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Discussion in 'General Theology' started by from scratch, Mar 4, 2011.

  1. from scratch

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    Today at lunch I was told the end of the world will be May 21, 2011.[​IMG][​IMG]What do you make of this hysteria promoted by Harold Camping? I was told it was all over the inter net. Apparently not because I had to make a second effort to find it. It is also being published in the Huffington Post. I see it hadn't made it to the Eschatology board. I don't have much respect for Harold Camping either. I think that it is promoting paranoia.
     
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  2. Mr Dave

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    I'll make sure I'm out that day :p
     
  3. Harry3142

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    No one knows when the world will end, but that hasn't prevented some from making claims for the date, only to have those claims 'fall flat' when that date came and went with nothing extraordinary having happened.

    I like the answer an old farmer gave his wife when she told him that God was detroying the world (she had just turned on the radio and caught the Orson Welles broadcast of The War of the Worlds after it had already begun). His reply to her was,

    "Well, it's his'n, ain't it?"

    Amen to that.
     
  4. MrPolo

    MrPolo Woe those who call evil good + good evil. Is 5:20

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    Is he the guy who when asked if he would therefore give all his money to charity before the date refused to do it??
     
  5. from scratch

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    That's why I put in[​IMG][​IMG]
     
  6. LittleLambofJesus

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    Interesting. That seems to be a popular topic on CF now :)

    http://www.christianforums.com/t7525510-4/#post56483563
    May 21st, 2011

    May 21, 2011 - Noah Knew, WeCanKnow! Christ's Return on Judgment Day: May 21, 2011

    So, fellow heretics, after the rapture on May 21st, 2011, what're you gonna do with all that free real-estate?


    http://www.christianforums.com/t7526402-4/#post56508958
    Noah's Flood...Our Example of Today!

    If that example is applicable today, and I believe it is....the waters of deception, which have been here since the garden, remain on the earth today and on Lyar 17 (the Hebrew 2nd month, 17th day)...which this year will be...May 21, 2011....the great tribulation begins for us as it did in Noah's time.
     
  7. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus PESKY DEVIL! GIT! l SAID GIT! Supporter

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  8. Mr Dave

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    Surely I'll be able to find at least one Anglican priest left who'd become Archbishop of Canterbury by default who will then proclaim me King :clap: Buckingham Palace is mine. I'll give you some titles if you want LLOJ, what'd you prefer Duke, Earl, Lord, Baron, Marquis?



    But really, why do people come up with dates like this? If it's something not even the Son knows, only the Father, isn't it a bit presumptive to claim to have knowledge reserved for only one person of the Holy Trinity.
     
  9. LittleLambofJesus

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    Just make sure ya put it in writing bro :thumbsup:

    Hebrews 9:16 For where the a covenant/testament, death a necessity to be bringing of the covenanted-one/testator
    17 For a covenant/testament upon dead-ones is confirmed, since not then is strenghth when is living the convenanted-one/testator.

    A Rapture codicil for Last Will and Testament « Heaven Awaits

    For a long time, I enjoyed thinking about the Rapture, and if it were true, and when it might happen, if true. But I had never put too much thought into what would happened to those left behind to people I cared about, if there was a rapture and I was in it.
    So what I am doing now is updating my Last Will and Testament, and including a codicil to the Will which addresses the Rapture. Most wills being executed are based on a person’s death, not their disappearance.
     
  10. Frogster

    Frogster Galatians is the best!

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    I think he already made a prediction like that, years ago, and was wrong.
     
  11. NumberOneSon

    NumberOneSon The poster formerly known as Acts6:5

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    Nah, it's been mentioned a couple times on the Eschatology board already....the threads have just been buried.

    In Christ,

    Acts6:5
     
  12. Standing Up

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    I'll check CF to see who's still here the next day.

    Wait a minute :doh:
     
  13. from scratch

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    I think it was 1994. Wonder if he got his math correct this time.
     
  14. from scratch

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    Dat a gud un!
     
  15. from scratch

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    ah the guy at lunch made it sound like the talk of the day as in everywhere and I expected to find a hot discussion on page one.
     
  16. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus PESKY DEVIL! GIT! l SAID GIT! Supporter

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    Don't know if I will still be around to see this prophecy fulfilled :D :p

    http://www.christianforums.com/t7525115/

    Originally Posted by Jazer [​IMG] If you like signs the Apophis is on Friday, April 13 of 2029.
    That also happens to be 2000 years from the day of Pentacost. So that will be the 2000 year birthday party for the Church (Church Age).
     
  17. Heavens

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    Failed doomsday prophecies. They are always a gas.

    With the upcoming disaster film "2012" and the current hype about Mayan calendars and doomsday predictions, it seems like a good time to put such notions in context.

    Most prophets of doom come from a religious perspective of “futurism”, though the secular crowd has caused its share of scares as well. One thing the doomsday scenarios tend to share in common: They don't come to pass.

    Here are 10 that didn't pan out, so far:

    The Prophet Hen of Leeds, 1806

    History has countless examples of people who have proclaimed that the return of Jesus Christ is imminent, but perhaps there has never been a stranger messenger than a hen in the English town of Leeds in 1806. It seems that a hen began laying eggs on which the phrase "Christ is coming" was written. As news of this miracle spread, many people became convinced that doomsday was at hand - until a curious local actually watched the hen laying one of the prophetic eggs and discovered someone had hatched a hoax.

