There will be at least two times in the future where some are "taken" and some are left behind and NOT taken.
1) the rapture of the church: here those who are "in Christ" are taken, and sinners left behind. Lukewarm are also left behind. Perhaps some who believe in a posttrib rapture will be left behind.
2) the parable of the tares or the dragnet. Here some will be taken and cast straight into hell. My guess is the spirit is taken and the body left to fall dead.
No, no - no guessing allowed - we have enough of those on here, lol
I will differ with you as to those lukewarm and or as to one's particular eschatology's impact on their salvation.
Romans 5 makes it not only clear that those who have been justified by faith without works shall be saved from wrath through
His life.
Depends on whether or not they were justified before their lukewarm-ness and or eschatology. If before, then they are justified and sealed in Him.
Ephesians 1:
13. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14. Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
As Israel's failure under the Law only served to point to God's coming Glory in His Son, that side of the Cross, our failure under His Grace and His Kindness toward us in His Son this side of the Cross just points to His Glory!
In this, the issue now is...
Romans 5:
1. Therefore
being justified by faith, we
have peace with God
through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2. By whom also we have access by faith into
this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
9. Much more then, being
now justified
by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath
through him.
10.
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
11. And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we
have now received the atonement.
17. For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of
the gift of righteousness shall reign in life
by one, Jesus Christ.]
18. Therefore
as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;
even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
20. Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound.
But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
21.
That as sin hath reigned unto death,
even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
Grace reigns through the righteousness of One freely given us in Him unto eternal life - what this righteousness given us in Him produces is the same element - righteousness that is eternal.
Nevertheless - Romans 6:
1. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2. God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3. Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4. Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6. Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
This grace wherein we stand justified before the Father in His Son by faith, and therefore at peace with the Father; His wrath appeased - this grace is not a license to sin, rather - freedom from the flesh - to serve.
That some end up lukewarm because performance based acceptance is what they are taught, as you are promoting in your post, iamlamad, and hat others never sort this out and end up preterist, post-trib, you name it, does not render this truth not so.
Question is - It depends on whether or not they were justified before their lukewarm-ness and or eschatology. If before, then they are justified and sealed in Him.
