Man and dinosaur coexisting

[USincognito]

I visited that sight and couldn't find where creationist admitted it was a fake. What's up with that?

"That proved to be untrue as the human tracks were discovered to be those of a a three-toed dinosaur. Even the ICR backed off of that claim. Glen Kuban did a fairly long write-up on that in TalkOrigins.org. The fact that the original reports of synchronous human/dinosaur deposits were so thoroughly debunked and now this shows up gives one cause for concern."

 

[Dr GS Hurd]

Lets not forget the Delk print.

Oh, by all means do remember the fraud of the Delk print.




Those lines trace the intact sand lens details. They conclusively exposed this as a fake.

 

[cifi]

What intrigues me is that there are so many creationist based fakes. It's almost like there's an agenda...

 

[-57]

Oh, by all means do remember the fraud of the Delk print.




Those lines trace the intact sand lens details. They conclusively exposed this as a fake.

The compressions under and in the fossil show otherwise.

Sorry. This must be a sad time for evolutionism.

 

[Bradly Capel]

What intrigues me is that there are so many creationist based fakes. It's almost like there's an agenda...

What are the creationists who made up the fakes thinking? if no one else knows creationism is a lie they should because they are creating the lies, they are obviously not creationists and are only there to relieve the gullible of their money.

If I believe something and I see people around me telling lies and twisting the truth just to fool others into believing then what am I thinking? surly I must think they are doing it to fool people exactly like me, am I a fool?

 

[cifi]

The compressions under and in the fossil show otherwise.

Sorry. This must be a sad time for evolutionism.

Are you under the impression you've made a valid point? If humans existed with dinosaurs we'd find their footprints and fossils together all over the place.

The fact that creationists are clinging to these few examples (and yes there are few) amidst so many hoaxes, really makes you question; are they really doing this in the name of science and the truth, or do they have some agenda?

 

[AV1611VET]

If humans existed with dinosaurs we'd find their footprints and fossils together all over the place.

Let me get this straight:

Eight people get off an ark, along with dinosaurs.

The people go one way and the dinosaurs go another, then die out.

And your science says we should find their footprints and fossils together all over the place?

 

[Bradly Capel]

The people go one way and the dinosaurs go another, then die out.

Why did they die out and all the other animals survive? they had the same food to eat as all the others, nothing, all the vegetation was dead because it had been underwater for a year, don't tell me.... a miracle.

And your science says we should find their footprints and fossils together all over the place?

How long ago did those people get off the ark?

 

[Colter]

Why did they die out and all the other animals survive? they had the same food to eat as all the others, nothing, all the vegetation was dead because it had been underwater for a year, don't tell me.... a miracle.
How long ago did those people get off the ark?

Noah's flood myth is an invention of the Hebrew priesthood who, while redacting the entire OT in Babylon, were finding it difficult to trace their bloodlines all the way back to Adam. So, they decided to drown the whole world in it's own wickedness. They made NO claim to be writing the "word of God" rather it was a pseudo-biographical story intended to hold the scattered Israelite community together. It worked. It wasn't until the return to Jerusalem that the redacted books took on an authoritative appeal.

The dinosaurs died out 60,000,000 years ago as the result of evolution.

 

[Bradly Capel]

Noah's flood myth is an invention of the Hebrew priesthood who, while redacting the entire OT in Babylon, were finding it difficult to trace their bloodlines all the way back to Adam. So, they decided to drown the whole world in it's own wickedness. They made NO claim to be writing the "word of God" rather it was a pseudo-biographical story intended to hold the scattered Israelite community together. It worked. It wasn't until the return to Jerusalem that the redacted books took on an authoritative appeal.

That make too much sense to be true for a creationist but for me it makes perfect sense.

 

[JacksBratt]

My point was perhaps that is where the legends of flying dragons came from.





