Byfaithalone1
The gospel is Jesus Christ!
In my mind, "faith" is a part of "belonging."
In my mind, "doing" relates to concepts such as "law."
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Rom 3:20
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. KJV
Rom 5:1
1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: KJV
Heb 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him:KJV
Rom 14:23
for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. KJV
For:
Rom 10:17
faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. KJV
Joe
Sounds like something I would write.I submit that our beauty flows less from being and more from belonging.
I love my children in spite of many things they do and because of whose they are.
Perhaps we are describing different attributes of the same elephant.
BFA
I don't necessarily connect "doing" with the law - so I'm using the word more generally. As in "all acting."In my mind, "faith" is a part of "belonging."
In my mind, "doing" relates to concepts such as "law."
BFA
Well said, AzA.And yet the distinction between being and belonging breaks down because the ultimate argument is that you cease to be if you don't belong.
Yeah...Sorry about the cheap shot, that was kind of harsh...
The only way our lives are pleasing to God is when have been washed in the blood of Christ and we have faith in him for salvation.k4c said:We all have sinned, this is true. But we do have moments in our lives that are pleasing to God.
Only by the Holy Spirit living in us producing HIS fruit and HIS good works. It is ALL HIS power, not our own, from start to finish, the Author and Finisher of our faith. Fallen humanity doesn't 'do what is right.' We never have and won't until the corruptible puts on the incorruptible on the day when Christ comes to make all things right. This is why we can ONLY be saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone, plus nothing. It is NOT of ourselves. It is a GIFT from God. We can't add ANYTHING to HIS gift.k4c said:We can do what is right in God's eyes but it's not a means to eternal life.
We don't have any righteousness. Christ IS our righteousness. Believe in HIM.k4c said:Ezekiel 33-18-19 "When the righteous turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, he shall die because of it. "But when the wicked turns from his wickedness and does what is lawful and right, he shall live because of it.
Yeah...
The only way our lives are pleasing to God is when have been washed in the blood of Christ and we have faith in him for salvation.
Only by the Holy Spirit living in us producing HIS fruit and HIS good works. It is ALL HIS power, not our own, from start to finish, the Author and Finisher of our faith. Fallen humanity doesn't 'do what is right.' We never have and won't until the corruptible puts on the incorruptible on the day when Christ comes to make all things right. This is why we can ONLY be saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone, plus nothing. It is NOT of ourselves. It is a GIFT from God. We can't add ANYTHING to HIS gift.
We don't have any righteousness. Christ IS our righteousness. Believe in HIM.
In Christ alone...
I have no righteousness except that Christ is my righteousness. Claiming to have your own righteousness is called self-righteousness.We do have a righteousness act of our own the difference is that God does not accept our righteousness. For example, two people serving in a soup kitchen, both doing the same exact thing but only one is acceptable to God.
I have no righteousness except that Christ is my righteousness. Claiming to have your own righteousness is called self-righteousness.
Two people serving in a soup kitchen, both doing the same exact thing. Both are lost unless Christ is their righteousness.
In Christ alone...
And yet the distinction between being and belonging breaks down because the ultimate argument is that you cease to be if you don't belong.
You go to hell. Or hell consumes you. Or God withdraws from you, or you withdraw from God -- however they're describing it these days. Then poof, that's it for you. It's certainly nice to talk about being and feeling a part -- belonging -- as if it were disconnected from being. But there's no way to dissociate them without forgetting that we only exist at all because we are connected. We're not self-existant or self-sustaining.
As you said, if you have being you have belonging.
You won't address the whole passages of scripture I've posted. And I have NO problem with the verses you've plucked from all over the place and strung together to make the Bible say what it does not, but ONLY when they are used in the context they were written.We're both saying the same thing but we just can't say it without understanding the other verses such as,
Luke 1:6 Zacharias and his wife Elizabeth were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
If we don't explain these verses people get confused when they read the Bible for themselves.
You won't address the whole passages of scripture I've posted. And I have NO problem with the verses you've plucked from all over the place and strung together to make the Bible say what it does not, but ONLY when they are used in the context they were written.
We are NOT saying the same thing.
In Christ alone...
Does that mean you refuse to address the passages of scriptures that have been presented?I guess it's time for us to move on...have a blessed day.
Does that mean you refuse to address the passages of scriptures that have been presented?
In Christ alone...
No sir. You did not address the passages. And even the letters that bring death speak against 'bearing false witness.'One of Satan's ploys is to say what you just said when you know I addressed them, you just didn't like what you heard. So we will have to part ways here...have a blessed day.
This is a line you like to resort to often when another member of the forum has noted that you haven't responded in character to a post addressed to you. Invoking satan as your appeal loses its meaning when you're having trouble differentiating between God's Gospel of redemption and "another gospel" that is accursed, inspired from another source.One of Satan's ploys is to say what you just said when you know I addressed them, you just didn't like what you heard.
The mechanism of avoidance was how you abandoned another thread, and have never addressed my response asking you will you reject the Bible as Ellen testified she did for 50 years?Repent and turn from promoting a godless system of false worship based on the commandments of men for God says your worship is worthless.
Please point out my 'comment that was a cheap shots (sic).' Thanks.And you don't think your comment was a cheap shots?
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