MAGA hat wearing teens mock and harass Native American Vietnam vet

[JackRT]

Especially when we all know perfectly well people have a great tendency to lie about Trump.

From what I have observed there is little need to lie about Trump, the truth is quite sufficient.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Looked into them as in, did you verify them all fact? That's what a truthful/informed person does before they post them as such. Especially when we all know perfectly well people have a great tendency to lie about Trump.

I was editing my post while you were responding to it.

I reviewed the articles because that's what an informed person does. I also provided specific examples of Trump's behavior, as well as several articles of substantiated documented history of his behavior.

(1) He has repeatedly used the name of Pocahontas to insult and slander Elizabeth Warren.

(2) He recently used the Wounded Knee Massacre, where an estimated 300 hundred Lakota Sioux were slaughtered in cold blood to continue his verbal attacks against Elizabeth Warren.

(3) He and his father were sued by the government for housing discrimination against black people.

(4) He pointed to an African-American man at a rally and said, "Look at my African-African over here!"

All of the examples I provided of his behavior isn't made up to slander him and to lie about him.

 

[Random1234]

Hi all,

From my understanding, this is the full video:
youtube.com/watch?v=t3EC1_gcr34
- The elder approaches at 1hr 12min.
- Watch 5min before and 5min after (1hr 7min to 1hr 17min)

I'm not condoning the behavior and actions of the kids, however, if people are going to judge, it's only fair the truth be used.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

A little follow-up:

MAGA hat boy's mother blames 'black Muslims' after son harasses Native American man

Maybe black Muslims taught her the racism?

If I were to guess a wager, I would say that her son's racist behavior toward the tribal elder would have perfectly reflected her own if she had been there and witnessed the incident for herself.

 

[Kenny'sID]

I reviewed the articles because that's what an informed person does. I also provided specific examples of Trump's behavior, as well as several articles of substantiated documented history of his behavior.

(1) He has repeatedly used the name of Pocahontas to insult and slander Elizabeth Warren.

(2) He recently used the Wounded Knee Massacre, where an estimated 300 hundred Lakota Sioux were slaughtered in cold blood to continue his verbal attacks against Elizabeth Warren.

(3) He and his father were sued by the government for housing discrimination against black people.

(4) He pointed to an African-American man at a rally and said, "Look at my African-African over here!"

All of the examples I provided of his behavior isn't made up to slander him and to lie about him.

Then you are saying there is no doubt Trump shares the feeling those kids have towards this Native American man?

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Amid claims online that Mr Phillips had himself participated in harassing the boys, another video shows the moment he arrived at the scene of the confrontation. The 64-year-old can be seen interposing himself between the two groups, ending a few yards away from both, before the students approach him and begin chanting.

MAGA hat boy's mother blames 'black Muslims' after son harasses Native American man

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Then you are saying there is no doubt Trump shares the feeling those kids have towards this Native American man?

I have no doubt that he shares those feelings toward Native Americans, as a whole. I have yet to see any news reports of him publicly speaking out and condemning the harassment of the tribal elder.

 

[Kenny'sID]

If I were to guess a wager, I would say that her son's racist behavior toward the tribal elder would have perfectly reflected her own if she had been there and witnessed the incident for herself.

And they all got their attitudes by absorbing the spirit of Trumpism?

 

[Kenny'sID]

I have no doubt that he shares those feelings toward Native Americans, as a whole. I have yet to see any news reports of him publicly speaking out and condemning the harassment of the tribal elder.

Thank you.

And to your credit, you make some good points, but I still seriously doubt the kids attitudes can be attributed to Trumpism.

 

[Kenny'sID]

From what I have observed there is little need to lie about Trump, the truth is quite sufficient.

My observations tell me they lie because they lost the election....that simple

 

[mala]

welp now we know where the worthless kid got it from. his equally worthless mother. i guess when you're life sucks a bunch of lemons instead of making lemonade these people chose to blame everyone else. the same idiocy can be seen by members on this very forum who bemoan their lot in life if it wasn't for this or that minority.

