All of you who are disappointed by the statist takeover of the US of A, don't leave the country!!!! I know many of you want to go to Canada, or to Australia, where the president is a man of God. But why pay all that air fare travel, when you can sign a petition to create your OWN red-state nation!
Americans in 15 states issue White House petitions asking permission to secede
There've been multiple petitions before on the issue, although it's always interesting to see how they go down...and for many, if it seems like a rising of a new Confederacy, history tends to repeat itself - from victories to defeats.
IMHO, it's sad to see the mentality behind secession and the damage it leads to, considering that NOT ALL in the states asking for it ever wanted it and those people are forced to go down with others trying to make everyone in their areas like them.....and there is the issue of pettiness when it comes to seperating and yet still relying on the U.S on many levels. Unless the secessionist States form their own currency union, they would be subject to the forces of the U.S. fiscal and monetary policies -- they would not be independent actors. MS and AL would be similar to Greece. Also, when a US Citizen willingly gives up their passport to become a citizen of another country, they lose any claim to prior "entitlements" like Social Security or Medicare/Medicaid due to them...and thus, asking for the states to secede for the sake of one group impacts all in those states not wanting secession since it would make all of the citizens and the States lose their "entitlements" upon successfully seceding.
Moreover, as it stands, the right for states to secede like Texas claims is foolish since it NEVER had that right to begin with....and that's why it didn't successfully secede in the Civil War. The accession provision to permit its break up into five states, which is probably unenforceable against the United States, meaning Congressional consent would be required. However, even if it were at first enforceable, it is so explicitly tied to slavery and the Missouri Compromise that it was more than likely rendered moot by the Civil War and Reconstruction. However, Texas does have a deeper state maritime boundary than other states. If you could persuade Texas to secede, it would enjoy a 12 mile boundary and a 200 mile economic zone....and within a generation or so it would be absorbed into Mexico which would probably do Mexico some good.
Ultimately, if you're gonna become seperate, then by all means you choose to become seperate on your own - revoke your U.S citizenship and choose not to utilize anything in the U.S, from military resources to aid to markets and other things, rather than trying to get many to go with you - but don't try to make decisions that impact others on a large scale. And don't try to seperate once you don't have your way and yet talk of being unifiied/people needing to "work together" when your cannidate gets in office. For that is hypocritical......
Had they gotten their cannidate into office and others talked on how it wasn't right, they would have spoken on people needing to work with the government and deal with things as they are..
But the moment they don't get their way and realize that the status quo they were used to was NEVER what all others preferred/were going through, it is exaggerated into a matter of "The U.S is done for!!!!!"...and that's hysteria. Moreover, language makes a BIG deal in things since anyone can use the language of "Don't I have the RIGHT to seperate from the U.S rather than be enslaved to it for life?!!" and not be caught in understanding that the freedom to secede isn't the same as being justified in doing so.
History showed that the Confederacy was wrong in trying to secede over the issue of slavery - with other slaves seeking to flee from them to states up north and the southern states wanting to expand it/protect their "way of life" based on slavery......and though they could've talked all day long on the right to secede, they were ignoring the elephant in the room with their justifying of slavery as something to defend. The same is present with the people wanting to seperate from the U.S over issues that are not justified when it comes to being frustrated at minorities being dominant in representation/wanting things they don't want....and then making up outright lies against people who were more so represented in this election, be it in claiming "They just all want to get something!!" or "They just want socialism" (despite the fact that people do study/understand economic realities and facts ) or claiming that government has gotten to "big" for them (even when they didn't have a problem with BIG Business influencing government and supported it being big on many differing issues they were for)......and the people in states secedding all seem universally from conservative camps - with other conservatives saying that their actions aren't really the best reflection of conservatism or what it means to be a U.S patriot knowing how to stand together/support the nation in hard times. Some of the desires for secessionism are very much racially based - not surprising seeing the history of the land/how it was developed at the expense of others ( more discussed in #
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For a good article/review on the issue, one can go here to the following:
It's by Chuck Thompson, who authored the work entitled
Better Off Without 'Em: A Northern Manifesto for Southern Secession
