• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

Matthew 1:1

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
και ει η δεξια σου χειρ σκανδαλιζει σε
εκκοψον αυτην και βαλε απο σου
συμφερει γαρ σοι ινα αποληται εν των μελων σου
και μη ολον το σωμα σου βληθη εις γεενναν

And if the right your hand traps you
cut-off it and throw from you
better for you that destroy one the parts your
and not whole the body your be-thrown into ge'ennan

And if your right hand traps you
cut it off and throw it from you,
for it's better that you destroy one of your parts
and not have your whole body be thrown into Gehenna.

γέενναν, γέεννα:
Of Hebrew origin (gay' and Hinnom); valley of (the son of) Hinnom; ge-henna (or Ge-Hinnom), a valley of Jerusalem, used (figuratively) as a name for the place (or state) of everlasting punishment -- hell.
(Strong's)
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
ερρεθη δε οτι ος αν απολυση την γυναικα αυτου δοτω αυτη αποστασιον

it-has-been-said also that whoever would release the wife his must-give her divorce-certificate

It has been said that whoever would release his wife must give her a divorce certificate,

ἀπολύσῃ, ἀπολύω:
dismiss, divorce, abandon, release.
From apo and luo; to free fully, i.e. (literally) relieve, release, dismiss (reflexively, depart), or (figuratively) let die, pardon or (specially) divorce -- (let) depart, dismiss, divorce, forgive, let go, loose, put (send) away, release, set at liberty.
(Strong's)
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
εγω δε λεγω υμιν
οτι ος αν απολυση την γυναικα αυτου
παρεκτος λογου πορνειας
ποιει αυτην μοιχασθαι
και ος εαν απολελυμενην
γαμηση μοιχαται

I however I-tell y'all
that whoever would separate the wife his
except word-reason sexual-immorality
makes her commit-adultery
and whoever if she-has-been-made-to-be-divorced
marries-her commits adultery

I, however, I tell you
that whoever would be separated from his wife
except by reason of sexual immorality
makes her commit adultery.
And whoever marries her, if she has been put aside,
commits adultery.
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
παλιν ηκουσατε οτι ερρεθη τοις αρχαιοις
ουκ επιορκησεις
αποδωσεις δε τω κυριω τους ορκους σου

Again you-have-heard that said the ancients
not upon-vow
give-to but the lord the vows you

Again, you have heard that the ancients said,
"don't make a vow,
but give your vows to your lord,"

or:
Again, you have heard that the ancients said,
"don't commit perjury,
your vows are given to your lord,"

ἐπιορκήσεις, ἐπιορκέω: perjure, swear falsely
From epiorkos; to commit perjury -- forswear self.
ἐπίορκος: perjurer
From epi and horkos; on oath, i.e. (falsely) a forswearer -- perjured person.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
εγω δε λεγω υμιν
μη ομοσαι ολως
μητε εν τω ουρανω
οτι θρονος εστιν του θεου

I however I-tell all-of-you
don't swear-an-oath at-all
neither in the heaven
that throne is the God

I, however, tell you
don't swear an oath at all,
neither in the heaven
because that is the throne of God,
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
μητε εν τη γη
οτι υποποδιον εστιν των ποδων αυτου
μητε εις ιεροσολυμα
οτι πολις εστιν του μεγαλου βασιλεως

nor in the earth
that under-foot-object is the feet his
nor into Ierosoluma
that city is the great king

nor by the earth,
for that is the footstool for His feet,
nor by Jerusalem
for that is the Great King's City,

γῇ: country, ground, land, world.
Contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application) -- country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.
(Strong's)
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
μητε εν τη κεφαλη σου ομοσης
οτι ου δυνασαι μιαν τριχα
λευκην η μελαιναν ποιησαι

and-not on the head your swear-an-oath
because not able one hair
white or black make

and don't swear an oath on your head
because you are not able to make one hair
white or black.
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
εστω δε ο λογος υμων ναι ναι ου ου
το δε περισσον τουτων εκ του πονηρου εστιν

is-the but the word your yes yes no no
the but beyond these from the evil is

But make your word be yes yes, or no no,
and whatever is beyond this is from wickedness.

πονηροῦ: evil, grievous
From a derivative of ponos; hurtful, i.e. Evil (properly, in effect or influence, and thus differing from kakos, which refers rather to essential character, as well as from sapros, which indicates degeneracy from original virtue); figuratively, calamitous; also (passively) ill, i.e. Diseased; but especially (morally) culpable, i.e. Derelict, vicious, facinorous; neuter (singular) mischief, malice, or (plural) guilt; masculine (singular) the devil, or (plural) sinners -- bad, evil, grievous, harm, lewd, malicious, wicked(-ness). See also poneroteros.
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
ηκουσατε οτι ερρεθη
οφθαλμον αντι οφθαλμου
και οδοντα αντι οδοντος

heard that said
eye for eye
and tooth for tooth

You all have heard that it was said,
"eye for eye
and tooth for tooth,"
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
εγω δε λεγω υμιν
μη αντιστηναι τω πονηρω
αλλ οστις σε ραπισει επι την δεξιαν [σου] σιαγονα στρεψον αυτω και την αλλην

I however I-tell you-all
don't oppose the evil
but whoever you strikes on the right your jaw
turn him also the other

However, I am telling all of you,
don't oppose the evildoer
but whoever strikes you on the right side of your jaw,
turn to him the other side also.

