Joe Six-Pack American?

[MachZer0]

But as you have been told repeatedly it states that the "morons" version of nuclear is used but is wrong.

Once again, why can you see a myriad of vowels between the c and the l where none exist?

If you look at muscular, there is a vowel between the c and the l, when you look at nuclear there isn't.

Why would anyone, other than an under-educated moron, pronounce them the same?

I wouldn't have thought it would have been a suprise to anyone that Palin is a moron, once you have had an eyeful of that "gosh darnin'" and winking, and have listened to her inability to do anything other than regurgitate script I would have thought it would have been obvious.

The Kouric interview was the obvious product of deep stupidity.

And as I said, if you look at the pronunciation symbology for muscular and nuclear, the second syllables are identical. Moreover, nobody calls a person who uses axe instead of ask a moron. Interesting, isn't it?

 

[MachZer0]

Yes. This is true.

And you are attempting to pronounce both incorrectly.

Really? And how am I pronouncing them? Please demonstrate that

You clearly do not know what the symbology means, so why are you trying to make an argument using it?

What I know is that muscular and nuclear can rhyme according to the pronunciation symbology in Webster's.

 

[Baggins]

And as I said, if you look at the pronunciation symbology for muscular and nuclear, the second syllables are identical. Moreover, nobody calls a person who uses axe instead of ask a moron. Interesting, isn't it?

I haven't heard of anyone doing that. Pronouncing Nuclear - New cue lar is like pronouncing skeleton - skellington . It is a product of poor education.

Once again could you point out where these vowels that you seem to believe reside between the c and the l in nuclear actually are?

Just because people mis-pronounce words doesn't mean that we should accept it.

Do you think Palin should be taken to one side, shown the word nuclear, be given its derivation from the word nucleus have it pointed out to her that there are no vowels between the c and the l in either word and have the proper pronunciation given to her, or are you happy to have continue sounding like a moron to anyone with a modicum of education?

As someone who is quite left wing I am happy to have continue to sound like a moron. Every time she says newcuelar another educated republican either decides not to vote or to vote for Obama, in my opinion.

In fact I'd run adds solely consisting of her mis-pronouncing the word nuclear, they'd be witty and effective.

The strap line: Do you want someone who can't pronounce a simple 7 letter word correctly running your country.

Once again just because Websters dictionary carries the pronunciation she uses doesn't mean that it should be used:

Though disapproved of by many, pronunciations ending in \\-kyə-lər\\ have been found in widespread use among educated speakers including scientists, lawyers, professors, congressmen, United States cabinet members, and at least two United States presidents and one vice president

These people should be pitied and corrected not indulged shouldn't they?

I also question the use of " educated speakers", anyone with a halfway decent education shouldn't struggle pronouncing such a simple word. Which is why Palin is understandable, she hasn't got a halfway decent education.

 

[Baggins]

What I know is that muscular and nuclear can rhyme according to the pronunciation symbology in Webster's.

Yes, if you are a moron who can't pronounce a simple 7 letter word:

http://www.naturalnews.com/021461.html

Nuclear. Note that there is no "U" between the "C" and the "L." That's an interesting clue to the correct pronunciation, and the more witty among us have figured out that it means the "C" and "L" should be pronounced together, as in the word, "CLEAR." Of course, if you're an idiot, you might pronounce "CLEAR" as "Cue-Ler" in which case your mental capacity is so seriously limited that you only qualify as a registered voter.

Do you pronounce the word CLEAR as Cue - ler Mach?

I bet he does you know, he is never wrong, imagine all those years when we have been pronouncing the word clear as a single syllable.

Now Mach shows us the error of our ways.

" It is going to be a clear ( cue-lar ) night tonight. "

Have you got any other pronunciation gems for us Mach?

 

[MachZer0]

I haven't heard of anyone doing that. Pronouncing Nuclear - New cue lar is like pronouncing skeleton - skellington . It is a product of poor education.

Once again could you point out where these vowels that you seem to believe reside between the c and the l in nuclear actually are?

Yes. Webster's dictionary

 

[Baggins]

This just in from Webster's dictionary:

Webster's standard response to readers inquiring about "nucular":
We do not list the pronunciation of "nuclear" as \'nü-ky&-l&r\ as an "acceptable" alternative. We merely list it as an alternative. It is clearly preceded by the obelus mark \÷\. This mark indicates "a pronunciation variant that occurs in educated speech but that is considered by some to be questionable or unacceptable." A full description of this can be found in the Guide to Pronunciation on our website at http://www.m-w.com/pronguid.htm. We are definitely not advocating that anyone should use the pronunciation \'nü-ky&-l&r\ or that they should abandon the pronunciation \'nü-klE-&r\.

Anything more to add Mach? from hero to zero.

What they are obviously too kind and straight laced to say is : " If you want to be considered a moron, by all means stick as many vowels between that c and l as you like"

 

[MachZer0]

This just in from Webster's dictionary:




Anything more to add Mach? from hero to zero.

