Join the movement

[USincognito]

What "whole different culture"? Nobody's forcing you to eat Mexican or Thai or whatever food.

I stick with American food. Lasagna, Tacos, Lo mein, Bratwurst, etc.

I'd love to see this happen just to watch the states complaining about not having enough border fences being the ones getting fenced out.

Texan is the new Mexican.

I'm not sure what the last bit means even in the context of the first sentence. There are a number of Texas politicos calling for more effective border fences, but both Pres. Bush while governor and Gov. Perry have called for immigration reform including path to citizenship for those who have been here long enough and want to stay.

I'm not from the South, but southerns have separate culture, traditions, and civilization then the North.

Less so now than 20 years ago and a lot less so now than 50 years ago.

Which is why we despise Yankees and would rather they go back where they came from or go to Florida. But we do tolerate them, treat them politely and let them drive and vote and get married and go to school.

Unless you're a hillbilly, I'm not sure you have much room to talk. For people in the deepest of the Deep South, you're basically from lower Ohio.

 

[USincognito]

As a former yankee living among the Southerners in Louisiana and then Georgia I can verify that indeed this is largely how we were treated. "Tolerated". Although some befriended me!

My dad's from Texas and my mom's from Massachusetts, but I grew up military and wound up not having to deal with much of that non-sense during the 26 years of my life I've lived in the South.

I'd have to agree with that assessment. Since there really isn't "yankee food" outside of New England and even then it's best to avoid most of the time.

Pot roast is something that should have left American kitchens along with cast iron stoves and hand operated potato mashers. Disagree with you on the seafood. The bounty of the northern Atlantic cannot be beat.

Mexico wants all the southwest of the united states back.

They lost Texas because of their own stupidity, they don't get us back.

Yeah, they let in too many illegal immigrants and by the time they realized they had to do something, it was too late.

NAFTA?

NAFTA is not a blanket agreement for North America. It applies only to the nations which are signatorees. The new state nations would try to join the treaty, but until they did, none of the free trade aspects of NAFTA would apply to international commerce between them and the Union and vise versa.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

In every one of those examples you're talking about older, hetrogenous nation states cobbled together politically or by conquest dissolving.

Caechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and the USSR all formed in the aftermath of World War I, making their origins far more recent than that of the US. The United Kingdom was formed in 1707, predating the US by only about 80 years.

homogenous state populated by wildly diverse peoples

Anyways, about all this talk about how sucession isn't viable because the states depend on federal money....

There is no such thing as federal money. The federal government's money comes from the states. Or, in recent years, increasingly it is borrowed, today almost half the federal budget is borrowed. That can't be sustained indefinitely. When Washington's funds dry up, what then? The states will have to look out for themselves whether they like it or not, assuming their budgets aren't in a similar crisis (California comes to mind). They already have the resources to duplicate all of the federal governments functions, and nobody will miss the federal bureaucracy. Nobody will want to jump back onto a sinking ship.

This isn't about the last election, this is a trend that has been going on for a long time. You can laugh about it now. Give it another twenty, maybe thirty years, nobody will be.

All the votes in the country won't be able change a thing.

 

[AceHero]

This is silly.

Seriously, the executive branch has no authority to allow a state to secede. SCOTUS in Texas v. White ruled that unilateral secession was unconstitutional. It left open the possibility that a state could secede with the approval of the other states, but there's no Constitutional mechanism to effect this.

And anyway, it's being childish and whiny. You don't like the outcome of one game, so you want to take your ball and go home.

I wonder how many of these petitionists actually voted this year.

lol. When I say my home, I am referring to my state/area of the country. I would encourage other areas to leave as well.

Make up your mind, friend. Either it's bad enough to leave or it isn't. No whole state is dumb enough to go it alone.

Do you think that a blue state that doesn't have absurdly low taxes would be able to survive on its own?

So, let Louisiana secede. They nationalize their petroleum industry, throw out all the US Federal restrictions on petroleum production and refining, start pumping oil, and they sell it to the highest bidder.

Socialism!

Actually, maybe that explains the US political system! Those living in the blue states rightfully feel like they don't get enough from the government, which is why they want more government spending (on them), whereas those living in red states actually see people getting way too much money from the government all around them, which is why they want to cut government spending (and we should, on those states)

Sounds like a decent trade-off. Let the red states fulfill their far-right fantasies...and see the blue states profit.

Louisiana receives something like $1.15 for every $1 they pay into the system.

And of course the next big hurricane that hits NO directly like Katrina will require additional billions of dollars which Louisiana doesn't exactly have on hand. They will be calling the Federal Government immediately for help.

If I were still living in Louisiana I think I'd become friendlier with the Federal gov't. They stand to lose a lot when the weather turns bad.

And tropical diseases.

Maybe they'd get foreign aid. Maybe.