σιαγόνα: cheek.
Of uncertain derivation; the jaw-bone, i.e. (by implication) the cheek or side of the face -- cheek.
(Strong's)

(Some Byzantine Manuscripts include σου and some do not. The main text in Pierpont and Robinson's 2005 edition does not include σου but it is included as an alternate reading in the margin.)
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
και τω θελοντι σοι κριθηναι
και τον χιτωνα σου λαβειν
αφες αυτω και το ιματιον

and the desiring you sue
and the coat your take
give him also the garment

And if someone desires to sue you
and take your coat,
also give him your clothing.

χιτῶνά: tunic, coat
Of foreign origin (kthoneth); a tunic or shirt -- clothes, coat, garment.

ἱμάτιον: apparel, clothing, garment
Neuter of a presumed derivative of ennumi (to put on); a dress (inner or outer) -- apparel, cloke, clothes, garment, raiment, robe, vesture.

(Strong's)
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
καὶ ὅστις σε ἀγγαρεύσει μίλιον ἕν
ὕπαγε μετ' αὐτοῦ δύο

and anyone you he-drafts mile one
go with him two.

And if anyone drafts you to go one mile,
go two miles with him.

ἀγγαρεύσει, ἀγγαρεύω:
Of foreign origin (compare 'iggra'); properly, to be a courier, i.e. (by implication) to press into public service -- compel (to go).

μίλιον:
Of Latin origin; a thousand paces, i.e. A "mile"
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
τω αιτουντι σε διδου
και τον θελοντα απο σου δανεισασθαι
μη αποστραφης

The asking you give
and the desiring from you borrow
don't turn from

Give to the person asking of you
and the person wishing to borrow from you,
don't turn away from him.

δανείσασθαι:
From daneion; to loan on interest; reflexively, to borrow -- borrow, lend.
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
ηκουσατε οτι ερρεθη
αγαπησεις τον πλησιον σου
και μισησεις τον εχθρον σου

you-have-heard that it-is-said
you-shall-love the neighbor your
and you-shall-hate the enemy your

You all have heard the saying,
"You shall love your neighbor
and hate your enemy."
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
εγω δε λεγω υμιν
αγαπατε τους εχθρους υμων
ευλογειτε τους καταρωμενους υμας
καλως ποιειτε τοις μισουσιν υμας
και προσευχεσθε υπερ των επηρεαζοντων υμας και διωκοντων υμας

I but I-tell you
love those enemies your
bless those curse you
good do those which-hate you
and pray for the mistreat you and persecute you

But I am telling you,
love your enemies,
bless those who curse you,
do good to those who hate you,
and pray for those who mistreat and persecute you.
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Matthew 5:45

οπως γενησθε υιοι του πατρος υμων του εν [τοις] ουρανοις
οτι τον ηλιον αυτου ανατελλει επι πονηρους και αγαθους
και βρεχει επι δικαιους και αδικους

So become sons the father your the in the heavens
that the sun his he-makes-rise upon evil-doers and good-doers
and rains upon just-people and unjust-people

So become Sons of your Father in the heavens,
that He makes the sun rise upon the evil and the good,
and rains upon the just and the unjust.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
εαν γαρ αγαπησητε τους αγαπωντας υμας
τινα μισθον εχετε
ουχι και οι τελωναι το αυτο ποιουσιν

if for you-love those they-love you
what wage-reward you-have
not also the tax-collectors the same they-do

For if you love those who love you,
what reward do you have?
Do not the tax collectors do the same?
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Matthew 5:47

και εαν ασπασησθε τους φιλους υμων μονον
τι περισσον ποιειτε
ουχι και οι τελωναι ουτως ποιουσιν

and if you-greet the friends your only
what more are-you-doing
not also the tax-man so they-do

And if you only greet your friends,
what more are you doing?
Doesn't the tax-man also do this?

UBS4 has ἀδελφοὺς (brothers) for φίλους and ἐθνικοὶ (gentiles) for τελῶναι.

TR has ἀδελφοὺς and τελῶναι.
 
Upvote 0

Timothew

Conditionalist
Aug 24, 2009
9,659
844
✟36,554.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Matthew 5:48

εσεσθε ουν υμεις τελειοι
ωσπερ ο πατηρ υμων ο εν τοις ουρανοις τελειος εστιν

you-will-be then plural-you complete
as the Father your the in the heavens complete is

Then you will be complete,
as your Father in the heavens is complete.

τέλειοι,τέλειός:
complete, perfect, mature
From telos; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.)
(Strong's)
 
Upvote 0