Kylie's Pluto Challenge

[AV1611VET]

With respect to the Bible. I am not saying that Jesus if he existed would have approved of the behavior but there were MANY people in the past who thought God gave them permission, even wanted them to kill off those whom they disagreed with.

I'm asking you, if you think they did it with respect to the Bible, or in spite of It?

Was their interpretation wrong?

And for the record, as much as you guys claim there were more than just 66 books of the Bible, and as much as you guys like to use Wrong's Concordance to make the Bible say what you guys want It to say, I'm surprised you guys aren't calling us to march off on a crusade too.

Or maybe you guys are giving us a break, since you guys think we should be out hunting [spiritual] witches?

Unless, of course, your opinion is that the Crusades were done in spite of the Bible.

Then it's different.

 

[AV1611VET]

How so?

Dead children everywhere.

Burned out of their homes with saline and sent to the furnaces.

You've heard of Molech, haven't you?

Well ... he's alive and well today.

And his disciples are performing the Molech procedure without conscience.

Abortion and the Ancient Practice of Child Sacrifice

 

[HitchSlap]

Dead children everywhere.

Burned out of their homes with saline and sent to the furnaces.

You've heard of Molech, haven't you?

Well ... he's alive and well today.

And why do you have such a problem with these "dead children?"

 

[AV1611VET]

And why do you have such a problem with these "dead children?"

Because I don't think like a scientist.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Because I don't think like a scientist.

Again: You have a strange and twisted view on the way the world works.

 

[AV1611VET]

Again: You have a strange and twisted view on the way the world works.

I believe DNA was straight at one time.

When the Fall occurred, God simply gave it a twist and bingo!

We live in a twisted world.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I believe DNA was straight at one time.

When the Fall occurred, God simply gave it a twist and bingo!

We live in a twisted world.

No, you're view of the world is twisted. The world is not. It's just your view.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, you're view of the world is twisted. The world is not. It's just your view.

One has to have very twisted beliefs to believe that "DNA was straight" and other such ideas.

 

[HitchSlap]

Because I don't think like a scientist.

Think how you like, what I'm asking is why do you have such a problem with abortions.

 

[AV1611VET]

One has to have very twisted beliefs to believe that "DNA was straight" and other such ideas.

You want a really weird one?

I hesitate to post this on a public forum.

But seeing as I have done it before, I may as well.

And if I lose respect (or my job) because of it ... so be it.

Spoiler: Proceed with Caution

Jesus walked on water.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You want a really weird one?

I hesitate to post this on a public forum.

But seeing as I have done it before, I may as well.

And if I lose respect (or my job) because of it ... so be it.

Spoiler: Proceed with Caution

Jesus walked on water.

No, that's not a twisted view. That's buying literally in to an allegorical story. A twisted view is the view that you have on abortion.

 

[AV1611VET]

Think how you like, what I'm asking is why do you have such a problem with abortions.

I don't.

I've never done one.

I'm sure it's as easy as turning a page in a science book for some.

But not for me.

 

[HitchSlap]

I don't.

I've never done one.

I'm sure it's as easy as turning a page in a science book for some.

But not me.

So you don't have a problem with abortion?

 

[AV1611VET]

No, that's not a twisted view. That's buying literally in to an allegorical story. A twisted view is the view that you have on abortion.

You mean my belief that abortion is murder?

 

[AV1611VET]

So you don't have a problem with abortion?

Abortion is murder.

So yes, I have a problem with abortion.

 

[aachen_hexagon]

I'm asking you, if you think they did it with respect to the Bible, or in spite of It?

I thought I answered that quite clearly. QUITE CLEARLY. I don't believe the Bible is necessarily true and I don't believe in God so I'm telling you, explicitly that I think there were thousands upon thousands of well-meaning Christians throughout history who honestly and earnestly believed that God was OK with them slaughtering infidels.

Was their interpretation wrong?

What do you mean "wrong"? The Bible isn't always right and clearly people interpret it in vastly different ways. The same is true of all religions. There are muslims who think the 9/11 attackers were immensely evil because they violate Islam.

Or maybe you guys are giving us a break, since you guys think we should be out hunting [spiritual] witches?

The bible does indeed tell you that a witch should not be suffered to live. But I think we are all glad that most Christians don't follow that rule anymore. Most of us in the world are very happy most of you aren't fundamentalists. Regardless of what the literal word tells you.

Unless, of course, your opinion is that the Crusades were done in spite of the Bible.

I have little doubt there were people who used Crusading as a political tool rather disingenuously, but I don't believe that is everyone who took part. I think there were many CHristians who thought the Crusades made good sense theologically. Just like I believe the good folks of Wurzburg actually believed they were killing honest-to-goodness evil witches when they torched or hung hundreds of them. And I think there were honest Christians in the Deep South who thought the BIble was OK with owning slaves. It certainly did little to dispel that belief and can be read in parts to support that. As it can be read and interpretted to deny that belief.

You may have your preferred reading of the BIble but that doesn't mean it's the only one. You can thank history for this important lesson.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You mean my belief that abortion is murder?

But before you said that you don't have a problem with abortion.

 

[aachen_hexagon]

Because I don't think like a scientist.

Do all scientists relish dead children? Just curious.

 

[aachen_hexagon]

I believe DNA was straight at one time.

When the Fall occurred, God simply gave it a twist and bingo!

We live in a twisted world.

Do you know how bond angles work in organic chemicals?

 

[HitchSlap]

Abortion is murder.

So yes, I have a problem with abortion.

Why?