Love codified in the Ten Commandments

[Hentenza]

I personally think everyday is a day to spend with God lol Even if you just sit and say "Hi... sitting here, listening if you wanna share anything." Not always going to the Lord to fix something or give you something. I think the very first thing God did with me before salvation and everything else, was define what a "relationship" looks like. How can we say we know God and spend no time with him? And learning scripture isn't a substitute for a literal relationship. It's like reading an autobiography, can you say you have a friendship after reading their book? But I do agree with you about spending time with him on saturdays, but honestly, I would say everyday. Is the Lord not worth it?

Thanks for posting this. Perhaps I misunderstood your previous argument. I can certainly agree with your post here.

 

[Delvianna]

Agree, we should worship and praise God 24/7 365. I read the Bible and pray daily, But God knows we have work and labors and families to attend to and gardening and gym , paying bills and what other daily activities that fill our lives. That's what makes the Sabbath so special is we can cast all of those things aside and just spend the Sabbath solely focusing on Him time alone and time with the church family Lev23:3 Acts 13:44 Isa66:23.

Isa 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,
14 Then you shall delight yourself in the Lord;
And I will cause you to ride on the high hills of the earth,
And feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father.
The mouth of the Lord has spoken.”

The Sabbath commandment is to cease working so we can keep the Sabbath day holy. Exo 20:8-11 Making it a joyful day spending time and resting in God on His sacred and holy day.

Thank you sister! It's funny, I'm doing this anyway, but I will take your correction as it was my thought that it only applied to just rest. But the verses you posted from Isaiah clearly says the point adds to delight in the Lord. So to set aside time with him and to make sure it's done consistently. So thank you for the addition and correction! I will definitely make sure I have time for the Lord on Saturdays.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Thank you sister! It's funny, I'm doing this anyway, but I will take your correction as it was my thought that it only applied to just rest. But the verses you posted from Isaiah clearly says the point adds to delight in the Lord. So to set aside time with him and to make sure it's done consistently. So thank you for the addition and correction! I will definitely make sure I have time for the Lord on Saturdays.

Sorry, I am not trying to correct, but just wanted to show you the Scriptures. Pray for the Holy Spirit to guide you on how to keep His Sabbath, God gives direction on the main points, but as you continue keeping the Sabbath and see the sacred time God wants to spend with us, there is no feeling like it. It really is a blessing and a delight.

God bless!

 

[SabbathBlessings]

My previous pastor, who I still watch, did a series on the Ten Commandments as we are told they are exceedingly broad Psa119:165. He goes through each commandment and uses stories from the Bibles and Scriptures to show just how broad they are.

Pastor Doug is a pretty popular pastor, it was told Charlie Kirk listened to his sermons and was a Sabbath-keeper sadly before he died and I know Chili from TLC posts about him a lot on her Instagram. To me he was just my regular pastor before I moved, but I appreciate his style of being more a teacher than a pastor.

At any rate these are from many years ago, but the message still as relevant.

Commandments 1-4 Love to God.

1st commandment

Worship Him Alone

Is it possible to be worshipping other gods and not know it?

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2nd commandment

The Image of God

The second commandment forbids worshiping an image of God. Attempting to represent God by material objects lowers our conception of Him and we begin to worship the creation rather than the Creator.

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3rd commandment

His Holy Name, Our Reverent Life

Why is it wrong to use God's name in vain? Why does He care about that?

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4th commandment

A Day to Remember

The fourth commandment is about the Sabbath. Keeping the seventh day of the week as a Sabbath was instituted at Creation to be observed as a memorial of the Creator’s work. The fourth commandment is the only one that begins with “Remember” and i...

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Blessings!

 

[Clare73]

Jesus said: Mark 12:29 Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ [b]This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
Mat22: 37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.

Jesus made two very important statements about these two commandments
That all the Law and Prophets (Scriptures) hangs on these two commandments- loving God and loving neighbor and there are no other commandments greater than these.

Which statement had never before been revealed. It was a new command of the New Covenant.

The Decalogue commanded "do no harm." It did not command "love."
Jesus gave a new command which is greater than the Decalogue: love one another as I have loved you (Jn 13:34).

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Which statement had never before been revealed. It was a new command of the New Covenant.

The Decalogue commanded "do no harm." It did not command "love."
Jesus gave a new command (Jn 13:34) that is greater than the Decalogue: love one another as I have loved you.

