and then sent home if they do.
Some of them got sick despite the PPE. And it's not clear what you're suggesting -- that they should go on living in motels and RVs instead of getting vaccinated?All those doctors and nurses wearing the fully enclosed protective gear before there was a vaccine. What happened to that? Those nurses worked very long shifts and sacrificed being with their families because they didn't want to risk bringing the virus home, so they lived in RVs and motels.
Vaccination also worked before, and very well. The hospitals I'm familiar with already require staff to have received multiple vaccinations. Why is this suddenly an issue?It worked before.
Yes, I have heard of similar reactions from getting the vaccine. I was a little tired for a day or two, but no big deal. I have also heard of worse reactions from people who got COVID. I wonder if any of the over 600,000 people who have died from COVID wouldn't have minded feeling a little exhausted or a low grade fever for a couple of days instead?At the hospital I work, there was a lot of initial hesitancy, mainly around the unknown side effects. My second shot left me exhausted for two days. A friend was out of work with a low fever for 4 days. My wife was sick for one morning and fine by the afternoon. I don't know if anyone is still refusing but I'm sure there are a few.
Some of them got sick despite the PPE. And it's not clear what you're suggesting -- that they should go on living in motels and RVs instead of getting vaccinated?
Vaccination also worked before, and very well. The hospitals I'm familiar with already require staff to have received multiple vaccinations. Why is this suddenly an issue?
So you won't have any objections after they receive full approval? (Which they surely will, given their excellent safety and efficacy record.)Because these current "vaccines" aren't even approved by the FDA yet, except for emergency use.
There are plenty of reports about injuries and deaths occurring right after lots of other vaccines, too. They mean precisely nothing unless there are more of them than one would expect from that number of people without being vaccinated. And such effects have indeed been found with covid vaccines: blood clotting with the AZ and J&J vaccines and (probably) myocarditis with the mRNA vaccines. Both are very rare. Hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated, and there are a lot of people looking very hard for bad effects as a result -- people in countries all over the world, people with no vested interest in the success of the vaccines.Also, plenty of reports of injuries and deaths have been occurring right after the shots, even though people like to dismiss them.
This is deeply misleading. How can you not possibly know that correlation does not equal causation?Also, plenty of reports of injuries and deaths have been occurring right after the shots, even though people like to dismiss them.
This is absolutely correct.They mean precisely nothing unless there are more of them than one would expect from that number of people without being vaccinated.
Anybody else wanna handle this hanging curveball?You can't really blame people for not wanting to take a covid vaccine. I certainly wouldn't.
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This is deeply misleading. How can you not possibly know that correlation does not equal causation?
I guarantee you will not be able to draw a credible causal connection between the vaccine and anything other than a miniscule number of deaths.