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[Desk trauma]

Put enough people on the Supreme Court and they could declare the constitution unconstitutional.

 

[Yttrium]

Considering the persecution of homosexuals by Nazis, equating LGBTQ to Nazis is inappropriate and offensive, even if the intent is just to claim that the LGBTQ movement is authoritarian (somehow).

Persecution of homosexuals in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

In fact, since the Nazis were prone to exterminating people they didn't like, using the symbol without providing an explanation could easily be misinterpreted as a terrorist-style warning against LGBTQ people, which would naturally cause law enforcement to take interest. But with a good explanation included with the symbol, the person using the symbol is just a massive jerk rather than a terrorist.

 

[Pommer]

Carano was fired. And comedy has always been the one bastion of freedom for inappropriate irreverent and irresponsibility. And now they are being cancelled too.

Authoritarianism of the LGBTQ ideology.

How can people tolerate being treated unfairly!?
After decades of being “cancelled” for simply existing, LGBTQIA+ have gotten a tiny, little bit of cultural power and there will be misuses of it from time to time until a new boundary is established.

Do you long for the day when we can “go back to normal” and excise LGBTQIA+ folk when they dare to show themselves?

 

[Belk]

Lol, people on the left are always trying to subvert or get around the constitution. They are continually calling it an outdated piece of paper. Time to get rid of it they say. Why do they want to pack the supreme court? To shut out constitutional judges and get people who won't adhere to the constitution.

People in this board say it all the time.

Calls to overturn the 2nd amendment, calls to end the electoral college are both just a couple of ways the left in this country are trying to get rid of it.

I have faith in the constitution. I DONT have faith in the left to abide by it.

The New York Times, has weighed in with a piece titled, “The Constitution Is Broken and Should Not Be Reclaimed.” In it, the co-authors, law professors Ryan D. Doerfler and Samuel Moyn – from Harvard and Yale respectively, of course – finally admit with words what the left has betrayed with its actions for as long as anyone can remember: It’s time to end the Constitution.

The real need is not to reclaim the Constitution, as many would have it, but instead to reclaim America from constitutionalism,”

Then you don't have faith in the constitution and the system it supports. The WHOLE idea of the constitution is to limit power and stop people from abuses. If it fails to do so then it is time to move on.

 

[BPPLEE]

That don’t seem to really work when you think about how many murders per 100,000 take place in America, though.

If the laws are not working the answer is more laws?

 

[Belk]

Put enough people on the Supreme Court and they could declare the constitution unconstitutional.

Put enough people anywhere and they can subvert government. That is a given. However this does not answer my question. Do you see a realistic path to amending the constitution?

 

[BPPLEE]

Put enough people anywhere and they can subvert government. That is a given. However this does not answer my question. Do you see a realistic path to amending the constitution?

From my admittedly limited knowledge of that subject I understand that it is a very difficult thing to do.

 

[Belk]

From my admittedly limited knowledge of that subject I understand that it is a very difficult thing to do.

Agreed. From everything I have read I don't see a realistic path to creating any changes. So barring some catastrophe I think it safe to say free speech will stick around for a while.

 

[durangodawood]

If the laws are not working the answer is more laws?

I'll have 2 pounds of laws please.

Laws are not a commodity.

 

[BPPLEE]

I'll have 2 pounds of laws please.

Laws are not a commodity.

If they are ineffective how will having more ineffective laws help?

 

[durangodawood]

If they are ineffective how will having more ineffective laws help?

So write some effective ones.

 

[Aldebaran]

Agreed. From everything I have read I don't see a realistic path to creating any changes. So barring some catastrophe I think it safe to say free speech will stick around for a while.

Not if enough "hate speech" laws are put in place and expanded to include anything that "offends" the easily offended.

 

[BPPLEE]

So write some effective ones.

To be effective they have to have consequences and be enforced. We seem to be moving away from enforcement and punishment, I don't think you can just blame the laws.

 

[ozso]

Glossed over what? Being called a Nazi? I did not gloss over it I actively mocked it. Welcome to the internet. Being called a Nazi is a daily occurrence here. Not persecution.

No what I'm talking about is the trend to have any opposition silenced by labeling any protester to LGBTTQQIAAP+ a Nazi, and making it illegal to say anything against LGBTTQQIAAP+. Which you've glossed over, rather than denied.

 

[Belk]

Not if enough "hate speech" laws are put in place and expanded to include anything that "offends" the easily offended.

Name a single hate speech law in the US. As far as I am aware all attempts have been considered unconstitutional.

 

[Belk]

No what I'm talking about is the trend to have any opposition silenced by labeling any protester to LGBTTQQIAAP+ a Nazi,

Name anyone whom has been silenced by being called a Nazi on either side? Being called a Nazi happens all the time. No one is silenced by it.

and making it illegal to say anything against LGBTTQQIAAP+. Which you've glossed over, rather than denied.

I know of no such law so I took it as hyperbole. Name the law and we can look into it but so far the only instances I have seen held up was some street preacher causing a disturbance. I have to date heard zero cases of someone being tried and convicted under any law forbidding discussion of LGTBQ issues.

 

[BPPLEE]

Name anyone whom has been silenced by being called a Nazi on either side? Being called a Nazi happens all the time. No one is silenced by it.



I know of no such law so I took it as hyperbole. Name the law and we can look into it but so far the only instances I have seen held up was some street preacher causing a disturbance. I have to date heard zero cases of someone being tried and convicted under any law forbidding discussion of LGTBQ issues.

You can lose your job over it. And it doesn't have to be intentional it is the perception that matters. Even telling someone you don't judge them is considered a micro aggression

 

[Desk trauma]

You can lose your job over it. And it doesn't have to be intentional it is the perception that matters. Even telling someone you don't judge them is considered a micro aggression

The list of things you cannot be legally fired for is quite short.

 

[Belk]

You can lose your job over it. And it doesn't have to be intentional it is the perception that matters. Even telling someone you don't judge them is considered a micro aggression

Itching to get rid of all those "right to work laws"?

You can lose your jobs over many things. Homosexuality being one of them. This has nothing to do with free speech and the government.

 

[BPPLEE]

Itching to get rid of all those "right to work laws"?

You can lose your jobs over many things. Homosexuality being one of them. This has nothing to do with free speech and the government.

Discrimination because of sexual Orientation is prohibited. The Supreme Court gave them equal protection