Mark of the Beast

[Broken Fence]

Now something else that needs considering, in Rev 16:2 the reference to the word "sore" is that a plural or singular? The reason I ask because the greek word concerned is G1668 helkos and can be used as either sore or sores.

The question is how was it understood in the greek? Does the english translation match how the passage was understood in the greek?

If it was to be understood in a plural context, could this be a reference to sores all over the body? Could the sore/sores be in reference to foreign bodies inside the human body?

If a person is injected with nanobots, that person will have foreign bodies inside them. If that is the case, could the description given in Rev 16.2 be a reference to foreign bodies inside a person?

Never thought of that. Good point.

 

[alertandawake]

Never thought of that. Good point.

And if also looking at verses 16.10-11, is the word "they" a reference to the people that have the mark? I note in verse 16.11 there is also the word "sores" there.

Now for arguments sake, if the mark of the beast is some kind of vaccine, there could also be some kind of vaccination scar.

If we look at it logically, the ones who do get the mark of the beast, well in the early stages when people start getting it, there would have to be some way for a "believer" to know who has taken the mark ?

Perhaps looking at the various descriptions, (rev 16.2, rev 16.10-11), we could be looking at a situation that those who do get the mark, the side effects can be going from bad to worse, making the individual cursing the day they accept it.

How often we see people, they do bad decisions, not think about the consequences, and instead of said person realize it was their own actions, said people instead have this attitude "Why is God doing this to me?"

 

[Broken Fence]

And if also looking at verses 16.10-11, is the word "they" a reference to the people that have the mark? I note in verse 16.11 there is also the word "sores" there.

Now for arguments sake, if the mark of the beast is some kind of vaccine, there could also be some kind of vaccination scar.

If we look at it logically, the ones who do get the mark of the beast, well in the early stages when people start getting it, there would have to be some way for a "believer" to know who has taken the mark ?

Perhaps looking at the various descriptions, (rev 16.2, rev 16.10-11), we could be looking at a situation that those who do get the mark, the side effects can be going from bad to worse, making the individual cursing the day they accept it.

How often we see people, they do bad decisions, not think about the consequences, and instead of said person realize it was their own actions, said people instead have this attitude "Why is God doing this to me?"

Yea I read something about a covid tracker on your phone could be implemented to identify people who had vaccine whether would be able to buy or sale. I am not sure if I fully accept the fact of microchip being in vaccine. The Bible is clear mark will be on hand or forehead. However God did say would be a strong delusion to take the mark.

 

[alertandawake]

There is something we need to consider, based on the description given in Rev 16.2, is this in relation as soon as each individual makes the choice to accept?

For arguments sake, let us go on the basis that the mark of the beast is some kind of medical treatment that on the outside appears to treat a disease, but in reality is something else. As soon as each individual chooses to accept, will the description given in Rev 16.2 happen straight away?

Naturally, when it comes to new treatment or new drugs, there needs to be test subjects, so it is a matter of needing volunteers to be the test subjects.

What happens to the ones who volunteer, will they show side effects straight away? What if those volunteers start to show the side effects that matches the descriptions given in Rev 16.2? Will people wake up and see what is directly in front of them or will they believe some kind of prepared "it is just a coincidence" speech of some kind.

 

[Broken Fence]

There is something we need to consider, based on the description given in Rev 16.2, is this in relation as soon as each individual makes the choice to accept?

For arguments sake, let us go on the basis that the mark of the beast is some kind of medical treatment that on the outside appears to treat a disease, but in reality is something else. As soon as each individual chooses to accept, will the description given in Rev 16.2 happen straight away?

Naturally, when it comes to new treatment or new drugs, there needs to be test subjects, so it is a matter of needing volunteers to be the test subjects.

What happens to the ones who volunteer, will they show side effects straight away? What if those volunteers start to show the side effects that matches the descriptions given in Rev 16.2? Will people wake up and see what is directly in front of them or will they believe some kind of prepared "it is just a coincidence" speech of some kind.

Good point. There is several volunteers in the trials now. Need to observe. The effects is a good point also medical reasons would be a good mask for side effects.