There are two sides to every story. I'm just saying these guys have a lot to lose if it was proven that evolution was false. Before and after the time Richard Dawkins was doing his 'debunking' of the dinosaur/human footprints documentary, the human footprints were in pristine condition. Richard Dawkins chose for whatever reason not to show the actual human footprints he was claiming to debunk in his documentary that he flew half way around the world to make. The main 'atheist' source Dawkins used for his documentary was Glen Kuban. It was reported by Glen West, Texas residence that after the Hawkins documentary was finished and also after the Dallas crime lab had authenticated the human footprints mixed with dinosaur that Glen Kuban was seen in the excavation site destroying the human tracks before allegedly leaving quickly before notice.





Doesn't mean there are none. And besides even if they were found we would just be told it's a hoax.

Anything in the fossil record that disproves evolution is a "fake" or a "hoax". Even fully intact skulls are, of course, fabricated. Even if there are 100's of them. Any link or any site that shows data or evidence to creation or is a biblical based website is biased and therefore untrue. Especially foot prints of man and dinosaurs. The dinosaur footprint "may" be authentic. However, the human footprint is just a similar shape caused by erosion...unbelievable as proof no matter how you slice it.

Every and any website that is evolution based is as true as the ground we stand on and written in stone fact. Any fossil fragment or tiny bone chip (even if it has been glued, filed or forced into similar bone fragments) is part of an indisputable transitional fossil and shouts that man came from a single cell miraculous unexplained spontaneous out of the blue forming of life that evolution believers will not attempt to explain and admittedly don't even need to deal with in order for their religion to continue.

This is all true (the proof of the fakes proving biblical data, and the solid truths of evolutionary support) because................men and women with an alphabet of letters after their name ..... say so!

 

[AV1611VET]

Why did they die out and all the other animals survive?

They couldn't handle the new polar climatology.

they had the same food to eat as all the others, nothing, all the vegetation was dead because it had been underwater for a year,

If all the vegetation was dead, how did the dove bring back an olive leaf?

don't tell me.... a miracle.

Okay, I won't.

Now ... see if you can figure it out with science.

I'll bet you can't.

How long ago did those people get off the ark?

4363 years ago.

 

[AV1611VET]

That make too much sense to be true for a creationist but for me it makes perfect sense.

Why am I not surprised?

 

[Colter]

Anything in the fossil record that disproves evolution is a "fake" or a "hoax". Even fully intact skulls are, of course, fabricated. Even if there are 100's of them. Any link or any site that shows data or evidence to creation or is a biblical based website is biased and therefore untrue. Especially foot prints of man and dinosaurs. The dinosaur footprint "may" be authentic. However, the human footprint is just a similar shape caused by erosion...unbelievable as proof no matter how you slice it.

Every and any website that is evolution based is as true as the ground we stand on and written in stone fact. Any fossil fragment or tiny bone chip (even if it has been glued, filed or forced into similar bone fragments) is part of an indisputable transitional fossil and shouts that man came from a single cell miraculous unexplained spontaneous out of the blue forming of life that evolution believers will not attempt to explain and admittedly don't even need to deal with in order for their religion to continue.

This is all true (the proof of the fakes proving biblical data, and the solid truths of evolutionary support) because................men and women with an alphabet of letters after their name ..... say so!

If we didn't have the Bible and studied the archeological layers, radiometric dating etc. then old earth evolution would seem very plausible, common sense. Evolution then wouldn't be absurd at all. But if someone dug up a Bible and implied that the earth is actually only 6,000 years old, that the ancient Chinese and every other race on earth are actually Noah's descendants well then the ridiculous unconformity would be the Bible.

WE of faith confuse faith in God with faith in the stories of an enchanting, mythical age. We are conflating human speculation and conjecture with reality

 

[Larniavc]

With life we cannot create it.

That's not true. My wife and I are both alive and we created our son, William. He seems pretty life like.

