umm.... but you did reply![]()
No, ...a reply would be addressing what was said... and what was said was NONSENSE unworthy of a reply...

PEACE...

..willieH

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umm.... but you did reply![]()



To anyone except "gradyll"... which has EARS to HEAR...
Wow! gradyll employs the deeply intellectual and spiritual, "I know you are but what am I?" method here, eh?
(1) listen to this guy?When has gradyll admitted AT ANY TIME, that he was wrong?
About ANYTHING?
I do not seek "right or wrong", nor do I identify another as "right or wrong"...
I SEEK TRUTH... and REVELATION of that which GOD has for me to KNOW within my course, ...and to SHARE that information which.. as I see it MUST coincide with the premises of LOVE, REASON, and VICTORY...
Said information which contains these 3... will ALWAYS exalt YHVH God and His Son... Unfortunately, the MANY which claim to be followers of CHRIST -- Matt 5:22-23 -- Matt 24:5 -- will be teaching doctrine to the WORLD that GOD so (UNCHANGINGLY) LOVES, ...that which is comprised of OTHER than these THREE... Actively DECIEVING those to whom they preach.
(2) Instead of reaching out the hand of fellowship, this guy has IGNORED me and my words... Mostly because he really has no beliefs or understanding of his own which has been gained by PERSONAL fellowship with the MOST HIGH..-- Jer 29:14 -- It is a PERSONAL thing... and only those who PERSONALLY DEDICATE themselves to GOD, shall FIND Him...
MOST will find and embrace, ...the TRADITIONS of MEN, being too LAZY and UNDEDICATED to YHVH.
(3) Then gradyll has the audacity to complain that I don't have LOVE for him, when I have:
(a) NAMED him a ''SON of the MOST HIGH"? And,
(b) have noted I pray for him! And,
(c) have apologized to him on one occasion (which was ignored). And (d) have wished him the PEACE of God in each of my answers?
When has gradyll done ANY of these things toward me? (oh yeah, he wished me PEACE, ...an AMAZING and UNDERWHELMING... ONE TIME...)
(4) As far as naming gradyll a "ding dong", I calls'em as I see's'em... I mean no harm to this man... He and I have never met, so why should I be on an agenda to bring harm to him?
gradyll is busily naming others which are SEEKING God as "CULTS"... without ANY AUTHORITY to NAME CALL these people which are EVERY BIT as sincere, as gradyll considers himself...
(5) This man has also alluded to ME being RACIAL... when I have FIVE people in my IMMEDIATE FAMILY (4 Grandchildren, and son-in-law) that are BLACK...
Not only that, but, ...TWO of my BEST friends EVER are MEXICAN... I support 2 BLACK children which I have never met! I was raised in East Los Angeles, the literal MELTING POT of the RACES, in which my childhood friends were MORE of other RACES than my own... Some "racist"...
Gradyll is just a child, with NO BIBLICAL KNOWLEDGE of his own, whining continually as he brings against me, EXACTLY what HE does himself... So blind he cannot see his own HYPOCRITICAL state.
Recently He called my usage of "14 laughing smilies" =(total in TWO different posts), ...as RUDE, and indeed did himself, the very same thing to ME!
I guess because he only used "13 laughing smilies" (total in ONE POST)... I guess he was ONE "under the standard" of "RUDENESS"? Please! ...A HYPOCRITE of the highest order...
He COPIES this verse from wherever, but does not READ, nor apply it to himself...
Seeking to DEMEAN instead of HELP a brother which "he percieves" is in error. (more of this brand of HYPOCRISY to come)
No LOVE has come forth from gradyll toward me...
In fact, he is so OUT OF TOUCH with the premise of LOVE, that he even named to another (gossiping) that the CANCER which I am (3yrs) battling, is that which "I use" as an EXCUSE!...can he be more in the dark? Somebody PLEASE lend him some light, as he will not listen to it from me!
Can gradyll be more disattached to the TRUE premise of LOVE, as well as be ANY MORE INDIFFERENT (which is the opposite of LOVE) than IS this misguided young man?
He quotes the WORD in vain, for he does not KNOW WHY the WORD exists, nor does he PRACTICE what he preaches toward others.
Here is another example of the MISUSE of the WORD, devoid from ANY semblance that can be called the GOSPEL:
Listen to this VENGENT and UNLOVING person! Seeking MY DESTRUCTION instead of showing me the "turn the other cheek" example, ABSENT in his own contention.
gradyll IS, what he IS......and what he IS, is a HYPOCRITE:
JESUS called the RELIGIOUS ONES (like the HYPOCRITE gradyll) which PROMOTED the TRADITIONS of MEN ...FOOLS (his own beliefs by his own admission being of the TRADITIONAL variety, which he COPIES from the "dallas the-ILLOGICAL cemetary") -- Matt 23:13-33
