I have often heard from Dispensationalists that animal sacrifices will occur in the Millennial temple, as a "memorial".
So much for the lion laying down with the lamb...
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Animal sacrifices in order to be saved? Who claims that?
That didn't work the first time that way and David proved that in Romans 4.
Revelation 15:1-2 They sing the song of Moses and the Lamb.
That is two gospels.
You are wrong again. Jerry kelso
To reiterate, the RCC apostasized, and was/is not representative of the true Christian Church. Their persecutions (and anyone's) are not defensible. But they did accept ethnic Jews who converted to Catholic "Christianity", and so cannot be characterized as anti-Semitic, which is by definition anti-ethnic.
3. I do not believe in Israel national repentance because no one can define specifically the distinguishing characteristics which make one a qualifying Israelite. Ethnicity or any criteria other than faith and obedience do not qualify. The families of the earth are blessed through Christ who is the seed of Abraham and recipient of the promises (Gal. 3:16). All the promises of God are fulfilled in Christ (2 Cor. 1:20) who is the heir of all things (Heb. 1:1-2). All things means no exceptions, and thus includes the OT land promises, restoration promises, and all else. We who are in Christ are declared to be joint heirs with Him. There are no promises for anyone not in Christ.
4. God always preserves His remnant of faithful believers, and His truth. There is no enduring pretrib rapture doctrine in the true Christian Church for over 1800 years, thus it fails a basic test of Scriptural orthodoxy.
5. They were given the oracles, and those should have been instrumental in bringing them to Christ, but due to rebellion and rejection, they were not.
6. There is only one gospel, and it is the "gospel of everything": of the kingdom (Matt. 24:14), of God (Rom. 1:1), of Christ (Rom. 15:19), of salvation (Eph. 1:13), and of peace (Eph. 6:15). Paul curses anyone preaching any other gospel (Gal. 1:8).
Jerry,jgr,
1. Accepting ethnic Jews doesn't mean they were not Semitic in all.
The RCC were two faced and mixed in men's tradition etc.
Taking in ethnic Jews as proselytizing and claiming they got the truth from the Jews and then turning around to try and steal their covenants and Replace them by AS is antisemetic and they killed them too because they wanted to exalt the church about the Jews. Antisemitism was about the Catholic Churches hatred of the Jews because being God's chosen people. AS is the culprit and faulty hermeneutics as I have already stated.
2. Galatians 3:16; 2Corinthians 1:2O; and Hebrews 1:1-2 have all to with salvation for new Covenant believers not the physical KoH itself.
3. Matthew 24:14 you are wrong according to the context.
In Jesus says the KoH and the KoG were under one program but they were two different and distinct things.
We have a body soul and mind in one person but they are still 3 distinct parts of us that function differently.
Their is a physical KoH reign on earth as well as a spiritual kingdom of the spiritual rule of God in man's heart.
You believe that but even in the 1000 year reign there will be people who are not Christian ladies that obey the civil law but who will rebel after the 1000 years when Satan is loosed and deceives them and they are destroyed by fire out of Heaven. I' out of time but to say the least your hermeneutics are out of whack. Jerry kelso
I have often heard from Dispensationalists that animal sacrifices will occur in the Millennial temple, as a "memorial".
So much for the lion laying down with the lamb...
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Jerry,
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I'm certainly not attempting to defend the papacy, its prolonged apostasy is of great scriptural prophetic significance, and its war on the saints is unequaled in Christian history. But if it killed Jews even after they had converted to Catholicism, I'd be interested to see evidence.
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All promises fulfilled in Christ. All things inherited by Christ. KoG included. KoH included. No exceptions. No distinctions.
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One gospel. One kingdom. No separation of kingdoms expressed or implied. No distinction between kingdoms expressed or implied. KoG and KoH one and the same, consistent with their interchangeable use in Scripture.
You are wrong that their will be no sacrifices in the millennial kingdom though they will be for a memorial. Despite this the Lamb will lay down with the Lion.
The lion laying down with the lamb is a description of the curse being removed.
Your version of the millennium does not have the curse removed, because some rebel against Christ at the end of your millennium.
You cannot have it both ways.
Based on the Book of Hebrews, animal sacrifices and the Levitical priesthood are finished.
The Book of Hebrews is not wrong.
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baberean2,
1. You just gave your opinion and you did not prove the scripture and it's context I gave wrong.
2. The Levitical sacrifices were commanded by God as a type to the coming of Calvary's lamb, Jesus Christ.
The sacrifices in the millennial kingdom are eternal and for a memorial.
The purpose is different just like the Melchizedek is a different Priesthood from the Levitical priesthood. Are you going say Jesus is no longer a priest because that ended with the Levites? We will be priests in the KoH reign. Are we dismissed from that possibility because it was only Old Covenant?
