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I honestly don't care what people think when it comes to this subject anymore because I've learned that most of the nonsense is based on the antimasonry movement of the 1800's and not based in fact. It's like saying your children can't join the a karate class or do yoga because it's not Christian.
Let me tell you, most of what passes for "ministries" in Baptist churches simply are not. That includes AWANA, Vacation Bible School, playing Bible hangman in "Jr. Church" when those kids should be worshiping God in the congregation with their parents,
etc. The list goes on.
Unless someone requires you to sell your soul--or asks you to do that or implies that you should or rewards you if you do so--the claim is meaningless. Since Masonry doesn't ask any member to hold to any particular religion and isn't affiliated itself with any religion, the claim is meaningless. Or shall we rather say it's just wrong?![]()
I'm sorry that you got such an impression from that fellow. Most Masons are Christians and churchgoers and not at all "esoteric" or Eastern in their spiritual ideas. It is correct that Masonry doesn't impose any doctrinal ideas upon the members other than that it is required that a member be a monotheist. It's not a religion and no worship services take place.
Incidentally, it's correct that Masonic lodges do not have bars and they are not places for drinking. That's different from most other lodges or groups (usually named after some animal) in which drinking is a leading attraction.
I would ask a question, that can a man proclaim Christ openly among the Masons?
Would that violate their rule of lack of affiliation?
I stumbled across this Baptist Webb Site,that claimed Shriners must pledge to Allah.
To my knowlage to become a Shriner is a high order of Masons.
Thoughts?
The Shriners,The Fez, Masons and Islam.
The Shriners,The Fez, Masons and Islam.
True ,a Shriner is a high ranking person in the Masonic orderNot all Masons are Shriners but all Shriners are Masons.
In the lodge I'm a member of...yes! I was asked to be the Chaplin so you know I'm going to be bringing the Gospel and praying in Christ's name.
In many lodges, yes it would.
Best bet would probably be to do an internet search.Any thoughts on the Masons? A fella I know is joining and I'd thought I'd ask.
Yours in the Lord,
jm
True ,a Shriner is a high ranking person in the Masonic order
Best bet would probably be to do an internet search.
Use search terms like "masons", "freemasonry", etc etc (use several others arbitrarily - it will work out if you keep seeking until you find out)....
And verify everything, test it , by Scripture....
Too many contradicting opinions here on the forum to know what's what.
No worries (if you belong to God through Jesus).
Not being open is not the same as denying. I am not 'open' about my walk with Christ in my school. Does that mean I am denyig Him? Of course not.I would ask a question, that can a man proclaim Christ openly among the Masons?
Would that violate their rule of lack of affiliation?
It brings to mind a Verse from Matthew:
Matthew 10: 33. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Since it is a matter of affiliation what Does our Lord think about the affiliation?
I suppose I would have to be better informed as to the rules of free Masonary.
Not being open is not the same as denying. I am not 'open' about my walk with Christ in my school. Does that mean I am denyig Him? Of course not.
So do you think I should go around evangelizing everyone everywhere I go, regardless of context? That is how I am reading this?EXB
“All those who ·stand before others and say they believe in me [L confess/acknowledge me before people], I will ·say before my Father in heaven that they belong to me [L confess/acknowledge them before my Father in heaven].
GNV
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
GW
“So I will acknowledge in front of my Father in heaven that person who acknowledges me in front of others.
GNT
“Those who declare publicly that they belong to me, I will do the same for them before my Father in heaven.
HCSB
“Therefore, everyone who will acknowledge Me before men, I will also acknowledge him before My Father in heaven.
ICB
“If anyone stands before other people and says he believes in me, then I will say that he belongs to me. I will say this before my Father in heaven.
Matthew 10:31-33Expanded Bible (EXB)
31 So don’t be afraid. You are ·worth much more [more valuable] than many sparrows.
32 “All those who ·stand before others and say they believe in me [L confess/acknowledge me before people], I will ·say before my Father in heaven that they belong to me [L confess/acknowledge them before my Father in heaven]. 33 But all who ·stand before others and say they do not believe in me [L deny/disown me before people] I will ·say before my Father in heaven that they do not belong to me [L also deny/disown them before my Father in heaven].
So do you think I should go around evangelizing everyone everywhere I go, regardless of context? That is how I am reading this?
Hi, "now faith."I would ask a question, that can a man proclaim Christ openly among the Masons?
Would that violate their rule of lack of affiliation?
It brings to mind a Verse from Matthew:
Matthew 10: 33. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Since it is a matter of affiliation what Does our Lord think about the affiliation?
I suppose I would have to be better informed as to the rules of free Masonary.