 

[alertandawake]

Something worth looking at, have a read up on foreign body granuloma (check on google images for what it looks like). I also came across a article "Exposure to nanoparticles is related to pleural effusion, pulmonary fibrosis and granuloma"

You know what the scary thing is, I can just picture in my mind one of the deception tactics to convince people to accept the mark of the beast "Help save lives and take the mark" or something along those lines.

The mark of the beast is one prophecy that we need to know what it is, especially in this day and age. And with the amount of descriptions given, all the evidence points to a connection to the medical and pharmaceuticals sector. Now if the mark of the beast is connected, and one requires social distancing, this is where the cashless society comes into the picture.

Now why some people in this day and age still think it is Sunday worship is beyond me.

 

[cow451]

Utter fantasy and scaremongering.

Some people love conspiracy theories and will believe anything....

Of course, if it is on youtube, it must be the truth

I haven’t been to a good old fashioned conspiracy forum in years. Always the same song, just some different names...

 

[Purple Haze]

Now something else that needs considering, in Rev 16:2 the reference to the word "sore" is that a plural or singular? The reason I ask because the greek word concerned is G1668 helkos and can be used as either sore or sores.

The question is how was it understood in the greek? Does the english translation match how the passage was understood in the greek?

If it was to be understood in a plural context, could this be a reference to sores all over the body? Could the sore/sores be in reference to foreign bodies inside the human body?

If a person is injected with nanobots, that person will have foreign bodies inside them. If that is the case, could the description given in Rev 16.2 be a reference to foreign bodies inside a person?

One of the creators of RFID who became a Christian, I forget his name, was under the impression that the word was singular. He stated that RFID used lithium batteries (not sure whether they still do or not) and he asked medical professionals what would happen if they were to go bad- they answered it would create a painful sore.

Its a possibility

 

[Salvadore]

hope you don't own a cellphone, credit card or recent car because if you do? I'm afraid you've pretty much already been chipped.
tulc(is just sayn')

I don't wear my cell phone, car or credit card on my head or my hand
: )

 

[Salvadore]

Crime will become non existent

Nope.

 

[tulc]

I don't wear my cell phone, car or credit card on my head or my hand
: )

or...Scripture isn't nearly as specific about these things as we may have been lead to believe.
tulc(suspects wearing a car on the head would be quite...uncomfortable)

 

[alertandawake]

One of the creators of RFID who became a Christian, I forget his name, was under the impression that the word was singular. He stated that RFID used lithium batteries (not sure whether they still do or not) and he asked medical professionals what would happen if they were to go bad- they answered it would create a painful sore.

Its a possibility

This I have heard, as I myself have come across information like this. Read up on what happens if lithium comes into contact with water, it can easily burn flesh from what I read.

But what if the body was injected with lithium nanoparticles? How much water does the human body have?

 

[Salvadore]

Have no idea, I know I ain't taking no microchip. You do realize that these microchips are used in cattle and pets. Also in Michigan, Amish do not want to chip cattle.

The Seeker: Safe beef vs. Mark of the Beast

What your pet's microchip has to do with the Mark of the Beast

Note the first time beast is used in bible refers to animals created in Genesis.

Eat only veggies so as not to ingest the mark.

 

[Salvadore]

(suspects wearing a car on the head would be quite...uncomfortable)

Possibly

 

[cow451]

This I have heard, as I myself have come across information like this. Read up on what happens if lithium comes into contact with water, it can easily burn flesh from what I read.

But what if the body was injected with lithium nanoparticles? How much water does the human body have?

Lithium is also available by prescription. And is in tomatoes and some other foods. It’s a salt.

 

[d taylor]

The mark of the beast will be a physical tattoo, brand ( i favor the brand), or engraving (like a tattoo) that will go on to the skin of the person.

Many people see that we are so technical into computer junk now, they believe it will that way during the tribulation. But you lose your power source and where is your technology.

And what is the tribulation like with all the destruction brought on by God and some by man. Who will have time to maintain a power system. Just look what a place is like after a hurricane or a tornado goes through.

 

[alertandawake]

The mark of the beast will be a physical tattoo, brand ( i favor the brand), or engraving (like a tattoo) that will go on to the skin of the person.

I think the mark of the beast is beyond a mere tattoo. I think the mark of the beast is connected to some form of identification system that has a connection to the financial sector and the pharmaceuticals sector. I think it is also a means to have people connected to some kind of extremely powerful super AI computer of some kind for constant surveillance and monitoring.