3. You tie it to the curse because of the wolf and the lamb laying down together. Are you going to be a part of the PITA club?
Since that deals with peace and everyone will be saved according to you, how does God have enemies who he has to put down 1 Corinthians 15:24, why will God Psalms 2:9 and saints Revelation 2:26-27 rule the KoH with a rod of iron?
And why if their is no killing then why does God send fire out of Heaven to earth and destroy the last rebellion of mankind?
I believe you think that the last rebellion is the same as Armageddon on the Day of the Lord?
If that was true, then the 1000 years would have to be the tribulation which is absurd since Satan will be alive and well and give his power and seat and authority to the Antichrist and he is not bound for sin is rampant then.
If you say the 1000 year reign is today then why are people still being deceived by Satan.
Rebut these scriptures by answering according to the scripture. Jerry kelso
Jerry,
First of all it is PETA, instead of PITA.
Christ is the only High Priest, forever.
Based on Psalm 2, Christ does not correct the wicked with the rod of iron.
He destroys them.
The text does not say that Satan cannot deceive people during the thousand years.
It says the nations. Because there are missionaries all over the world whole nations have not been deceived, as they were during the time before Christ.
During the tribulation period most missionaries will likely be prevented from sharing the Gospel.
A major part of what you claim depends on a difference between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of Heaven, which is a difference that does not exist.
Even though this has been demonstrated on several occasions, you just continue to ignore it.
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The law will have to be kept which came from Moses law and some will be New Covenant Laws too and the punishment has to according to the law.
Since the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant "obsolete" based on the scripture below, your claim above about keeping Moses law in the future cannot be correct.
Heb 8:13 In that He says, "A NEW COVENANT," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
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baberean2,
1. You can do certain things contained in the Mosaic law and not be sinning.
You can abstain from pork as a Christian which is part of Moses law but you can't do it to live under the whole ethic of Moses and the purpose or reason was different back then.
You perform moral laws which was before and during the law and now under different rules. You have to look at the whole context that goes with doing the different Covenants that stem from gradual revelation.
2. Civil law is still around but under a different context than Israel who had theocratic government.
Adultery is still wrong but people are not stoned as punishment unless you're under Muslim law.
3. The reason for your weak logic is tunnel vision and refusal to look and understand the whole context and sane logic. Jerry kelso
Maybe you think the Apostle Paul had "tunnel vision" when he called the Sinai Covenant a covenant of "bondage" and compelled the Galatian believers to "cast out" the Sinai Covenant.
Gal 4:24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar—
Gal 4:25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children—
Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? "CAST OUT THE BONDWOMAN AND HER SON, FOR THE SON OF THE BONDWOMAN SHALL NOT BE HEIR WITH THE SON OF THE FREEWOMAN."
Gal 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman but of the free.
The inability to understand the difference between the Sinai Covenant and the New Covenant of Christ is one of the biggest problems in the modern Church.
The Judaisers are still with us today and many of those promoting your doctrine are Judaisers.
J.R. Church once went out to eat with another pastor from Texas and complained when the man ordered pork.
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You keep the 10 commandments and they are in Moses law and was the law at Mt. Sinai that is bondage.
I have never kept the 4th commandment and neither have most of those who claim that they do.
The 10 commandments are the Sinai Covenant, as revealed below.
Exo 34:28 So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.
Below Paul calls the Sinai Covenant "the ministry of death".
2Co 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
2Co 3:7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
2Co 3:8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?
You have been deceived by the continuing battle between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant of Christ.
Sadly, the Judaisers are still winning the battle.
There are two different sets of commandments in the verse below.
Joh 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
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You are trying to say I am being deceived by the continuing battle between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant.
By that absurdity you have no possibility to commit sin in the Ten Commandments because it is contained in the Old Covenant.
By claiming that we are still under the Old Covenant you are ignoring the "ministry of death written on stones" in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and the fact that the Old Covenant was "added" 430 years "after" the promise made to Abraham in Galatians 3:16-29, and Paul telling the Galatian believers to "cast out" the Sinai covenant of "bondage" in Galatians 4:21-31, and the New Covenant making the Old Covenant "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:6-13, and the contrast between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant in Hebrews 12:18-24.
Read all of those texts and then talk about the "absurdity" of claiming that we are still under the Old Covenant.
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I never claimed we are under the Old Covenant Law of Moses.
Why do you keep twisting my words.
You are the one who claimed we will be under the 10 commandments during the millennium, and based on Exodus 34:28 the 10 Commandments are the Sinai covenant.
Exo 34:28 So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.
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I did no such thing.
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