A new commandment does not delete

Jesus said: Mark 12:29 Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ [b]This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
Mat22: 37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

Scripture does not delete Scripture. Why the verse you quoted does not say on this new command deletes everything I ever commanded previously. Instead, Jesus said to live by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God, Mat4:4 instead of deleting it.

 

[Clare73]

A new commandment does not delete
Jesus said: Mark 12:29 Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ [b]This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

Mat22: 37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

Scripture does not delete Scripture.

NT Scripture transcends OT Scripture.

The sacrifices of the OT Scriptures are transcened by the sacrifice of the NT Scriptures rendering them obsolete, just as the Old Covenant is rendered obsolete (Heb 8:13) by the New Covenant (Eph 2:15).

 

[SabbathBlessings]

NT Scripture transcends OT Scripture.

The sacrifices of the OT Scriptures are transcened by the sacrifice of the NT Scripture, rendering them obsolete, just as the Old Covenant is rendered obsolete (Heb 8:13) by the New Covenant.

Still doesn't delete what Jesus said plainly.

God wrote a new covenant established on better promises Heb8:6 no Scripture says it is established on all brand new laws, you can't make something perfect Psa 19:7 more perfect. The law was never the issue it is holy just and good Rom7:12 why instead the location of the law changed from tables of stone to tablets of the heart 2Cor3:3 Heb8:10 if we cooperate Rom8:7-8 John14:15-18 God keeping His promise Psa89:34 Mat5:18-19

 

[Clare73]

Still doesn't delete what Jesus said plainly.

God wrote a new covenant established on better promises Heb8:6 no Scripture says it is established on all brand new laws,

Jesus called it "new" (Jn 13:34-35).

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Jesus called it "new" (Jn 13:34-35).

Addressed previously. New doesn't mean everything else He said is deleted. Love does not delete the commandments. Everything in the Bible hangs on love, loving God, loving neighbor. The Bible explains what this means as it is not a feeling but an act of obedience. 1 John 5:2-3 John14:15 Exo20:6 why Jesus said there are no greater commandments than loving God and loving our neighbor. These are not arbitrary things as shown in the OP that we each can make up what we think it means, its actually explained.

 

[Clare73]

Addressed previously. New doesn't mean everything else He said is deleted. Love does not delete the commandments.

Love necessarily fulfills the commandments (Ro 13:8). . .without even having to know them (Ro 13:10).
For love "necessarily 'does no harm', " it doesn't need the Decalogue. . .love doesn't need laws to tell it how to act.

It's not complicated, if you really love. . .and if you don't, observing the Decalgoue is nothing but legalism.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Love necessarily fulfills the commandments (Ro 13:8). . .without even knowing them (Ro 13:10).

Rom13:9 shows they are known. Perhaps why this verse was missed.

For love "necessarily 'does no harm', " it doesn't need commandments.

That would be depending on what we “feel” is right or wrong Jer 17:9 and depend our righteousness, not God’s. Psa 119:172 which is everlasting Psa 119:142.

 

[Clare73]

Rom13:9 shows they are known. Perhaps why this verse was missed.

That would be depending on what we “feel” is right or wrong Jer 17:9 and depend our righteousness, not God’s. Psa 119:172 which is everlasting Psa 119:142.

The heart of the born again knows what love is. . .it doesn't need rules to tell it how to love its neighbor, or God.

That's why in the NT, we have only two commands: love of God, love of neighbor.

I'm sure you'll understand if the focus of the born again is on Jesus' new command of the New Covenant: "love one another as I have loved you" (Jn 13:34), rather than on the obsolete Old Covenant (Heb 8:13) Decalogue: "do no harm."

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The heart of the born again knows what love is. . .it doesn't need rules to tell it how to love.

That's why in the NT, we have only two commands: love God, love neighbor.

The self-righteous does not need God’s righteousness Psa119:172 Psa119:142 Isa56:1-2. Everyone else does.

Why Paul depended God’s commandments to know what sin (unrighteousness) is, Rom7:7 because sinning against God is what separates us Isa 59:2 those who trust in God and depend on Him for what is right or wrong and ask His help in overcoming reconciles Rev 14:12 Rev22:14

God knows the wheat from the tares. He will sort it out at His soon return.

