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Miracles Cannot Violate Natural Law

PsychoSarah

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That was a rather broadbrush assertion, with dismissal of the accounts of many regarding miraculous events intervening in history, that favored belief in God over unbelief. This is so, even though indeed many have come up with such that is or are imagined as gods. There is something of your imagination showing from such communication.
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miracles cannot violate natural law
My experience has always been that miracles are a restoration of God's natural laws. A miracle restores things back to the way God intended for them to be. This makes it difficult to prove miracles because you have to prove there was some sort of a problem in the first place.
 
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Ye godless heathen that pass by seeing this then
Not caring to answer for dismissal of any such event
Will see this then rise and rise again and again
Large font in orange is always such a convincing argument.
 
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Ophiolite said:
Large font in orange is always such a convincing argument.

I still didn't have a meme though, that seems to be more powerfully convincing yet! Right? It seemed I should have that still, too!

joshua 1 9 said:
My experience has always been that miracles are a restoration of God's natural laws. A miracle restores things back to the way God intended for them to be. This makes it difficult to prove miracles because you have to prove there was some sort of a problem in the first place.

That is an interesting way to look at it, and I can't actually argue against it. But miracles also give attention to God from whom they come, that also seems to be an important aspect to there being miracles. It is in this that miracles aren't such things that just happen, they are unusual, and accomplish some good, that would not ever just happen, so they are rare and isolated happenings. Defying natural explanation, they are known to happen only to rare eyewitness corresponding to those rare occurrences, and through the records made of those occurrences, sometimes with greater insight provided to later people that wouldn't be known to the original witnesses, through that. A small thing I might show of such, that is on my mind just now, Jesus' apostle John with others there saw water and blood pour out from the body of Jesus which had just been pierced, on the cross, no one there could know the significance, that is known to modern medical science now, that it was from a condition from being crucified which proves he was really dead. That he rose again and appeared to disciples afterward is really shown to be a miracle with that.

The perfection that was meant to be, from the beginning, in the design from God, would appear to be miraculous yet, with no killing ever.
 
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I still didn't have a meme though, that seems to be more powerfully convincing yet! Right? It seemed I should have that still, too!



That is an interesting way to look at it, and I can't actually argue against it. But miracles also give attention to God from whom they come, that also seems to be an important aspect to there being miracles. It is in this that miracles aren't such things that just happen, they are unusual, and accomplish some good, that would not ever just happen, so they are rare and isolated happenings. Defying natural explanation, they are known to happen only to rare eyewitness corresponding to those rare occurrences, and through the records made of those occurrences, sometimes with greater insight provided to later people that wouldn't be known to the original witnesses, through that. A small thing I might show of such, that is on my mind just now, Jesus' apostle John with others there saw water and blood pour out from the body of Jesus which had just been pierced, on the cross, no one there could know the significance, that is known to modern medical science now, that it was from a condition from being crucified which proves he was really dead. That he rose again and appeared to disciples afterward is really shown to be a miracle with that.

The perfection that was meant to be, from the beginning, in the design from God, would appear to be miraculous yet, with no killing ever.
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PsychoSarah said:
I really don't know what you chaotic neutral, or atheists, do with the resurrection. I do bring it up, over and over, but it just gets avoided. It seems such won't deal with what is so compelling an event, as that. Surely it is evidence of the miraculous from God.
 
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