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Lake Suigetsu, the Flood and Objects of Known Age

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If you are not a YEC, why should you sweat?
Of course I am a YEC! They rule. But when one realizes that the patterns in isotopes were not made in this present state, and therefore by the decay and etc we know, they fade into insignificance! How sweet it is!
 
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Of course I am a YEC! They rule. But when one realizes that the patterns in isotopes were not made in this present state, and therefore by the decay and etc we know, they fade into insignificance! How sweet it is!
Can't count over 6,000?

You have no evidence for any "different state", so I can dismiss it without any further justification.
 
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Can't count over 6,000?
I do not assume that a layer took a year or season as it may now do! That is pure present state reckoning, it can't take you back in real time. Much like a tree ring. If a tree could grow in a month or even a few weeks, then a ring would not equate to a year by any stretch of the imagination.

You have NO evidence for a same state past. It is dismissed.
 
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I do not assume that a layer took a year or season as it may now do! That is pure present state reckoning, it can't take you back in real time.

You have no evidence for any "different state", so I can dismiss it without any further justification.
 
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You have no evidence for any "different state", so I can dismiss it without any further justification.
No can do! It is bible 101 and it ain't dismissable. Learn your abilities and limits. You NEED a present state to make all your godless evo hocus pocus look like it it is in focus!
 
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No can do! It is bible 101 and it ain't dismissable. Learn your abilities and limits. You NEED a present state to make all your godless evo hocus pocus look like it it is in focus!
As I said, no evidence. Just your assertions.

Dismissed.
 
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As I said, no evidence. Just your assertions.

Dismissed.
It is bible 101 and it ain't dismissable. Learn your abilities and limits. You NEED a present state to make all your godless evo hocus pocus look like it it is in focus!


No evidence for your claimed state, and belief just is not enough. Especially when it flies in the face of God.
 
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It is bible 101 and it ain't dismissable. Learn your abilities and limits. You NEED a present state to make all your godless evo hocus pocus look like it it is in focus!


No evidence for your claimed state, and belief just is not enough. Especially when it flies in the face of God.
Yet another God-ventriloquist. I can see your lips moving.
 
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No can do! It is bible 101 and it ain't dismissable. Learn your abilities and limits. You NEED a present state to make all your godless evo hocus pocus look like it it is in focus!
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I'm used to dad's lunacy from another site. If we don't know what the state of the universe was one millisecond ago, we cannot know anything. His belief system requires him to self-lobotomize. It is therefore self-defeating.
 
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I'm used to dad's lunacy from another site. If we don't know what the state of the universe was one millisecond ago, we cannot know anything. His belief system requires him to self-lobotomize. It is therefore self-defeating.
Are you telling me, Barry, that you cannot (that's cannot) read Genesis 1 and see a different state past documented?
 
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Are you telling me, Barry, that you cannot (that's cannot) read Genesis 1 and see a different state past documented?
If Genesis was written in a different state past, how can we possibly know what the words mean?

They could be telling us that Lake Suigetsu's varves were laid down, on average, ten times in every year, because each year had ten springs, but they could equally be telling us that the Flying Spaghetti Monster faked all the evidence, inguding the varves and faked Genesis, last Thursday. But I can't see any support for either in my reading of Genesis.

Parsimony. Okcham's razor. Newton's principle. "Do not multiply entities unnecessarily". IOW, do not add complications for which there is no evidence, and no need. The people who penned scripture lived in the same world that we live in, but they had very limited knowledge, and they got things wrong.
 
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The people who penned scripture lived in the same world that we live in, but they had very limited knowledge, and they got things wrong.
So did they write about a different state past, or didn't they?

Once again: Are you telling me you don't see a different state past documented in Genesis 1?
 
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So did they write about a different state past, or didn't they?

Once again: Are you telling me you don't see a different state past documented in Genesis 1?
I see a different view of the world, but not a different world.

Where is the verse that says there were ten springs every year?
 
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So did they write about a different state past, or didn't they?

Once again: Are you telling me you don't see a different state past documented in Genesis 1?
I see a different view of the world, but not a different world.

Where is the verse that says there were ten springs every year?
Barry, hang up the Arab phone and listen to me, please.

For the third time: Are you telling me you do not see a different state past -- (not a "different view of the world") -- documented in Genesis 1?
 
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Barry, hang up the Arab phone and listen to me, please.

For the third time: Are you telling me you do not see a different state past -- (not a "different view of the world") -- documented in Genesis 1?

Get someone to read my last response out to you.

Slowly.

Tell them to explain each of the words you can't understand.

And don't forget my question, "Where is the verse that says there were ten springs every year?"
 
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