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You cannot have the lion and the lamb lay down together

The New Covenant has made the Old Covenant "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13.

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The scripture does not say the lion lays down with the lamb ,
Hebrew8:13 does not say obsolete yet

13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

It doesn't become obsolete until after Jesus returns to Earth
 
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Matthew 25:46
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
 
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One thing I do know, a pre-tribulation rapture is found no place in scripture.
 
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Jesus Will Not return to an eastern gate in Jerusalem as you teach in error, he warned the believer against your teaching below.

"Believe It Not"!

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
 
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You start out with Jews As The Least Of Brethren?

National Ethnic Jews Have No Special Favor With God As You Claim.

God Is No Respector Of Persons. Romans 2:11
 
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One thing I do know, a pre-tribulation rapture is found no place in scripture.
No - that is one thing that you Don't know , you have no idea why the rapture happens - none whatsoever as I have asked this of you several times and you cannot answer this simple question
 
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Wrong AGAIN , using the verse you posted shows that you have no understanding what Ez 46 is referring to - it is not speaking of the second coming of Christ , try reading the book
 
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The 144,000 will. They get redeemed among men before the millennium begins. They were not raised from the dead, but have survived clear past Armageddon and will restart Israel back in her land. They learn a song that comes down to them from heaven.
Jesus Returns to the battle of Armageddon in the "Second Coming" in flaming fire, this earth is dissolved by fire, "GONE"!
2 Peter 3:10-13, Revelation 20:7-9, 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8, Malachi 3:2, Luke 17:29, 1 Corinthians 3:13
 
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Wrong AGAIN , using the verse you posted shows that you have no understanding what Ez 46 is referring to - it is not speaking of the second coming of Christ , try reading the book
Ezekiel chapters 40-46 is the Zerubbabel 2nd Temple 536BC, the prince entering the gate is the temple high priest, where animal sacrifice took place prior to calvary.

Ezekiel 40:1-4 receieved the vision in the 25th year of the babylonian captivity, 45 years after the vision the Jews returned to Jerusalem and built the temple.
 
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No - that is one thing that you Don't know , you have no idea why the rapture happens - none whatsoever as I have asked this of you several times and you cannot answer this simple question
No pre-trib rapture in the Holy Scripture, none..
 
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No pre-trib rapture in the Holy Scripture, none..
First prove that you know why there is a rapture , so that we know we are talking about the same thing - you have no idea whatsoever therefore why it happens and you have no idea what it's purpose is for and you have nothing more than an assumption , and what's worse you don't even understand what you are assuming
 
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Wrong AGAIN
You overlook all the subtle differences that make a big difference in the story just a couple
The Prince is given land , the whole territory , that did not happen to the priests in the OT
The Prince is giving the burnt offering
Dan9:25 shows the Prince is Messiah !
too many details to present to someone who says he already knows

17 And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.

 
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Not only did He prepare it by keeping the whole Sinai Covenant perfectly.
He was the sin offering.


Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; (See Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.



We can either stay on the road to Emmaus, or go into the ditch.


Luk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

Luk 24:26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

Luk 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.


He said on the road to Emmaus that the whole Old Testament is about Him.

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