 

[Clare73]

The self-righteous does not need God’s righteousness Psa119:172 Psa119:142 Isa56:1-2. Everyone else does.
Why Paul depended God’s commandments to know what sin (unrighteousness) is, Rom7:7 because sinning against God is what separates us Isa 59:2 those who trust in God and depend on Him for what is right or wrong and ask His help in overcoming reconciles Rev 14:12 Rev22:14
God knows the wheat from the tares. He will sort it out at His soon return.

I'm sure you'll understand if the focus of the born again by the Holy Spirit of God is on Jesus' new command of the New Covenant: "love one another as I have loved you" (Jn 13:33-34), rather than on the obsolete Old Covenant (Heb 8:13) Decalogue: "do no harm."

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I'm sure you'll understand if the focus of the born again by the Holy Spirit of God is on Jesus' new command of the New Covenant: "love one another as I have loved you" (Jn 13:33-34), rather than on the obsolete Old Covenant (Heb 8:13) Decalogue: "do no harm."

You’re free to do whatever you wish.

However for me and my household, we will follow all of God’s teachings Mat4:4 as I am not familiar with the concept that one verse deletes another.

 

[Clare73]

You’re free to do whatever you wish.

And as the born again by the Holy Spirit of God, the focus will be on Jesus' new command of the New Covenant: "love one another as I have loved you" (Jn 13:33-34), rather than on the obsolete Old Covenant (Heb 8:13) Decalogue: "do no harm."

 

[SabbathBlessings]

And as the born again by the Holy Spirit of God, the focus will be on Jesus' new command of the New Covenant: "love one another as I have loved you" (Jn 13:33-34), rather than on the obsolete Old Covenant (Heb 8:13) Decalogue: "do no harm."

And ignore what Jesus said all Scripture hangs on including the new command and the commandments that there are no greater than Mat12:29-30 according to Jesus.

Seems, like the born-again would listen to all of His teachings and not just isolate one single verse, why the Bible is a big Book.

But I guess that is for Him to sort out, He said the wheat and tares grow up together only He knows whose what.

This is not a useful dicussion, so I am going to move on.

Be well.

 

[Clare73]

And ignore what Jesus said all Scripture hangs on including the new command and the commandments that there are greater that Jesus said.

Seems, like the born-again would listen to all of His teachings and not just on one single verse, but I guess that is for him to sort out.

One verse is all you need when God in Jesus gives
the New Covenant command: "love one another as I have loved you" (Jn 13:34), which
supersedes the obsolete Old Covenant (Heb 8:13) Decalogue: "do no harm," just as
the New Covenant sacrifice supersedes the Old Covenant sacrifices, and
the New Covenant High Priest supersedes the Old Covenant High Priests.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The New Covenant is established on better promises Heb8:6

God’s laws went from tables of stone to tablets of the heart.

2 Cor3:3 clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart.

Obviously the laws being spoken of is the Ten Commandments, the only laws written on stone and where did those laws go? It tells us plainly to tablets of flesh, of the heart.

Which is the New Covenant God promised writing His laws (plural) in our hearts Heb8:10 because we see plainly, the words of God’s laws didn't change just the location. Jer31:33 Heb8:10 established on better promises Heb8:6 of what He will do if we cooperate with Him John14:15-18 Heb8:10 Rom8:7-8

God keeping His promise not to alter the words of His covenant Psa 89:34 not a jot or tittle Mat5:18-19. Why its sin still to break these laws 1John3:4 breaking one we break them all James2:11-12

Jesus is our High Priest in the New Covenant and He put an end to animal sacrifices for sin as predicted Dan9:27 which is exactly what He did. Heb 10:1-10

Why anyone would think there is a new command that deletes the command to only worship God Exo20:3 or the commandment that tells us what God we should only worship Exo20:11 thats a sign of His Sanctification Eze20:12 a sign between God and His people Eze 20:20 I’ll never understand, but its not something we can find in our Bibles.

Why the Ten Commandments didn’t go anywhere in the New Covenant except the hearts and minds of His New Covenant believers, Jesus the Mediator of the New Covenant has His Testimony in His heavenly temple Rev 11:19 Rev 15:5 as it will be the standard of our judgement John 12:48 Exo20:1 Exo 31:18 Rev15:5 James 2:11-12 Rev22:14-15 Rev 11:18-19 where He plainly tells us who He shows mercy to Exo20:6. I will never understand why there is so much enmity against what God of the Universe wrote and God spoke so plainly, God tells us why Rom8:7-8 2 Tim 4:3-4 but it still doesn’t make sense to me considering everything Jesus did for us and asks for so little back John14:15.