Yes. Thanks for the backup

We merely list it as an alternative. It is clearly preceded by the obelus mark \÷\. This mark indicates "a pronunciation variant that occurs in educated speech...

 

[Baggins]

Yes. Thanks for the backup

You seem to have skipped the important first line:

We do not list the pronunciation of "nuclear" as \'nü-ky&-l&r\ as an "acceptable" alternative

How unlike you.

That isn't ambiguous is it?

Let's look at it again:

We do not list the pronunciation of "nuclear" as \'nü-ky&-l&r\ as an "acceptable" alternative

Hmmmm. seems fairly straight forward to me.

But then I am not the one who has just been nailed in yet another argument by the mighty Baggins .

They do not list your pronunciation of nuclear as acceptable Mach. That means that it, <Staff Edit> is unacceptable.
<Staff Edit>

 

[MachZer0]

You seem to have skipped the important first line:



How unlike you.

That isn't ambiguous is it?

Let's look at it again:



Hmmmm. seems fairly straight forward to me.

But then I am not the one who has just been nailed in yet another argument by the mighty Baggins .

Yes, let's look at it again

We merely list it as an alternative. It is clearly preceded by the obelus mark \÷\. This mark indicates "a pronunciation variant that occurs in educated speech

While they don't list it as acceptable, they do list it as an alternative. An alternative, by the way, that occurs in educated speech, not moronic speech as you claim

 

[Braunwyn]

It is not educated speech. It's errors made by perhaps educated people.

 

[Baggins]

Yes, let's look at it againWhile they don't list it as acceptable, they do list it as an alternative. An alternative, by the way, that occurs in educated speech, not moronic speech as you claim

So you are happy with your candidate using unacceptable pronunciations of simple words.

Pronunciations that America's premier dictionary finds unacceptable.

Great, that's all I wanted to ascertain.

What remarkably low standards you set for those who seek high office.

thank goodness the American public seem to be more demanding that you are.

 

[Baggins]

It is not educated speech. It's errors made by perhaps educated people.

I would doubt anyone with a good high school science education could make that error.

 

[MachZer0]

So you are happy with your candidate using unacceptable pronunciations of simple words.

Pronunciations that America's premier dictionary finds unacceptable.

Great, that's all I wanted to ascertain.

What remarkably low standards you set for those who seek high office.

thank goodness the American public seem to be more demanding that you are.

Being of a tolerant persuasion, I don't ridicule people who have a different accent than I or whose pronuciation may vary from mine. As I said earlier, I find it odd that the same group of people who espouse ebonics as an acceptable form of English decry a variance in the pronunciation of one word which Webster's clearly denotes as an alternate pronunciation found in educated speech

 

[Braunwyn]

Being of a tolerant persuasion, I don't ridicule people who have a different accent than I or whose pronuciation may vary from mine. As I said earlier, I find it odd that the same group of people who espouse ebonics as an acceptable form of English decry a variance in the pronunciation of one word which Webster's clearly denotes as an alternate pronunciation found in educated speech

Espouses ebonics? Hooked on phonics is your friend.

 

[`jayne]

So you are happy with your candidate using unacceptable pronunciations of simple words.

Pronunciations that America's premier dictionary finds unacceptable.

Great, that's all I wanted to ascertain.

What remarkably low standards you set for those who seek high office.

thank goodness the American public seem to be more demanding that you are.

Let me axe you a pacific question. Do you have other such standards in pace fo those you wish to see as presdent? Lapel pins and respect for the flag appear to be in the same ballpark as mispronunciation of one word. I just checkin on you.

 

[JustOneWay]

Let me axe you a pacific question. Do you have other such standards in pace fo those you wish to see as presdent? Lapel pins and respect for the flag appear to be in the same ballpark as mispronunciation of one word. I just checkin on you.

I have a question for you. When Obama becomes President, will you respect the office and put your full support behind Obama?

 

[`jayne]

I's have and wills always respect the office, no matter what twit is currently stinkin it up. How's about yous?

 

[Braunwyn]

Lapel pins and respect for the flag appear to be in the same ballpark as mispronunciation of one word.

Yea, I suspect a number of people would confuse shallow presentations of respect for education or academic prowess. It's probably one of the components at the heart of this particular election.

 

[RacismIsBad]

I's have and wills always respect the office, no matter what twit is currently stinkin it up. How's about yous?

What's with the poor grammar?

 

[jamesrwright3]

LOL this thread is funny. Someone slightly mispronounced a word which is really pointless..people from different parts of the country pronounce things slightly differently.

People in my area pronounce an area called "North Versailles"..North Vesrales
People in France called it "Ver Sigh"

As indicated in wikipedia, both pronounciations are correct
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Versailles_Township,_Pennsylvania

However, the Democratic vice presidential candidate doesn't even know who was President during the market crash and doesn't even know when TV was invented..tells crippled people to walk..and yet he is smarter?