Already we are seeing the rising of some kind of system that involves digital certificates as a form of identification. And with what is happening around the world now in some places, people being pressured to accept vaccines or face consequences.

No long ago I came across a article concerning Australia, with businesses wanting rights to sack employees who refuse to be vaccinated, in other words if you don't take the shot, you don't work.

I also was reading up on the so called "morality pill" to make people more compliant into accepting vaccines. I even came across a article that the pope supports vaccine for everyone. I can just picture the following scenario in my mind: The Pope (Vicar of Christ, Vicarius Christi in Latin, antichristos in Greek) telling the people to accept the vaccine, and you know what, many people will.

I actually think with what I have read, trying to keep up today on these matters, my personal opinion, I believe the mark of the beast is here, and my opinion, I think it is connected with vaccines. Why is there so much of a push and discussion of penalties or restrictions for those who refuse?

 

[d taylor]

I think the mark of the beast is beyond a mere tattoo. I think the mark of the beast is connected to some form of identification system that has a connection to the financial sector and the pharmaceuticals sector. I think it is also a means to have people connected to some kind of extremely powerful super AI computer of some kind for constant surveillance and monitoring.

Already we are seeing the rising of some kind of system that involves digital certificates as a form of identification. And with what is happening around the world now in some places, people being pressured to accept vaccines or face consequences.

No long ago I came across a article concerning Australia, with businesses wanting rights to sack employees who refuse to be vaccinated, in other words if you don't take the shot, you don't work.

I also was reading up on the so called "morality pill" to make people more compliant into accepting vaccines. I even came across a article that the pope supports vaccine for everyone. I can just picture the following scenario in my mind: The Pope (Vicar of Christ, Vicarius Christi in Latin, antichristos in Greek) telling the people to accept the vaccine, and you know what, many people will.

I actually think with what I have read, trying to keep up today on these matters, my personal opinion, I believe the mark of the beast is here, and my opinion, I think it is connected with vaccines. Why is there so much of a push and discussion of penalties or restrictions for those who refuse?

The mark of the beast comes at and about the mid mark of the tribulation, saying other wise goes against the Bible.

What the current mask situation shows, even now most people (including christians) are very willing to follow their government and science.

 

[JacksBratt]

There is something we need to consider, based on the description given in Rev 16.2, is this in relation as soon as each individual makes the choice to accept?

For arguments sake, let us go on the basis that the mark of the beast is some kind of medical treatment that on the outside appears to treat a disease, but in reality is something else. As soon as each individual chooses to accept, will the description given in Rev 16.2 happen straight away?

Naturally, when it comes to new treatment or new drugs, there needs to be test subjects, so it is a matter of needing volunteers to be the test subjects.

What happens to the ones who volunteer, will they show side effects straight away? What if those volunteers start to show the side effects that matches the descriptions given in Rev 16.2? Will people wake up and see what is directly in front of them or will they believe some kind of prepared "it is just a coincidence" speech of some kind.

It seems like this idea would portray the mark as being disguised.

Giving people a "vaccine" but it actually being the "mark".

I don't believe that this is the case. People who take the mark, IMO, will be fully aware of what they are doing.

There are two conditions for your loss of the ability to have salvation:

1/ Take the mark
2/ Worship the beats

This two conditions are paired together as prerequisites for permanent damnation. Not just taking the mark.

So, people will take the mark... full well knowing what they are doing.

I don't believe that it will be something that the government or Satan, sneaks in to those unaware.

So... IMO don't be afraid.. In the unlikely event that the rapture does not precede this time... we, Christians.. and those on the verge of becoming Christians.. will fully be aware of what they are doing, the choice that they are making and who they are choosing to serve.. when they take the mark.

Revelation 14:9-10
Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.

Revelation 16:2
So the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth; and it became a loathsome and malignant sore on the people who had the mark of the beast and who worshiped his image.

Revelation 19:20
And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.

Revelation 20:4
Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

Source: 10 Bible verses about Mark Of The Beast

 

[alertandawake]

Revelation 19:20
And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.

Notice a key word in Rev 19.20 - "deceived". Question is, how were the people deceived?