 

[Bradly Capel]

They couldn't handle the new polar climatology.If all the vegetation was dead, how did the dove bring back an olive leaf?Okay, I won't.
Now ... see if you can figure it out with science.
I'll bet you can't.4363 years ago.

I understand completely why American atheists are as vocal as they are now.

 

[dougangel]

I do know who they are.

When Hawking began his graduate studies, there was much debate in the physics community about the prevailing theories of the creation of the universe: the Big Bang and the Steady State theories. Inspired by Roger Penrose's theorem of a spacetime singularity in the centre of black holes, Hawking applied the same thinking to the entire universe, and during 1965 wrote his thesis on this topic. There were other positive developments: Hawking received a research fellowship at Gonville and Caius College. He obtained his PhD degree in cosmology in March 1966, and his essay entitled "Singularities and the Geometry of Space-Time" shared top honours with one by Penrose to win that year's prestigious Adams Prize.
Stephen Hawking's first major scientific work was published with Roger Penrose (a physicist very famous in his own right) and George Ellis (not as famous as Penrose and Hawking, but still very well known), during the period 1968-1970. They demonstrated that every solution to the equations of general relativity guarantees the existence of a singular boundary for space and time in the past. This landmark is now known as the "singularity theorem," and is a tremendously important finding, being about as close as we can get to a mathematical rationalization for the Big Bang Theory

In 1965 Arno A. Penzias and Robert W. Wilson of Bell Laboratories were testing a sensitive horn antenna which was designed for detecting low levels of microwave radiation. They discovered a low level of microwave background "noise", like the low level of electrical noise which might produce "snow" on a television screen. After unsuccessful attempts to eliminate it, they pointed their antenna to another part of the sky to check whether the "noise" was coming from space, and got the same kind of signal. Being persuaded that the noise was in their instrument, they took other, more sophisticated steps to eliminate the noise, such as cooling their detector to low temperatures.

Finding no explanations for the origin of the noise, they finally concluded that it was indeed coming from space, but that it was the same from all directions. It was a distribution of microwave radiation which matched a blackbody curve for a radiator at about 2.7 Kelvins.

After all their efforts to eliminate the "noise" signal, they found that a group at Princeton had predicted that there would be a residual microwave background radiation left over from the Big Bang and were planning an experiment to try to detect it. Penzias and Wilson were awarded the Nobel Prize in 1978 for their discovery.

Stephen hawking, worked out the Mathematical theory of the big bang. Giving Eisenstein theories beauty.
Arno A. Penzias and Robert W. Wilson found analogue evidence of the 2.7 degrees radiation heat noise from the big bang.
Therefore providing evidence of the big bang. And rightly receiving the Nobel prize for it even though they didn't know what it was at first.

I already knew all this. Not sure why your giving me hints.

""""Dr GS Hurd said: ↑
I see only 1 correct statement, and 5 false statements. Worse than average even for a creationist.""""

I see you have posted again. I was expecting a reply to the proof I gave you that I didn't make 5 false statements.

Dr GS Hurd.You in fact are the one who made the false statement.

 

[JacksBratt]

That's not true. My wife and I are both alive and we created our son, William. He seems pretty life like.

Again, you did not create life. You created a living being with life from your living sperm cell and life from her living ovum. Both were already alive and grew into a new being. No life was created but passed on.

 

[dougangel]

Again, you did not create life. You created a living being with life from your living sperm cell and life from her living ovum. Both were already alive and grew into a new being. No life was created but passed on.

Man can clone life. I think a more precise word is.
Man can't build life.
Or even come close to building brain that thinks for itself. Without input, doing so many quick and different things.
What was the point of this again lol

 

[JacksBratt]

Man can clone life. I think a more precise word is.
Man can't build life.
Or even come close to building brain that thinks for itself. Without input, doing so many quick and different things.
What was the point of this again lol

When you clone an organism you still start with living cells. Never do you start with a non living organism or part of a non living organism and begin life, start life, or add life. You start with a living tissue and create a larger organism.