Man Arrested for Causing Trans Anxiety

[Belk]

Saying anything against LGBTTQQIAAP+ is becoming illegal as predicted.

Not in anything approaching reality. But you guys should whine some more about how your no longer allowed to bash gay people without push back. It's a great look.

 

[ozso]

Not in anything approaching reality. But you guys should whine some more about how your no longer allowed to bash gay people without push back. It's a great look.

"G" is just one letter in LGBTTQQIAAP+. But you're right, any pushback or objections to the LGBTTQQIAAP+ agenda equals bashing and must be stopped. Of course bashing those who don't support the LGBTTQQIAAP+ agenda is rightfully justified and to be encouraged.

 

[BPPLEE]

Not in anything approaching reality. But you guys should whine some more about how your no longer allowed to bash gay people without push back. It's a great look.

Did you read the article? I wouldn't have known that was a swastika unless someone told me. I don't see a case for having someone arrested for posting that.

 

[Belk]

Did you read the article? I wouldn't have known that was a swastika unless someone told me. I don't see a case for having someone arrested for posting that.

I agree that it strikes me as a ridiculous thing to arrest someone for but lets wait to see the results of the trial.

The idea that I am ridiculing is that people who speak out against homosexuals are somehow persecuted. If they had to go through a half of what homosexuals had to deal with I could see the constant agitation. But a single person being arrested in the UK does not mean the end of free speech in America.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Don’t go posting offensive things online. Seems obvious. UK is not America where being awful to people is not frowned upon. People in the UK are held to a higher, better standard of decorum.

Obviously.

I find your post offensive.

 

[Belk]

"G" is just one letter in LGBTTQQIAAP+. But you're right, any pushback or objections to the LGBTTQQIAAP+ agenda equals bashing and must be stopped. Of course bashing those who don't support the LGBTTQQIAAP+ agenda is rightfully justified and to be encouraged.

Yes yes. You are so put upon. You can't even post a gay swastika in the UK. When will the persecution stop?

 

[BPPLEE]

I agree that it strikes me as a ridiculous thing to arrest someone for but lets wait to see the results of the trial.

The idea that I am ridiculing is that people who speak out against homosexuals are somehow persecuted. If they had to go through a half of what homosexuals had to deal with I could see the constant agitation. But a single person being arrested in the UK does not mean the end of free speech in America.

No it doesn't. In the US if you are a celebrity or public official you can be canceled for saying something the LGBTQ community finds offensive. It hasn't come to arrests yet.

 

[rjs330]

context? fine

This bit of free speech will land you in jail too

Maybe, context is missing here.

 

[BPPLEE]

Maybe, context is missing here.

Someone could do it on their own property

 

[Yttrium]

Maybe, context is missing here.

Yeah, if you burn a cross on your own property, there's not much the law can do about it. If you do it on someone else's property, it can be seen as a form of terrorism, because it's an implied threat to the lives of the property owners.

 

[Belk]

No it doesn't. In the US if you are a celebrity or public official you can be canceled for saying something the LGBTQ community finds offensive. It hasn't come to arrests yet.

Just as you can be canceled for saying something Conservative Christians find offensive. See the Dixie Chicks and Disney in Florida. I have yet to see any sort of legislation limiting anti LGTBQ like I have seen from the right. Have you seen anything from the government coming from the left on this issue?

 

[BPPLEE]

Just as you can be canceled for saying something Conservative Christians find offensive. See the Dixie Chicks and Disney in Florida. I have yet to see any sort of legislation limiting anti LGTBQ like I have seen from the right. Have you seen anything from the government coming from the left on this issue?

I have seen some positive things for LGBTQ people
Beyond Bostock: The Future of LGBTQ Civil Rights
Oh and they are just The Chicks now. Dixie is considered offensive

 

[renniks]

Evidence please.

Just in Portland they cut the police budget by 16 million...it hasn't worked out so well.
"Portland has seen its most violent year, with a record number of 72 homicides, surpassing its previous full-year record of 66 in 1987. Nationally, homicides increased by nearly 30% from 2019 to 2020, based on FBI data. In Portland, deadly violence increased at a faster rate than nearly all major cities, with an 83% increase in homicides in 2020."

"Our police bureau staffing levels are at record lows and based on projected retirements, staffing levels will continue (to decrease) unless we take decisive action now," Wheeler said."

 

[SilverBear]

I agree that it strikes me as a ridiculous thing to arrest someone for but lets wait to see the results of the trial.

is it ridiculous to arrest someone who burns a cross or defaces a temple?

A hate crime is a hate crime whether it is done in person or in general. The goal of these acts are to threaten their targets, to express a threat of violence against individuals and whole communities.

 

[SilverBear]

No it doesn't. In the US if you are a celebrity or public official you can be canceled for saying something the LGBTQ community finds offensive. It hasn't come to arrests yet.

evidence?

 

[SilverBear]

Maybe, context is missing here.

prior to a 2003 ruling by the Supreme Court cross burning by racists was considered a form of free speech and was therefor protected speech.

 

[rjs330]

Really? The left match through American towns chanting ‘Jews will not replace us’ at Unite the Right rallies?

There is an awful lot of anti-Semitism from the left. The white supremacists are not the only ones who anti-Semitic. The left has also been anti-Semetic. In Europe there's been a large rise in it and in the US as well. So it you are going to bring up anti-Semitism you better look inward as well.

While the rise of far-right populism has played a role, many victims say those on the right account for only a fraction of these anti-Semitic incidents. In December, the European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights asked European Jews who was responsible for the most serious incident of anti-Semitic harassment they had experienced: Only 13 percent said it was someone with a far-right political view, while 30 percent said it was an “extremist Muslim” and 21 percent said it was someone with left-wing views.

We all can't stand white supremacists. I truly wish they would just disappear. But you should look at your own group with the same disgust. If there was a way to banish white supremacists we would love to. And we have to be honest with ourselves and admit that the white supremacists ARE a problem for us conservatives to deal with. They are extremists and do not represent our views. But the left has its own problems with anti-Semitism.

Opinion | Anti-Semitism Is Flourishing On The Left. Why Does No One Care?

It's time to admit it: The Left has an antisemitism problem | Opinion

So while it's okay to point to white supremacists and say they are bad and in the far right, it's another thing to try and say anti-Semitism is just a right thing. It's not.

The left as a whole is moving toward authoritarianism. You are PROOF of that in your posts.

 

[rjs330]

Yes yes. You are so put upon. You can't even post a gay swastika in the UK. When will the persecution stop?

When you don't go to prison for it?

 

[SilverBear]

Someone could do it on their own property

Racists tried that ploy and failed. They would threaten African American families by burning the cross in a willing neighbor's yard. It's still a hate crime and can still get you arrested.

 

[Belk]

is it ridiculous to arrest someone who burns a cross or defaces a temple?

Burning cross depends on the intent. Defacing a temple is destruction of property.

A hate crime is a hate crime whether it is done in person or in general. The goal of these acts are to threaten their targets, to express a threat of violence against individuals and whole communities.

Speech is different then action. The line for limiting speech must be finely tuned so as not to suppress the marketplace of ideas. I would much rather error on the side of limiting enforcement. I strongly disagree with what the person in the OP did. I do not believe it should be something the government stops. It should be stopped by people making reasoned arguments against the hate.