 

[Redac]

Wow, a bunch of Catholic school boys refused to bow and scrape before these activists, and now there is a campaign going online to find out who these kids are, reveal their identities, get them expelled, and essentially ruin the rest of their lives. Largely because one of them had the audacity to smirk in response to some guy taunting him by banging a drum in his face.

 

[mala]

Or if you're paying attention to what people in the internet hatemob are trying to do.

But go ahead, share your incredibly cold take on what's going on.

a bunch of teenage hooligans harassing people on a their indigenous people's march? cause that's what happened. the lie that you're pushing though it just par for the course of pretending that you're an eternal victim. how about you belly up to the bar once in a while and do with a bit of truth instead of sacrificing what ever sense of decency or morality you have left.

 

[redleghunter]

Actually, based on their behavior...they were probably already punished in that way as kids.

There are numerous studies and peer-reviewed research showing that physical punishment actually makes kids more likely to act out.

What these kids needed was to not be heavily influenced by an emboldened far-right and the rhetoric that goes with it. Between their hat choice and their behavior, I'm assuming they're hearing far-right talking points at home and being guided in that direction.

There's a negative element of the far-right that's being emboldened and acting out in ways they previously wouldn't have thanks to them feeling a sense of superiority over the fact that "their guy" is in office and he says things that reinforce (whether directly or implied) that's reinforcing those questionable views.

If this was a trip sponsored by the diocese, then the hats should not have been worn.

 

[USincognito]

Not surprising...like I touched on before, this stuff starts at home.

This new sense of quasi-bigoted entitlement "Trump's (our guy) is president, this country is "ours" again like the good ol days" is becoming more pervasive - There were a sizable number of Americans who equated equality measures with "attacks on us", and didn't take kindly to the idea that, "White Christians aren't going to get to remain on the top of the social pecking order and dictate the rules to everyone else"

In a nutshell, some people don't deal well with the loss of preferential treatment.

Thank you for succinctly summarizing the point of this thread.

 

[USincognito]

ah, you beat me to it. The heavy.com piece has about an hour of video on either side of the start of the events in question.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/ky-catholic-teens-maga-taunts-native-american/

That Heavy link is particularly informative. It covers a lot more angles, information and comments from folks one degree separated from the events (plural).

It did raise one question. Where was the anti-abortion march located relative to the Indigenous People's March?

Actually two questions - Trump Tweets at the drop of a hat. Where is he? #WheresDonald

 

[USincognito]

..what the OP just did, as in basically stating trump condoned this action without validating the fact,

Please don't lie about me.

Newsflash... people lie about Trump...a lot.

But not nearly as much as Trump lies himself.

 

[USincognito]

Wow, a bunch of Catholic school boys refused to bow and scrape before these activists..

Yeah! How dare two brown people think they could intimidate and cower a group of 50 white Catholic young men?

..and now there is a campaign going online to find out who these kids are, reveal their identities, get them expelled, and essentially ruin the rest of their lives.

I know! What a horrible world we live in... where people have to take responsibility for their actions.

Largely because one of them had the audacity to smirk in response to some guy taunting him by banging a drum in his face.

Right, it's because he was smirking and Mr. Phillips was doing the taunting.

 

[USincognito]

Or if you're paying attention to what people in the internet hatemob are trying to do.

Actually some of us have been looking for more video for two days and your narrative that these poor oppressed white Catholic bros were chosen to be harassed just for their choice in headgear simply doesn't comport with reality.

 

[USincognito]

Hi all,

From my understanding, this is the full video:

- The elder approaches at 1hr 12min.
- Watch 5min before and 5min after (1hr 7min to 1hr 17min)

I'm not condoning the behavior and actions of the kids, however, if people are going to judge, it's only fair the truth be used.

Yeah, the interaction between the Black Hebrews and the MAGA bros at 1:09-1:11 is particularly informative. I love the Antifa infiltrator rolling around on his Onewheel hoverboard trying to start a fight. I'm surprised he wasn't throwing bottles of urine (though a bottle of water is tossed towards one of the BHI guys) and wielding a bike chain because, you know, this one person did it that one time so that means all of them do it every time.

And then another liberal plant, wearing a false flag MAGA hat and clearly on drugs because he pulls his shirt off in that cold weather, runs out of the crowd to goad the MAGA bros into doing a Haka.