Just a quick question for law proponents.

[LittleLambofJesus]

Ah I thought they were being circumcised to become Jews. Imagine that is a reason the tax payer is doing this.

Good point

 

[Frogster]

Abiding in God overcomes the wrold.

i don't know where that wrold is?

oh, world...gotcha...

joke, i am the worst typer here..

 

[Frogster]

Exactly... the verses you have brought out here, clearly point out that part of the believing is in the redemption process that He out lines that is how sin is dealt with, and if you are not part of the process of being redeemed you wil be dying in your sins.

but you don't think the new cov began yet.

 

[brinny]

Circumcision threads are fun

http://www.christianforums.com/t7576320-8/#post57998897

Originally Posted by Dan the Man Do you honestly think that whether or not your tally-whacker is trimmed has anything to do with anything???

LOL!

 

[brinny]

We are in the world, but not of the world

NKJV) John 8:23 And He said to them, "You are from beneath; I am from above.
You are of this world; I am not of this world.
24 I said then to ye, 'that ye shall be dying in the sins of ye,' for if-ever no ye should be believing that I am, ye shall be dying in the sins of ye.'
[Deuteronomy 28:13]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7465773/#post54690430
quick question

Amen.

 

[tzadik]

you're wrong, because the usage is clear, under law, one is under the power of the law, sorry bro, under law is more than just what you think.Yes, condemnation alos, gee, what a wonderful life under law!


Romans 6 is all about mastery, the sinful nature etc, and UNDER LAW, sin will have dominion.


6;14For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.

So what you're saying is that everyone who is keeping the commandments of G-d are not under grace? (and therefore not saved?)

 

[from scratch]

I agree. So when you see "Abraham believed and it was imputed unto him for righteousness". Do you see that "impution" as salvation or something else?

What are you talking about? Righteousness outside of the law. Amazing! Then the law never served any purpose. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness. Rom 10:4 Why then is the law promoted as a requirement? Inquiring minds wish to know.

 

[Frogster]

To be reconciled to God is a process, not a statement to nod your head at.

sorry, it was done instantly on the cross, read rom 5, after we have been past tense reconciled, we NOW have peace with God.

read col 2;20-22, he sees us as Holy!

Read Heb 9;28, he aaiiiiiinnnntttt coming back to deal with sin, for believers.

Rest in the finished work of the cross, sis..

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

i don't know where that wrold is?

oh, world...gotcha...

joke, i am the worst typer here..

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number H8398 matches the Hebrew תֵּבֵל (tebel), which occurs 36 times in 36 verses in the Hebrew concordance of the KJV

8398 tebel tay-bale' from 2986; the earth (as moist and therefore inhabited); by extension, the globe; by implication, its inhabitants; specifically, a partic. land, as Babylonia, Palestine:--habitable part, world.

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number G2889 matches the Greek κόσμος (kosmos), which occurs 187 times in 152 verses in the Greek concordance of the KJV

2889. kosmos kos'-mos probably from the base of 2865; orderly arrangement, i.e. decoration; by implication, the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively (morally)):--adorning, world.

Last time used in Bible:

NKJV) Revelation 17:8 "The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition.
And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

 

[someguy14]

i don't know where that wrold is?

oh, world...gotcha...

joke, i am the worst typer here..

woops

 

[Frogster]

Circumcisions will be performed within the next five years on 20 million African men to help reduce the spread of AIDS, according to a program announced Monday night by the US government and UN and advocated by the Jerusalem-based Operation Abraham project. snip snip

well that is for the untidy people, but they are not exactly converting to judaism, my dear.

 

[Frogster]

How can you pursue righteousness. I thought righteousness is the synonym of salvation?

because you have to read the bible through the eyes of grace. We know the definition, the just shall live by faith, he said it 2 times, and so does hebrews 10, stop turning everything into law, when we know the how of it all...

grace is the only power over sin.

 

[from scratch]

But our walk with G-d does not end at salvation, it actually begins there.

The behavior of a Christian is spoken about here - 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. Gal 5

Notice there is no law against such behavior.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

well that is for the untidy people, but they are not exactly converting to judaism, my dear.

I covered that in this previous post in case ya missed it bro

http://www.christianforums.com/t7613900-2/#post59213722

 

[Lysimachus]

Believe Jesus is the Son of God... JESUS overcame the world!!!

1 John 5:5
Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

John 16:33
"I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I (JESUS) have overcome the world."

Revelation 3:21 - "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."

 

[tzadik]

What are you talking about? Righteousness outside of the law. Amazing! Then the law never served any purpose. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness. Rom 10:4 Why then is the law promoted as a requirement? Inquiring minds wish to know.

The law never served any purpose? Are you saying that the Torah of G-d did not serve any purpose? Is this a biblical fact?
So by throwing around your translation of Roman 10:4, you are saying that Yeshua came to the world, and became the END of the Torah of His Father...
Am I understanding you correctly?
Yeshua is the end/abolishment of the Torah of G-d. astonishing.

 

[Frogster]

I agree. So when you see "Abraham believed and it was imputed unto him for righteousness". Do you see that "impution" as salvation or something else?

walking in the Spirit...walking in faith in the cross. Do you see that the cross is where the old man is now? Rom 6;6.

How much holier can we get? We are riased up with him.

 

[visionary]

well that is for the untidy people, but they are not exactly converting to judaism, my dear.

Never said they were... just another government [USA] project for health [fight against AIDS] in the world

 

[someguy14]

Circumcision threads are fun

Originally Posted by Dan the Man Do you honestly think that whether or not your tally-whacker is trimmed has anything to do with anything???

Could be edifying.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Revelation 3:21 - "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."

I posted that verse in a previous post
not that anyone pays much attention to my posts anyway ehehe

http://www.christianforums.com/t7613900-5/#post59213216