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Lamad
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"The bible certainly does not give the idea that the Lord killed him!"
Enoch died a natural death and the Lord received His spirit .... just like any other human
The human spirit returns to the Lord who makes it
And there are none of the Lord's ecclesia already in "heaven" and in the state of immortality .... all of the dead in Christ are still waiting for His call
1 Corinthians 15:51-58 attest to this fact .... all of the dead are "sleeping" no time passing for them .... they are not aware of it [Ecclesiastes 9:5]
And they will all awake at the Lord's call [1 Thessalonians 4:13-18] and will be caught up along with the living at the time
The thief on the cross is still waiting, but the next thing that he will be aware of after his death is the Lord's call to wake him ..... no time passing for him
No man has gone to heaven [made immortal with an immortal body] except the One who has come down from heaven
There are no contradictions in scripture and the human out of the physical body does not experience time passing like it does when one is in the physical body
Oh my! And I thought you were a straight shooter. Now you are teaching the false doctrine of soul sleep. Will doctrines of devils never end?
How could you be so right in other places and so wrong here? All who have died in Christ are very much ALIVE in heaven now, just separated from their flesh and blood body. Same with all the righteous from the Old Covenant.
May I suggest you camp out on the story of the rich man and Lazarus until you get it? There is NO SUCH THING as soul sleep. That is a doctrine of devils.
Even that story is not pertinent for today, for when Jesus rose He took all those imprisoned in Hades to heaven with Him. "Paradise" where Lazarus was then is empty today.
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