    The Millerites, April 23, 1843

    A New England farmer named William Miller, after several years of very careful study of his Bible, concluded that God's chosen time to destroy the world could be divined from a strict literal interpretation of scripture. As he explained to anyone who would listen, the world would end some time between March 21, 1843 and March 21, 1844. He preached and published enough to eventually lead thousands of followers (known as Millerites) who decided that the actual date was April 23, 1843. Many sold or gave away their possessions, assuming they would not be needed; though when April 23 arrived (but Jesus didn't) the group eventually disbanded-some of them forming what is now the Seventh Day Adventists.

    Mormon Armageddon, 1891 or earlier

    Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon church, called a meeting of his church leaders in February 1835 to tell them that he had spoken to God recently, and during their conversation he learned that Jesus would return within the next 56 years, after which the End Times would begin promptly.

    Halley's Comet, 1910

    In 1881, an astronomer discovered through spectral analysis that comet tails include a deadly gas called cyanogen (related, as the name imples, to cyanide). This was of only passing interest until someone realized that Earth would pass through the tail of Halley's comet in 1910. Would everyone on the planet be bathed in deadly toxic gas? That was the speculation reprinted on the front pages of "The New York Times" and other newspapers, resulting in a widespread panic across the United States and abroad. Finally even-headed scientists explained that there was nothing to fear.

    Pat Robertson, 1982

    In May 1980, televangelist and Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson startled and alarmed many when - contrary to Matthew 24:36 ("No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven...") he informed his "700 Club" TV show audience around the world that he knew when the world would end. "I guarantee you by the end of 1982 there is going to be a judgment on the world," Robertson said.

    Heaven's Gate, 1997

    When comet Hale-Bopp appeared in 1997, rumors surfaced that an alien spacecraft was following the comet - covered up, of course, by NASA and the astronomical community. Though the claim was refuted by astronomers (and could be refuted by anyone with a good telescope), the rumors were publicized on Art Bell's paranormal radio talk show "Coast to Coast AM." These claims inspired a San Diego UFO cult named Heaven's Gate to conclude that the world would end soon. The world did indeed end for 39 of the cult members, who committed suicide on March 26, 1997.

    Nostradamus, August 1999

    The heavily obfuscated and metaphorical writings of Michel de Nostrdame have intrigued people for over 400 years. His writings, the accuracy of which relies heavily upon very flexible interpretations, have been translated and re-translated in dozens of different versions. One of the most famous quatrains read, "The year 1999, seventh month / From the sky will come great king of terror." Many Nostradamus devotees grew concerned that this was the famed prognosticator's vision of Armageddon.

    Y2K, Jan. 1, 2000

    As the last century drew to a close, many people grew concerned that computers might bring about doomsday. The problem, first noted in the early 1970s, was that many computers would not be able to tell the difference between 2000 and 1900 dates. No one was really sure what that would do, but many suggested catastrophic problems ranging from vast blackouts to nuclear holocaust. Gun sales jumped and survivalists prepared to live in bunkers, but the new millennium began with only a few glitches.

    May 5, 2000

    In case the Y2K bug didn't do us in, global catastrophe was assured by Richard Noone, author of the 1997 book "5/5/2000 Ice: the Ultimate Disaster." According to Noone, the Antarctic ice mass would be three miles thick by May 5, 2000 - a date in which the planets would be aligned in the heavens, somehow resulting in a global icy death (or at least a lot of book sales).

    God's Church Ministry, Fall 2008

    According to God's Church minister Ronald Weinland, the end times are upon us-- again. His 2006 book "2008: God's Final Witness" states that hundreds of millions of people will die, and by the end of 2006, "there will be a maximum time of two years remaining before the world will be plunged into the worst time of all human history. By the fall of 2008, the United States will have collapsed as a world power, and no longer exist as an independent nation." As the book notes, "Ronald Weinland places his reputation on the line as The end time prophet of God."

    My advice, run far far away from the religious eschatology people who predict that the future contains some world wide apocalyptic advent such as the false prophets above;

    Don't even think about tomorrow Jesus said;

    (Mat 6:33)But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
    (Mat 6:34)Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the dayisthe evil thereof.

    Here's the ONLY true end time prophecy that I believe in...

    (1Jn 3:2) Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.


    And that will be ONLY when this flesh and blood body quits breathing. I can't hardly wait!
    :)
     
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  18. CryptoLutheran

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    More than just predictions, Camping has an entire "Bible math" system which turns just about everything in the Bible into numerical codes by which he does all of his predictions. Camping also teaches that all churches are apostate and Christians need to leave all of them and just read the Bible on their own (with the help of Camping's radio program, of course); he also claims that all of these special codes in the Bible were unknown to earlier generations because it was not the right time yet, but now that it is all these codes can be seen (and we know that it's the right time near the end because we can see all these codes now, so enjoy the circular reasoning here).

    The whole thing is a pile of mongoose droppings, but why let silly things like truth and facts get in the way of a good doomsday prediction.

    After Camping's prediction fails, it won't stop him or his most loyal followers, another one will be ready.

    Say what you will about William Miller, but at least when his predictions failed the first couple times he gave up on the prediction business.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  19. LittleLambofJesus

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    :)
    My bro Acts 6:5 thinks so also ;)

    Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
    Strong's Number G4394 matches the Greek προφητεία (prophēteia), which occurs 19 times in 19 verses in the Greek concordance of the KJV

    Young) 1 Corinthians 13:8 The love doth never fail; and whether [there be] prophecies/profhteiai <4394>, they shall become useless; whether tongues, they shall cease; whether knowledge, it shall become useless;

    http://www.christianforums.com/t7524325/
    Prophecies/Predictions for 2010: Results

     
  20. I thought the world was suppose to end sometime in December 2012?! :scratch:

    Shoot! I guess I had better cancel my summer vacation plans then. :doh: :sorry: :D
     
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