Failing to see the SCRIPTURES are not They which are to be USED as a WEAPON of DESTRUCTION... rather ...They are the DIVINE LETTER of LOVE, from the GOD which IS LOVE -- 1 John 4:8 -- which LOVES ALL men and is about the SAVING of ALL...
I am come in the NAME of CHRIST... and I DO as He DID... That gradyll complains of his SHAMEFULNESS being exposed, is not my problem...
Most TRADITIONAL people (Matt 15:6) are WITHOUT a "sense of humor", STIFF-NECKED... thinking themselves as "Holy"... and in that deception falling SHORT of KNOWING the LOVE of CHRIST -- Eph 3:19 --
Which is extended TO ALL PEOPLE -- 1 Tim 2:6 -- Luke 2:10 -- and which, in their DECIEVED hearts -- Jer 17:9 -- will NOT be KNOWN BY HIM -- Matt 7:22-23 -- instead, REJECTED by Him...
To be pitied and prayed for...
PEACE unto all which SEEK YHVH and His Son JESUS --
...willieH![]()
Give it up..... you are only encouraging him.I calls em as I sees them too, unloving in the highest order.
So am I demon possessed too, because I am angry?
You said that when the demons went into a herd of pigs that is was anger, not possession. So am I possessed too, now that I am angry at your lack of love toward others on this forum?
Give it up..... you are only encouraging him.
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In 1998 the pope said that hell is a mental state of mind...
... which does seem possible, and place where faith in religion could save nyou from...
thats funny the catholic encyclopedia states that Hell is real and anything BUT a state of mind...
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Hell
The pope is fallible?
The destruction is everlasting because the one who is destroyed remains destroyed forever.lets try a smaller nugget of truth:
regarding 2 THESSALONIANS 1:9
Destruction does not mean annihilation ..., otherwise it would not be everlasting destruction. Annihilation only takes an instant, and it is over. If someone undergoes everlasting destruction, then they have to have everlasting existence."
from:
Geisler, Norman L. ; Howe, Thomas A.: When Critics Ask : A Popular Handbook on Bible Difficulties. Wheaton, Ill. : Victor Books, 1992, S. 493
Norman Geisler has a B.A, M.A., Th.B., and Ph.D (in philosophy). He has taught at some of the top Seminaries in the United States, including Trinity Evangelical and Dallas Seminary and currently he is Distinguished Professor of Apologetics at Veritas Evangelical Seminary in Murrieta, CA (Veritas Evangelical Seminary).
authored over 70 books and hundreds of articles here:
Dr. Norman Geisler
The destruction is everlasting because the one who is destroyed remains destroyed forever.
Are you sure that you want to continue the debate? This attempt seemed a little half-hearted.
(Timothew has a B.S. and has read over 70 books and articles.)
I used to believe that hell was a fiery place of everlasting torment. When I was a kid that is, and before I got a concordance and before I learned how to read the Bible.
It is just a matter of maturity.

I calls em as I sees them too, unloving in the highest order.
So am I demon possessed too, because I am angry?
You said that when the demons went into a herd of pigs that is was anger, not possession. So am I possessed too, now that I am angry at your lack of love toward others on this forum?



I just pray those that don't believe in an everlasting Hell don't end up there because they did not fear God's wrath.funny, I believe maturity is taking the word of God literally and at face value. Thats the first line of hermeneutical study. If God wanted to speak in riddles He could have, but He didn't.
funny, I believe maturity is taking the word of God literally and at face value. Thats the first line of hermeneutical study. If God wanted to speak in riddles He could have, but He didn't.
Lol, there's your problem then. It's called "parables" though, not "riddles". And that is the ONLY way He spoke;
(Mat 13:34) All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
If parables are about the kingdom of heaven, then hell is part of that kingdom if it is a parable. If hell is a part of the kingdom of heaven then that makes it harder to say those who don't go to "heaven" are annihilated because that would no longer be completely true.parables were only spoken to the multitude not to the disciples. The disciples were given the interpretations to the parables, thus nullifying their effect to hide truth. Hear the word of God concerning this matter...
Matthew 13:10-11 NKJV
10 And the disciples came and said to Him, Why do You speak to them in parables?
11 He answered and said to them, Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.